for Bill Morgan by David Peet:
There currently is no
the past three years, bTrade has been facilitating a healthy
exchange of opinions in this great debate.
FTP is an established technology that leverages SSL to protect the
the payload is easily achievable for a nested security schema, as is DES,
3DES, AES, PGP, etc.
Disposition Notifications are foreign to FTP servers and would thus present a
formidable barrier to adoption by current S/FTP
there is still the great firewall policy debates relating to
exposing FTP ports to the Internet.
is why Virtual Private Networks were created, to leverage the Internet for
secure business communications without the risk of exposing FTP
of us who have provided EDIINT solutions over the past two or three years have
always understood these "FTP" challenges and have responded in kind to market
demands. To date, the market has demanded Secure FTP, AS1, and
AS3 offering can quickly be released by most of us, but adoption rates will
not be nearly as high as AS1 or AS2, if AS3 gains traction at
AS3 offerings may provide a degree of consternation by those trying to
simplify and consolidate secure Internet communications.
ebXML, the Message, Routing, and Transportation standard is agnostic to SMTP,
HTTP, or FTP communications.
the ebXML protocol was carefully crafted to be neutral of all transport
FTP, SMTP or any other "P" can be used within an ebXML
the way, did you hear about bTrade's AS4?
Vesper [mailto:gvesper <at> cyclonecommerce.com]
Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2002 2:18
To: David Fischer; Jeff
Lightcap; ietf-ediint <at> imc.org
Cc: Dave Bennett
Subject: RE: AS3?....
strongly suggest we take up the issue of demand. Cyclone has been
servicing market demand for this capability for several years in production
hardened environments and would be happy to argue in favor of FTP as a
valid transport for EDIINT.
role of FTP within the ebXML standard could be elevated to achieve the same
desired functionality with the advantage of what ebXML brings to the
way, the absence of FTP as a transport for secure B2B messaging is an obvious
hole. FTP is a valid transport with an enormous amount of existing
infrastructure - it ought to be elevated in the appropriate standards, be
it EDIINT, ebXML, or both.
happy to actively participate in any initiatives in this
Director, Product Management
owner-ietf-ediint <at> mail.imc.org [mailto:owner-ietf-ediint <at> mail.imc.org]On Behalf Of David Fischer
Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2002 12:38
To: Jeff Lightcap;
ietf-ediint <at> imc.org
There is no
proposed AS3 standard. On several occasions, vendor's have requested an
AS3 standard based upon FTP. Thus far, we have not seen enough end-user
demand to proceed with this, but if such demand becomes evident, we
owner-ietf-ediint <at> mail.imc.org [mailto:owner-ietf-ediint <at> mail.imc.org]On Behalf Of Jeff Lightcap
Sent: Thursday, February 28, 2002 12:47
'ietf-ediint <at> imc.org'
Anyone know what is
proposed for AS3. Trailblazer Systems is implementing FTP with S/MIME. They
also mention AS3 on their web site as a proposed standard: http://www.as400ftp.com/latestnews_detail.cfm?number=2
I can't find
anything about this proposed standard anywhere except for the mention on the
page indicated above.
jlightcap <at> cleo.com