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Romascanu, Dan (Dan | 1 May 2005 16:17
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RE: Alarm MIB implementations

I received queries from at least three different organizations that let me know that people are building or
consider building implementations of the Alarm MIB. All of them, as far as I know are agent
implementations. 

Regards,

Dan

> -----Original Message-----
> From: disman-bounces <at> ietf.org 
> [mailto:disman-bounces <at> ietf.org]On Behalf Of Sharon Chisholm
> Sent: 27 April, 2005 11:41 PM
> To: disman <at> ietf.org
> Subject: RE: [Disman] Alarm MIB implementations
> 
> 
> hi
>  
> I know of two potential third party management applications 
> implementations,
> but I am not sure of their current status or if the vendors 
> have made this
> public so I don't want to name them explicitly. Also based on 
> the private
> email questions I get, a lot of people are considering 
> implementations, but
> I'm not sure if they are looking device side or management 
> application.
>  
> Plus, of course the work within my own organization.
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Randy Presuhn | 4 May 2005 05:55
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Fw: MIB Doctor review: publish draft-ietf-disman-remops-mib-v2-06.tx t

Hi -

Forwarded for your information.

Randy

----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Juergen Schoenwaelder" <j.schoenwaelder <at> iu-bremen.de>
> To: "Wijnen, Bert (Bert)" <bwijnen <at> lucent.com>
> Cc: "Juergen Quittek" <quittek <at> ccrle.nec.de>; "Randy Presuhn" <randy_presuhn <at> mindspring.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, May 03, 2005 8:15 AM
> Subject: Re: MIB Doctor review: publish draft-ietf-disman-remops-mib-v2-06.tx t
>

> On Fri, Dec 31, 2004 at 03:25:26PM +0100, Wijnen, Bert (Bert) wrote:
>
> > Juergen, can you do MIB doctor review on this one?
>
> I am sorry that it took that long. Below are my comments. I suggest
> that Juergen Quittek takes a look at the comments I have first and
> then we perhaps do a quick phone call to work out any misunderstandings.
>
> /js
>
>
> MIB review <draft-ietf-disman-remops-mib-v2-06.txt>:
>
> - All three MIB modules compile without problems using smilint 0.4.3
>
> - The abstract has a duplicate "remote" - I suggest to remove the first
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Romascanu, Dan (Dan | 4 May 2005 13:11
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RE: Fw: MIB Doctor review: publishdraft-ietf-disman-remops-mib-v2-06.tx t

I agree with Juergen on this one.Tracepath information, even if read-only, is considered to be privacy
sensitive in many environments. 

To quote from
http://www.ietf.org/internet-drafts/draft-ietf-ops-mib-review-guidelines-04.txt, Section 3.4:

  Each specification that defines one or more MIB modules MUST contain
   a section that discusses security considerations relevant to those
   modules.  This section MUST be patterned after the latest approved
   template (available at http://www.ops.ietf.org/mib-security.html).
   In particular, writeable MIB objects that could be especially
   disruptive if abused MUST be explicitly listed by name and the
   associated security risks MUST be spelled out;  similarly, readable
   MIB objects that contain especially sensitive information or that
   raise significant privacy concerns MUST be explicitly listed by name
   and the reasons for the sensitivity/privacy concerns MUST be
   explained.  

It looks like this is one of the cases where the objects 'MUST be explicitly listed by name and the reasons for
the sensitivity/privacy concerns MUST be explained.'  

Regards,

Dan

> -----Original Message-----
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> [mailto:disman-bounces <at> ietf.org]On Behalf Of Randy Presuhn
> Sent: 04 May, 2005 6:56 AM
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Randy Presuhn | 5 May 2005 02:28
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Re: Fw: MIB Doctor review: publish draft-ietf-disman-remops-mib-v2-06.tx t

Hi -

We've heard from Dan Romascanu agreeing with the comment on the sensitivity
of traceroute logs.  We should have caught that one ourselves.

Does anyone on this mailing list *disagree* with any of Jürgen Schönwälder's
review comments, or have specific proposals for handling any of them?
If not, then I'll just ask the editor (Jürgen Quittek) to make a best-effort
attempt to address the comments, and post an updated i-d.

Randy, disman WG chair
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Juergen Quittek | 5 May 2005 21:56
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Re: Fw: MIB Doctor review: publish draft-ietf-disman-remops-mib-v2-06.tx t

Randy,

I agree with most of Juergen's suggestions.  But he also has some issues that he
wants to discuss.  As he suggested, I will try to have this discussion with him
first on the phone in the next days.  If we cannot solve the issues we will post
them on the list.

Thanks,

    Juergen Q.
-- 
Juergen Quittek        quittek <at> netlab.nec.de       Tel: +49 6221 90511-15
NEC Europe Ltd.,       Network Laboratories        Fax: +49 6221 90511-55
Kurfuersten-Anlage 36, 69115 Heidelberg, Germany   http://www.netlab.nec.de

--On 5/4/2005 5:28 PM -0700 Randy Presuhn wrote:

> Hi -
>
> We've heard from Dan Romascanu agreeing with the comment on the sensitivity
> of traceroute logs.  We should have caught that one ourselves.
>
> Does anyone on this mailing list *disagree* with any of J¸rgen Sch?nw?lder's
> review comments, or have specific proposals for handling any of them?
> If not, then I'll just ask the editor (J¸rgen Quittek) to make a best-effort
> attempt to address the comments, and post an updated i-d.
>
> Randy, disman WG chair
>
>
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Randy Presuhn | 10 May 2005 02:18
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Re: Fw: MIB Doctor review: publishdraft-ietf-disman-remops-mib-v2-06.tx t

Hi -

> From: "Juergen Quittek" <quittek <at> netlab.nec.de>
> To: "Randy Presuhn" <randy_presuhn <at> mindspring.com>; "Disman" <disman <at> ietf.org>
> Sent: Thursday, May 05, 2005 12:56 PM
> Subject: Re: [Disman] Fw: MIB Doctor review: publishdraft-ietf-disman-remops-mib-v2-06.tx t
...
> I agree with most of Juergen's suggestions.  But he also has some issues that he
> wants to discuss.  As he suggested, I will try to have this discussion with him
> first on the phone in the next days.  If we cannot solve the issues we will post
> them on the list.
...

Ok.  Also, please post a brief summary of any agreed changes to the WG
mailing list.  That way, if anyone has a problem with a resolution, they'll
have a chance to speak up before the update appears.

Randy
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Randy Presuhn | 10 May 2005 20:01
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Does disman need to meet in Paris?

Hi -

Would there be any value to having a face-to-face meeting of the
disman working group at the Paris IETF meeting this Summer?
I plan to be there, but need to know whether to request a meeting
slot.

Randy, disman chair
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