Discussion of matters related to the applications area of IETF

headers Lisa Dusseault | 1 May 18:52

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Hi,

Chris & I find that the Applications Area has a light enough schedule  
that we could set aside some meeting slots purely for interoperability  
testing get-togethers.

If anybody is interested in organizing such a get-together in Dublin,  
please let us know or start looking for participants.  We need to know  
as soon as the agenda arrangement begins, so the firm deadline for  
interop scheduling suggestions is May 26, the same deadline as for WG  
meeting scheduling.

Lisa

Hi,

On 2008-5-13, at 19:19, ext Lisa Dusseault wrote:
> Chris & I find that the Applications Area has a light enough schedule
> that we could set aside some meeting slots purely for interoperability
> testing get-togethers.

can you really get any serious testing done during a regular meeting  
slot? The longest is 2.5 hours.

In the past, we've simply asked the secretariat nicely if they  
happened to have a spare room on Saturday, Sunday or Friday that we  
could get for a full day...

Lars

At 9:50 AM -0700 5/13/08, Lars Eggert wrote:
>Hi,
>
>On 2008-5-13, at 19:19, ext Lisa Dusseault wrote:
>> Chris & I find that the Applications Area has a light enough schedule
>> that we could set aside some meeting slots purely for interoperability
>> testing get-togethers.
>
>can you really get any serious testing done during a regular meeting
>slot? The longest is 2.5 hours.
>
>In the past, we've simply asked the secretariat nicely if they
>happened to have a spare room on Saturday, Sunday or Friday that we
>could get for a full day...
>
>Lars
>_____________

Short answer: sure, as a lot of the real work in any interop is done long
before the meeting and in the private interactions that occur  as follow-up
among participants that met at an interop.

You may want to ask the secretariat, though, if you can glom together
multiple slots, so that you can get more than one slot in a row for any
takers.  If the agenda for APPs is really light, that may well not be a problem.

Just my opinion, of course,
				Ted

To agree with Lars as well as Ted:  yes, we were thinking of asking  
the Secretariat for a room all day Wednesday to cover all the slots  
that day and have no other Apps meetings that day.  Wednesday would be  
a day where an interop/meeting attendee could easily attend a Monday  
meeting and the interop, while another attendee could attend a Friday  
meeting and the interop -- hopefully easier for people to plan and  
justify travel.

All this depends on what kind of interop organization we see -- what  
kind of attendance would be expected, how much time needed, what  
regular WG meeting (if any) is most closely related to the interop  
topic(s).

Lisa

On May 13, 2008, at 9:58 AM, Ted Hardie wrote:

> At 9:50 AM -0700 5/13/08, Lars Eggert wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> On 2008-5-13, at 19:19, ext Lisa Dusseault wrote:
>>> Chris & I find that the Applications Area has a light enough  
>>> schedule
>>> that we could set aside some meeting slots purely for  
>>> interoperability
>>> testing get-togethers.
>>
>> can you really get any serious testing done during a regular meeting
>> slot? The longest is 2.5 hours.
>>
>> In the past, we've simply asked the secretariat nicely if they
>> happened to have a spare room on Saturday, Sunday or Friday that we
>> could get for a full day...
>>
>> Lars
>> _____________
>
> Short answer: sure, as a lot of the real work in any interop is done  
> long
> before the meeting and in the private interactions that occur  as  
> follow-up
> among participants that met at an interop.
>
> You may want to ask the secretariat, though, if you can glom together
> multiple slots, so that you can get more than one slot in a row for  
> any
> takers.  If the agenda for APPs is really light, that may well not  
> be a problem.
>
> Just my opinion, of course,
> 				Ted

Not that I have any software to suggest for interop testing, but a 
thought occurs:  since there will be v6 (-only) network available, 
perhaps having some of this focused on application v6 enablement testing?

Leslie.

Lisa Dusseault wrote:
> To agree with Lars as well as Ted:  yes, we were thinking of asking  
> the Secretariat for a room all day Wednesday to cover all the slots  
> that day and have no other Apps meetings that day.  Wednesday would be  
> a day where an interop/meeting attendee could easily attend a Monday  
> meeting and the interop, while another attendee could attend a Friday  
> meeting and the interop -- hopefully easier for people to plan and  
> justify travel.
> 
> All this depends on what kind of interop organization we see -- what  
> kind of attendance would be expected, how much time needed, what  
> regular WG meeting (if any) is most closely related to the interop  
> topic(s).
> 
> Lisa
> 
> On May 13, 2008, at 9:58 AM, Ted Hardie wrote:
> 
>> At 9:50 AM -0700 5/13/08, Lars Eggert wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> On 2008-5-13, at 19:19, ext Lisa Dusseault wrote:
>>>> Chris & I find that the Applications Area has a light enough  
>>>> schedule
>>>> that we could set aside some meeting slots purely for  
>>>> interoperability
>>>> testing get-togethers.
>>> can you really get any serious testing done during a regular meeting
>>> slot? The longest is 2.5 hours.
>>>
>>> In the past, we've simply asked the secretariat nicely if they
>>> happened to have a spare room on Saturday, Sunday or Friday that we
>>> could get for a full day...
>>>
>>> Lars
>>> _____________
>> Short answer: sure, as a lot of the real work in any interop is done  
>> long
>> before the meeting and in the private interactions that occur  as  
>> follow-up
>> among participants that met at an interop.
>>
>> You may want to ask the secretariat, though, if you can glom together
>> multiple slots, so that you can get more than one slot in a row for  
>> any
>> takers.  If the agenda for APPs is really light, that may well not  
>> be a problem.
>>
>> Just my opinion, of course,
>> 				Ted
> 
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I can organize some LDAP and/or SASL (in various apps protocol)  
testing.  I'll ping these communities and get back to you before the  
cut-off.

-- Kurt

On May 13, 2008, at 9:19 AM, Lisa Dusseault wrote:

>
> Hi,
>
> Chris & I find that the Applications Area has a light enough schedule
> that we could set aside some meeting slots purely for interoperability
> testing get-togethers.
>
> If anybody is interested in organizing such a get-together in Dublin,
> please let us know or start looking for participants.  We need to know
> as soon as the agenda arrangement begins, so the firm deadline for
> interop scheduling suggestions is May 26, the same deadline as for WG
> meeting scheduling.
>
> Lisa
> _______________________________________________
> Apps-Discuss mailing list
> Apps-Discuss <at> ietf.org
> https://www.ietf.org/mailman/listinfo/apps-discuss

Leslie Daigle wrote:

>Not that I have any software to suggest for interop testing, but a 
>thought occurs:  since there will be v6 (-only) network available, 
>perhaps having some of this focused on application v6 enablement testing?
>  
>
I think there are several IPv6 capable Lemonade (IMAP) servers, so we 
can try to do that.

>Leslie.
>
>Lisa Dusseault wrote:
>  
>
>>To agree with Lars as well as Ted:  yes, we were thinking of asking  
>>the Secretariat for a room all day Wednesday to cover all the slots  
>>that day and have no other Apps meetings that day.  Wednesday would be  
>>a day where an interop/meeting attendee could easily attend a Monday  
>>meeting and the interop, while another attendee could attend a Friday  
>>meeting and the interop -- hopefully easier for people to plan and  
>>justify travel.
>>
>>All this depends on what kind of interop organization we see -- what  
>>kind of attendance would be expected, how much time needed, what  
>>regular WG meeting (if any) is most closely related to the interop  
>>topic(s).
>>
>>Lisa
>>
>>On May 13, 2008, at 9:58 AM, Ted Hardie wrote:
>>
>>    
>>
>>>At 9:50 AM -0700 5/13/08, Lars Eggert wrote:
>>>      
>>>
>>>>Hi,
>>>>
>>>>On 2008-5-13, at 19:19, ext Lisa Dusseault wrote:
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>>>Chris & I find that the Applications Area has a light enough  
>>>>>schedule
>>>>>that we could set aside some meeting slots purely for  
>>>>>interoperability
>>>>>testing get-togethers.
>>>>>          
>>>>>
>>>>can you really get any serious testing done during a regular meeting
>>>>slot? The longest is 2.5 hours.
>>>>
>>>>In the past, we've simply asked the secretariat nicely if they
>>>>happened to have a spare room on Saturday, Sunday or Friday that we
>>>>could get for a full day...
>>>>
>>>>Lars
>>>>_____________
>>>>        
>>>>
>>>Short answer: sure, as a lot of the real work in any interop is done  
>>>long
>>>before the meeting and in the private interactions that occur  as  
>>>follow-up
>>>among participants that met at an interop.
>>>
>>>You may want to ask the secretariat, though, if you can glom together
>>>multiple slots, so that you can get more than one slot in a row for  
>>>any
>>>takers.  If the agenda for APPs is really light, that may well not  
>>>be a problem.
>>>
>>>Just my opinion, of course,
>>>				Ted
>>>      
>>>
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>>    
>>
>
>  
>

Great idea! 

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Sent: Tue May 13 09:19:44 2008
Subject: Interop slots?

Hi,

Chris & I find that the Applications Area has a light enough schedule  
that we could set aside some meeting slots purely for interoperability  
testing get-togethers.

If anybody is interested in organizing such a get-together in Dublin,  
please let us know or start looking for participants.  We need to know  
as soon as the agenda arrangement begins, so the firm deadline for  
interop scheduling suggestions is May 26, the same deadline as for WG  
meeting scheduling.

Lisa

sounds good, support!

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Lisa Dusseault wrote:
>
> Hi,
>
> Chris & I find that the Applications Area has a light enough schedule 
> that we could set aside some meeting slots purely for interoperability 
> testing get-togethers.
>
> If anybody is interested in organizing such a get-together in Dublin, 
> please let us know or start looking for participants.  We need to know 
> as soon as the agenda arrangement begins, so the firm deadline for 
> interop scheduling suggestions is May 26, the same deadline as for WG 
> meeting scheduling.
>
> Lisa
>
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