mschoessow | 1 Apr 04:24 2005
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Piecepack Design Contest


I think we need to decide what to do about the design contest. It is 
quite evident that the winners of the last contest are not interested 
in being involved in the next one. It's possible I'm wrong about that 
but I'm not willing to wait in silence any longer hoping. 

So, the question is, what happens next? Let's have some posts about 
this. What do people think? One way or another, I'm determined that 
the design competitions are not going to end at this time! 

-Mike

 
Leo M. Lalande | 1 Apr 06:45 2005
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Re: Piecepack Design Contest


How about a graphic design contest?  I think it would be fun to have a
contest for piecepack graphic designs as opposed to yet another game
rule design contest.  Or... perhaps a contest where you must create a
'non-standard' piecepack design (i.e.: a set of themed suits,
different from the original spec suits) and then also create a game
themed to those new suits.

Just my 2 cents. :)

Leo

--- In piecepack@..., "mschoessow" <mikeschoessow <at> c...> wrote:
> 
> I think we need to decide what to do about the design contest. It is 
> quite evident that the winners of the last contest are not interested 
> in being involved in the next one. It's possible I'm wrong about that 
> but I'm not willing to wait in silence any longer hoping. 
> 
> So, the question is, what happens next? Let's have some posts about 
> this. What do people think? One way or another, I'm determined that 
> the design competitions are not going to end at this time! 
> 
> -Mike

 
sshum2003 | 1 Apr 19:01 2005
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Re: Piecepack Design Contest


--- In piecepack@..., "mschoessow" <mikeschoessow <at> c...> 
wrote:
> 
> I think we need to decide what to do about the design contest. It is 
> quite evident that the winners of the last contest are not interested 
> in being involved in the next one. It's possible I'm wrong about that 
> but I'm not willing to wait in silence any longer hoping. 
> 
> So, the question is, what happens next? Let's have some posts about 
> this. What do people think? One way or another, I'm determined that 
> the design competitions are not going to end at this time! 
> 
> -Mike

I thought that they were waiting until after Mesomorph Games contest 
was over, but could not find a post indicating such is the case.

Perhaps we could open the judging up to the "Bests" since there was no 
declared single 1st runner up.  Priority give in order of their scores 
for those that wish to judge.  Perhaps excluding those that have judged 
before, to give those who have not judge a chance first.  If none of 
the bests wish to judge open it up to previous winners/judges and/or 
previous runners up in some fashion. 

 
Electronicwaffle | 1 Apr 23:59 2005
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Going to Boardgame Night on Campus.......


Want to convert all who are there to the ways of the piecepack.  What 
good 2 or more player rulesets with one piecepack should I print?

 
Leo M. Lalande | 2 Apr 02:38 2005
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Re: Going to Boardgame Night on Campus.......


Well, I don't think I'd recommend it as a first choice for introducing
them to piecepack, but my 'Barriers' game still needs some
playtesting.  The rules are simple, and requires only one piecepack
for two or four players. :)  The rules document is in the Rulesets in
Progress files section as Blockade; since it's still the first draft
of the rules. :)

Leo M. Lalande

--- In piecepack@..., "Electronicwaffle"
<electronicwaffle <at> y...> wrote:
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> Want to convert all who are there to the ways of the piecepack.  What 
> good 2 or more player rulesets with one piecepack should I print?

 
Mike Schoessow | 2 Apr 03:56 2005
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Re: Re: Piecepack Design Contest


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  From: sshum2003 
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  Subject: [piecepack] Re: Piecepack Design Contest

  --- In piecepack@..., "mschoessow" <mikeschoessow <at> c...> 
  wrote:
  >> 
  >> I think we need to decide what to do about the design contest. It is 
  >> quite evident that the winners of the last contest are not interested 
  >> in being involved in the next one. It's possible I'm wrong about that 
  >> but I'm not willing to wait in silence any longer hoping. 
  >> 
  >> So, the question is, what happens next? Let's have some posts about 
  >> this. What do people think? One way or another, I'm determined that 
  >> the design competitions are not going to end at this time! 
  >> 
  >> -Mike

  >I thought that they were waiting until after Mesomorph Games contest 
  >was over, but could not find a post indicating such is the case.

  I suppose that's possible but I believe it is just speculation at this point. A couple months ago I asked
Karol what was going on with the contests. She told me that following the previous contest the winners had
indicated that they would be willing to define and judge the next one (and I seem to recall that being posted
here as well) and she suggested I post my query to the group. I did that, specifically asking the winners to
respond. That was quite a while ago. Since they have been silent, I assume they have likely changed their
mind and do not plan to be involved in the next contest. I have no problem with the winner(s) of a contest not
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Chris Sullivan | 2 Apr 01:27 2005
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Old wounds, apparently...


Hey all.  I'm a relative newcomer to Piecepack.. actually, a friend
got me hooked on the idea after seeing games I've created using a whiteboard and generic
pawns.  I'd love to start "playing along", so to speak, but I made the mistake of ordering 
my piecepack set from Icepack Games.

This public message is an appeal to Toren to contact me regarding my
order I placed a month ago, and to serve as a partial warning to others about thinking
twice before ordering from Icepack.  I've recieved exactly ONE message from Toren,
telling me that pieces for my set were "on backorder" and he should have them in 7-10
days.  That was 30 days ago.  Repeated attempts to contact him have resulted in no
response.

One bad vendor can't necessarily hold the whole community in a bad
light, but as a newcomer it does leave a bad taste in my mouth.  I have gone ahead
and ordered one of the smaller sets from Mesomorph, hoping they at least communicate
with me.  If by some miracle the Icepack set shows up... hey, the more the merrier.

That's the frustration (pardon my venting): if Toren just communicated with me, told me 
what was going on, I'd cut him some slack.  I can appreciate that this is a "small venture", 
probably being run by him in spare time.   However, he's not even responding to my E-
mails.  I ordered a $200 game kit from him: I think I deserve an E-Mail once and a while 
(at least replies to my messages).

Anyway, sorry about the rant.  In earlier archives, it was mentioned that perhaps Icepack 
should be removed from the vendor list on the Piecepack website. Since it would appear 
that he's up to the same shennanigans as a year or so ago the last time this was brought 
up, perhaps it's time to pull it.  It looks bad for Mesomorph and the whole piecepack 
community to have a bad vendor on the list of sources.

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Debnmrn1 | 2 Apr 05:57 2005
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Re: Old wounds, apparently...


When I was a newcomer, I also made the mistake of ordering from  Toren.  It 
took about a month and a half to get the set with multiple  emails to him, and 
finally a public one like you just wrote complaining to the  group.  After the 
public email, I had my set within a week.  There was  supposed to be a 
special "extra" included so that he could make up for not  shipping it more 
promptly, however, I never received that.  Also, when I  wrote my public complaint, 
there were several others who expressed their  frustration over the same problem 
with their orders.  

You are not alone.

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Leo M. Lalande | 2 Apr 18:53 2005
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Re: Piecepack Design Contest


--- In piecepack@..., "Mike Schoessow"
<mikeschoessow <at> c...> wrote:

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Regarding Leo's ideas (separate post) for a piecepack graphics design
contest or one requiring games based on re-themed tiles, I don't have
a problem with this if someone wants to organize it.
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Being a newbie in the piecepack community, I'm not very familiar with
what is involved in organizing a design contest, but I might be
willing to give it a go if it's something I can handle. 

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There are many fascinating possibilities for suits, some of which have
been posted here over the years, and if suits are customized
for a particular game, it opens up opportunities for greater theme
attachment in non-abstract games, which is good.
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Certainly, theme attachement is a definite benefit for some games; no
argument there.  Opening up the basic spec to any suit, IMHO, is
likely to provide a sense of enticement to potential piecepackers
whose attention might not be caught by the Sun/Moon/Crown/Arms suits,
but might be interested in a piecepack with suits themed to a hobby or
pastime they enjoy.

The idea of individual stacks with customized/personalized suits,
which has been discussed before, is still valid; and helps open up the
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Benedict | 2 Apr 19:18 2005
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Re: Going to Boardgame Night on Campus.......


--- In piecepack@..., "Electronicwaffle"
<electronicwaffle <at> y...> 
wrote:
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> Want to convert all who are there to the ways of the piecepack.  What 
> good 2 or more player rulesets with one piecepack should I print?

Hi, Eric

Games that would be good for 2 players:

Powerlines (easy rules, tough strategy, short playing time)

The In Crowd (competition winner #6, easy to learn)

Games that scale for 2 players and up:

Chariots  (2-4)
Hanging Gardens (2-4) 
Sailboat Regatta (2-10)
Sarcophagus (2-4)

Games for 4 players:

New City (contest winner #3)

Hopefully you'll get some converts!
Phillip

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