DIS: Re: BUS: No messages all day creeps me out

On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 11:10 PM, Geoffrey Spear <geoffspear <at> gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 10:05 PM,  <comexk <at> gmail.com> wrote:
>> For each active player, I intend, with support and with notice, to make em inactive.
>
> CoE: comex can not make players inactive with support and with notice.

Not a valid CoE.  I probably can't but I have a dumb argument for why
I can that I will post when I'm less tired.

DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Leet Leadership

On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 8:09 AM, Keba <agora <at> kebay.org> wrote:
> Proposal "Leet Leadership" (AI=1, II=1, distributable via fee)
> {{{
> Create a new Rule with power=1 entitled "Leet Leadership":
>
>        When an interested proposal consisting of exact 1337 words
>        (excluding information like name, or adoption/interest index) is
>        enacted, its proposer CAN in a timely fashion award emself a
>        Leadership Token.
> }}}

That should be "exactly 1337".

I suggest adding a clause like this: "If there is ambiguity about the
number of words in a proposal (for example, if there are hyphenated
words), it SHOULD be interpreted as containing exactly 1337 words, if
possible." Thus, people don't have to avoid ambiguous things like
"bilge-pump" in their proposals; they can just include them and it
will be good enough.

—Suggester Tanner L. Swett

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Leet Leadership

Warrigal wrote:
> That should be "exactly 1337".
> 
> I suggest adding a clause like this: "If there is ambiguity about the
> number of words in a proposal (for example, if there are hyphenated
> words), it SHOULD be interpreted as containing exactly 1337 words, if
> possible." Thus, people don't have to avoid ambiguous things like
> "bilge-pump" in their proposals; they can just include them and it
> will be good enough.

Or we define a word as everything between two whitespaces except
whitespecaes.

Feel free to propose your fix ;)

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Keba

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: No messages all day creeps me out

On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 11:35 PM, omd <c.ome.xk <at> gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 11:10 PM, Geoffrey Spear <geoffspear <at> gmail.com> wrote:
>> On Tue, Aug 31, 2010 at 10:05 PM,  <comexk <at> gmail.com> wrote:
>>> For each active player, I intend, with support and with notice, to make em inactive.
>>
>> CoE: comex can not make players inactive with support and with notice.
>
> Not a valid CoE.  I probably can't but I have a dumb argument for why
> I can that I will post when I'm less tired.

Counterargument: "If X then Y" does not imply "If Y then X".

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 6822 - 6829

Warrigal wrote:
> > 6824 G 1 3.5 Keba                Rights are important
> AGAINST. Setting a rule's power greater than 3 is dangerous, as it
> ends up taking precedence over rules that are supposed to be
> omnipotent.

Shouldn't rights take precedence over *all* other rules?

> > 6825 G 1 1.5 Keba                We don't need them
> AGAINST. Yes, we do need them; the Fearmongor uses one of them.

E does? E proposed to repeal R1950, amend R208 and create a new rule?

Well, why are the Fearmongor Proposals not included in this proposal
batch?

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Keba

DIS: The FSCN

Sgeo and I have created an informal alliance, which we're calling the
FSCN. The goal of the FSCN is to bring its own members a
disproportionate amount of power within Agora, and keep it. We shall
accomplish this by promoting proposals giving power to the elite, and
allowing players to accumulate power that cannot easily be taken from
them. We're looking for up to three other people to join. Who's
interested?

—Co-Founder Tanner L. Swett

Re: DIS: The FSCN

On 1 September 2010 15:08, Warrigal <ihope127+w <at> gmail.com> wrote:
> Sgeo and I have created an informal alliance, which we're calling the
> FSCN. The goal of the FSCN is to bring its own members a
> disproportionate amount of power within Agora, and keep it. We shall
> accomplish this by promoting proposals giving power to the elite, and
> allowing players to accumulate power that cannot easily be taken from
> them. We're looking for up to three other people to join. Who's
> interested?
>
> —Co-Founder Tanner L. Swett
>
I am, though I'm not sure of what I have to offer the FSCN.

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-Tiger

Re: DIS: The FSCN

Warrigal wrote:
> Sgeo and I have created an informal alliance, which we're calling the
> FSCN. The goal of the FSCN is to bring its own members a
> disproportionate amount of power within Agora, and keep it. We shall
> accomplish this by promoting proposals giving power to the elite, and
> allowing players to accumulate power that cannot easily be taken from
> them. We're looking for up to three other people to join. Who's
> interested?
> 
> —Co-Founder Tanner L. Swett

I would like to join, as I like team play.

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Keba

Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: Leet Leadership

On Wed, Sep 1, 2010 at 8:23 AM, Keba <agora <at> kebay.org> wrote:
> Warrigal wrote:
>> I suggest adding a clause like this: "If there is ambiguity about the
>> number of words in a proposal (for example, if there are hyphenated
>> words), it SHOULD be interpreted as containing exactly 1337 words, if
>> possible." Thus, people don't have to avoid ambiguous things like
>> "bilge-pump" in their proposals; they can just include them and it
>> will be good enough.
>
> Or we define a word as everything between two whitespaces except
> whitespecaes.

If w⁠e did th⁠at, th⁠is sen⁠tenc⁠e w⁠ould be twe⁠nty wo⁠rds lo⁠ng.

—Unicoder Tanner L. Swett

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [CotC] CFJ 2842 assigned to Tanner L. Swett