Kerim Aydin | 4 Jul 01:01 2015

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Re: OFF: [Tailor] Ribbons

On Thu, 2 Jul 2015, Sean Hunt wrote:
> On Thu, Jul 2, 2015 at 11:15 AM, Kerim Aydin <kerim <at>> wrote:
>       A more constructive comment is:  I think the balance is off here a bit.
>       The timescale between "bad Tailor" (a Tailor who doesn't hand out awards)
>       and election correction seems a bit off to me, and as it is there's no
>       incentive at all for the Tailor to be "good".
> Not directly, but in the broader political game, perhaps. Suppose that a player 
> runs for Tailor on a campaign promising ribbons for everyone
> who votes for them, and in that order.

I'd completely forgotten the "campaign pledges" dynamic.  I'm on board.  -G.

Gaelan Steele | 3 Jul 02:15 2015

DIS: Re: agora-business Digest, Vol 26, Issue 1

Does objecting to something consent-based do anything?
On Jul 2, 2015, at 9:28 AM, agora-business-request <at> wrote:

On Tue, 2015-06-30 at 17:15 -0400, Sean Hunt wrote:
On Tue, Jun 30, 2015 at 5:00 PM, Luis Ressel <aranea <at>> wrote:

I intend to award myself the Patent Title Champion with 2 Agoran

I object.

I also object (in favour of Unchampion, and on the general principle
that typos in scam attempts matter; this wasn't technically a scam but
it's the same sort of thing).

Sean Hunt | 2 Jul 20:52 2015

DIS: Re: BUS: Retraction

On Thu, Jul 2, 2015 at 2:49 PM, Gaelan Steele <gbs <at>> wrote:
> I retract proposal 7756, Into the 21st Century.
> Did that work?

No. A proposal cannot be withdrawn once distributed. It's in the hands
of Agora now.


Gaelan Steele | 2 Jul 20:19 2015

DIS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposal 7756

I also removed the plain-text requirement. This means that HTML table tags work.

P.S. Whoever came up with the idea to have Reply-To set to agora-discussion, you are a genius.
> On Jul 2, 2015, at 6:04 AM, Alex Smith <ais523 <at>> wrote:
> On Tue, 2015-06-30 at 22:50 +0200, Luis Ressel wrote:
>> 7756+  Gaelan     1.0  Into the 21st century
> I vote AGAINST on proposal 7756. (The problem is that some browser-based
> email clients / email archive sites use proportional fonts, and some use
> fixed-width fonts. Given that these have different metrics, and that
> proportional fonts can have different metrics from each other too, this
> is basically equivalent to outlawing tabular data altogether.)
> -- 
> ais523

Alex Smith | 2 Jul 15:02 2015

DIS: Re: BUS: Free Magenta

On Tue, 2015-06-30 at 13:55 -0700, Gaelan Steele wrote:
> If another person begins to qualify for a Magenta ribbon after the
> sending of this message, I also give them a Magenta ribbon as long as
> this would not directly result in eir victory.

This half doesn't work; you can't schedule future actions in Agora
without an actual message being sent at the time of the action.
(Sometimes there's a workaround based on causing parts of other people's
messages to be sent by you, but I don't think that's possible under the
current ruleset, and even when it is legal, it usually needs the other
person's consent.)



Kerim Aydin | 1 Jul 00:32 2015

DIS: Re: OFF: [Tailor] Ribbons

On Tue, 30 Jun 2015, Luis Ressel wrote:
> I award myself a Gray Ribbon.

You know, renaming this game "Tailor is kingmaker, don't bother" really
takes the interest out of this for me.

Brian Greer | 30 Jun 23:53 2015

DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposal 7756


Luis Ressel | 30 Jun 23:21 2015

DIS: Re: BUS: [Herald] Championship

On Tue, 30 Jun 2015 17:15:23 -0400
Sean Hunt <scshunt <at>> wrote:

> On Tue, Jun 30, 2015 at 5:00 PM, Luis Ressel <aranea <at>> wrote:
> > I intend to award myself the Patent Title Champion with 2 Agoran
> > Consent.
> I object.
> -scshunt

May I ask why? Would you prefer "Unchampion", or do you think I don't
deserve a Patent Title at all? IIRC, last time you expressed preference
for "Champion" (but didn't actually vote for it, presumably by


Luis Ressel | 30 Jun 21:19 2015

Re: BUS: Re: DIS: Birthday

On Mon, 29 Jun 2015 23:09:55 -0400
Tanner Swett <tannerswett <at>> wrote:

> I award Charles Walker a Magenta Ribbon. (Can I do that? E doesn't
> already have one, does e?)
> —the Warrigal

Yes, it worked, and no, he didn't have one before. Someone who
acknowledged the occasion now qualifies for a Magenta Ribbon for the
next seven days, and during that period, anyone can award it to them.


Ørjan Johansen | 30 Jun 20:44 2015

DIS: Re: BUS: PROPOSAL: Into the 21st century

On Mon, 29 Jun 2015, Gaelan Steele wrote:

> I think it’s time we allow HTML reports. I submit this proposal:

Argh, please don't.  Since I access my old NVG account only through ssh, I 
use a terminal-based mail reader (alpine), and although it tries to 
display HTML, it does not treat all HTML tags well - some formatting is 
simply ignored.  For messages sent in both formats, I often have to switch 
to the plain text version to make out what's quoted and what's not.

Kerim Aydin | 30 Jun 10:24 2015

DIS: Re: BUS: I express my intent to become a judge. EOM

On Mon, 29 Jun 2015, Gaelan Steele wrote:
> I also express my realization that this message body is useless.

Your subject line has been noted in the records of the Court.
(strictly speaking, your "interest in judging" as per last
paragraph of R991 has been noted by the assigning official).

I use an additional criteria of "interested players" as those
paying attention enough to vote (or announce any minimal 
activity really) in the most recent few weeks.