Jonathan Rouillard | 23 Apr 22:04 2014
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DIS: Re: BUS: I register

On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 3:34 PM, x1122334455 <x1122334455 <at> writing.com> wrote:
> I register

Well, it looks like hazing isn't a crime anymore so... I CFJ on
x1122334455, putting forth tradition as my main argument.

Also: Welcome! =D

~ Roujo

omd | 23 Apr 21:50 2014
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DIS: Re: BUS: I register

On Wed, Apr 23, 2014 at 3:34 PM, x1122334455 <x1122334455 <at> writing.com> wrote:
> I register

Welcome!

omd | 22 Apr 21:35 2014
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DIS: Re: OFF: CFJ 3405 assigned to G. (was: Re: BUS: pointless points)

On Tue, Apr 22, 2014 at 11:56 AM, Kerim Aydin <kerim <at> u.washington.edu> wrote:
> I deputize for the Arbitor to assign the below case CFJ 3405 and
> assign the case to myself (G.).

You can't, as the "time limit by which the rules require the action to
be performed" has not expired yet.

Pavitra | 22 Apr 06:43 2014
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DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 7632-7640

On 04/21/2014 12:26 PM, Kerim Aydin wrote:
> AGAINST.  Under current rule allowing vacancy grabbing, makes for
> trivial wins with a race.

Worse, it's possible to win arbitrarily many times in the same message.

omd | 21 Apr 22:50 2014
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Re: DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 7632-7640

On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 4:23 PM, Sean Hunt <scshunt <at> csclub.uwaterloo.ca> wrote:
> Proposal: Relative Months (AI=2)

AGAINST.  Just say 30 days.

Sean Hunt | 21 Apr 20:25 2014
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DIS: Re: BUS: Re: OFF: [Promotor] Distribution of Proposals 7632-7640

On Mon, Apr 21, 2014 at 1:26 PM, Kerim Aydin <kerim <at> u.washington.edu> wrote:



I vote:

> Num   Author     AI  Title
> 7632  scshunt     3  All Activity is Good Activity
AGAINST.
Bug:  If someone registers for the first time in April, can I
deregister them instantly because they didn't post something in
March?  In general, "in the past month" is ambiguous still, right?
(in terms of Agoran month versus time period).

I'd support 60 days With Notice, making it clear that a person
had to be a player for that time.  This gives the player in question
4 days to announce something and stop the process (or if it's a
scam, gives time to fix).  Safer than w/support.

I don't think there's precedent for this interpretation here, normally if we say "the last week" or "the last 7 days" or such, we go by real time, not "the previous Agoran week" or "the previous 7 Agoran days". 

> 7633  scshunt     2  Yes, Prime Minister
PRESENT.  Can you explain the purpose of both offices?  Right now
there's not much point in having both.

One is a figurehead which hardly does anything but is imposed, and the other is an elected office with real power. This seems right to me.

> 7636  omd         2  Win fix
FOR the fix, but the requirement to name all the other players (and
have the win invalidated if you're wrong) seems unappealing.

Is there a better approach? 

> 7639  omd         3  'Cause I really really really really hate
FOR.  I have ideas, but this is a good base.

Agreed. 

> 7640  omd         1  Calvinball
AGAINST.  Under current rule allowing vacancy grabbing, makes for
trivial wins with a race.

-G.

I only voted FOR to get other people to actually vote. I might change it later.

-scshunt
Fool | 19 Apr 14:02 2014
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DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: 'Cause I really really really really hate

On Thu, 2014-04-17 at 13:29 -0400, omd wrote:
> Proposal: 'Cause I really really really really hate (AI=3)
> 
> Create a new Power-1 Rule, titled "Cards":
[...]
> When a Green Card is issued, the Referee gains two points, and the target player is
> ENCOURAGED to travel to the United States.

:-)

Failing that, to endure watching the 90's romantic comedy of the same
name. 

-Dan

Sean Hunt | 17 Apr 20:11 2014
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DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: 'Cause I really really really really hate

On Thu, Apr 17, 2014 at 1:29 PM, omd <c.ome.xk <at> gmail.com> wrote:
      - Yellow Card, intended for less serious or justifiable
        infractions.  When a person who has received a Yellow Card in
        the current week receives points, e only earns half as many as
        e otherwise would, rounded up.

This means the effectiveness of this punishment depends heavily on when this is awarded relative to proposal resolution in a given week; not sure if that's by design or a flaw.
 
Amend Rule 2421 (Points Awards) by replacing "beginning of each Agoran
week" with "end of each Agoran week" [so it can be affected by Yellow
Cards].

By my time model for Agora, these are equivalent. I'd be sad if you broke it :(

Sean
Kerim Aydin | 17 Apr 19:53 2014

DIS: Re: BUS: Proposal: 'Cause I really really really really hate


On Thu, 17 Apr 2014, omd wrote:
>       - Yellow Card, intended for less serious or justifiable
>         infractions.  When a person who has received a Yellow Card in
>         the current week receives points, e only earns half as many as
>         e otherwise would, rounded up.

This seems a bit open to abuse and seems cheap (compare Yellow Cards 
awarded on Monday versus Sunday).  I'm wondering about a buy-off plan:
1.  Yellow card is half points indefinitely, or at least 14 days.
2.  You can get rid of a Yellow card by destroying X points;
3.  If you get a Yellow card while you have another one, it's a Red card.

Also, "scorekeepor" is similar to referee concept... is it too much
work for an office to combine the two (I'd go with the referee name)?
Of course, without a scorekeepor currently, it's hard to know where
we are on this....

-G.

Kerim Aydin | 15 Apr 01:20 2014

DIS: Re: BUS: pointless points


On Sun, 13 Apr 2014, omd wrote:
> I hereby announce that scshunt has the highest score and has won Agora.
> 
> AFAIK, the first part is true, as scshunt is currently ahead on
> points, with 2 proposal points plus 20 office points.
> 
> The second part is also true; according to the Herald's report,
> scshunt has won 13 times as of February, more often than any other
> person.
> 
> Therefore, the announcement is true, so per Rule 2419, scshunt now
> wins the game again.
> 
> CFJ 2450 may or may not prove me wrong about this.

Nice find.

I think the difference (as far as I can tell) is that CFJ 2450 involved
a MAY (so it turned out to be illegal but possible to make the announcement) 
while R2419 uses a 'can', albeit an uncapitalized one, (implying that
it is impossible to make such an announcement that triggers the effect).
Could be wrong though.

Sean Hunt | 14 Apr 05:10 2014
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DIS: Re: OFF: [Assessor] Voting Results for Proposal 7631

On Sun, Apr 13, 2014 at 11:08 PM, Sean Hunt <scshunt <at> csclub.uwaterloo.ca> wrote:
*7631   Nichdel     2  Missing Vote

CoE: scshunt was the author.  This does not affect the resolution.

-scshunt

Gmane