FreeCiv Internationalization

Marko Lindqvist | 1 Apr 2012 01:23

Re: [Freeciv-Dev] Freeciv 2.3.2 released

On 31 March 2012 19:32, Jacob Nevins
<0jacobnk.gna@...> wrote:
> I wrote:
>> Freeciv 2.3.2 is now available for download.
>
> ...so S2_3 strings are unfrozen. Final translation stats below.
> Thanks all.

 I hope I'm not ruining anybody's celebrations by already pushing
toward next goal. 

 Most likely next release-kind of event will be 2.4.0-beta1. It's up
to you to decide if you want to work on your S2_4 translation already,
or do you want to concentrate on S2_3 only at the moment.  (I'm sure
there will be another real S2_3 release before final 2.4.0 is out)
Several translations have been improved in S2_3, but not in S2_4,
since S2_3 was merged to trunk in October. It would make sense for
some of this to make a new merge from S2_3 to S2_4 before starting
active S2_4 translation work - why to translate again in S2_4 what was
already translated in S2_3.
 Let me know if you want me to do merge from S2_3 to S2_4, or any
other merge for that matter, for your translation (mention which .po
file it is)

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Michael Bauer | 1 Apr 2012 11:16

Re: [Freeciv-Dev] Freeciv 2.3.2 released


01/04/2012 00:23, sgrìobh Marko Lindqvist:
> I hope I'm not ruining anybody's celebrations by already pushing
> toward next goal. 
And I had already ordered the bouncy castle :(
> Let me know if you want me to do merge from S2_3 to S2_4, or any
> other merge for that matter, for your translation (mention which .po
> file it is)
I'm not in a hurry but usually short of time, if that makes sense. So I 
guess ultimately whatever option will require the least amount of 
translation and re-translation for gd?

Thanks very much,

Michael

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Hubert Kowalewski | 1 Apr 2012 14:34

Re: [Freeciv-Dev] Freeciv 2.3.2 released

On 1 April 2012 11:16, Michael Bauer <fios-IyHVIEwbpz6b9/CCa1Sigw@public.gmane.org> wrote:

01/04/2012 00:23, sgrìobh Marko Lindqvist:

I hope I'm not ruining anybody's celebrations by already pushing
toward next goal.

And I had already ordered the bouncy castle :(

Your release party sounds like fun, so I'm coming for the next one :D

Let me know if you want me to do merge from S2_3 to S2_4, or any
other merge for that matter, for your translation (mention which .po
file it is)

As for the Polish locale, I keep tampering with the translations from time to time between releases, so all I need is POTs from S2_3 and S2_4 (and even TRUNK if it's not too much of a problem) to update my files from time to time. I'm comfortable with merging and keeping locales for separate branches in sync myself.

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Marko Lindqvist | 1 Apr 2012 23:33

Re: [Freeciv-Dev] Freeciv 2.3.2 released

On 1 April 2012 12:16, Michael Bauer <fios <at> akerbeltz.org> wrote:
>
> 01/04/2012 00:23, sgrìobh Marko Lindqvist:
>
>> I hope I'm not ruining anybody's celebrations by already pushing
>> toward next goal. 
>
> And I had already ordered the bouncy castle :(

 Oh, we quickly need new reason to party then. I'm afraid we cannot
release 2.4.0-beta1 in next couple of days. So I'll just make new
snapshot build. Will that suffice?

>> Let me know if you want me to do merge from S2_3 to S2_4, or any
>> other merge for that matter, for your translation (mention which .po
>> file it is)
>
> I'm not in a hurry but usually short of time, if that makes sense. So I
> guess ultimately whatever option will require the least amount of
> translation and re-translation for gd?

 Well, I think we should do S2_3 to S2_4 merge just before you start
actively translating S2_4. Doing it earlier will miss any translations
you do to S2_3 after it.
 So:
 1) Do you want to make gd.po translation for 2.4.0-beta1, or do you
translate official, final, versions only?
 2) Do you plan to work on S2_3 translation anytime soon? (You are at
100% currently, so this would mean improving existing strings rather
than translating new ones)

 Or maybe, since many bugfixes go to both S2_3 and S2_4, you'd like to
translate S2_3 (which itself would not be in string freeze, but
contain same bugfixes as S2_4) just a bit before 2.4.0-beta1, then
merge everything from S2_3 to S2_4, and translate remaining stuff in
S2_4.

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Michael Bauer | 1 Apr 2012 23:39

Re: [Freeciv-Dev] Freeciv 2.3.2 released


01/04/2012 22:33, sgrìobh Marko Lindqvist:
>   Well, I think we should do S2_3 to S2_4 merge just before you start
> actively translating S2_4. Doing it earlier will miss any translations
> you do to S2_3 after it.
>   So:
>   1) Do you want to make gd.po translation for 2.4.0-beta1, or do you
> translate official, final, versions only?
>   2) Do you plan to work on S2_3 translation anytime soon? (You are at
> 100% currently, so this would mean improving existing strings rather
> than translating new ones)
Errrr... I'm not doing much improvement work right now, I haven't 
spotted a lot that needs changing apart from some linguistic stuff that 
can't be fixed due to the code.

I don't actually know what I normally work on tbh, normally I just watch 
out for Jacob's emails telling people they're x% behind, then I go and 
fix it :) Sorry I can't be more precise, I don't have the same handle on 
what all these versions do and don't do.

Michael

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Marko Lindqvist | 2 Apr 2012 00:15

Re: [Freeciv-Dev] Freeciv 2.3.2 released

On 2 April 2012 00:39, Michael Bauer <fios@...> wrote:
>
> I don't actually know what I normally work on tbh, normally I just watch out
> for Jacob's emails telling people they're x% behind, then I go and fix it :)
> Sorry I can't be more precise, I don't have the same handle on what all
> these versions do and don't do.

 This was actually rather important piece of information. Cleared my
head to not to take too pedantic approach to talk minute details
forever. I think I'll just merge any translation that has not been
touched in S2_4, but has been touched in S2_3, since last merge. This
can have any (minor) bad side-effects in rare corner-cases only. Most
of the time it's just big improvement. We can always make another
merge later if this time is not optimal for some translation.

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Michael Bauer | 2 Apr 2012 12:05

Re: [Freeciv-Dev] Freeciv 2.3.2 released

Thanks for the translation Jordi! I think... ;)

01/04/2012 23:15, sgrìobh Marko Lindqvist:
>   This was actually rather important piece of information. Cleared my
> head to not to take too pedantic approach to talk minute details
> forever. I think I'll just merge any translation that has not been
> touched in S2_4, but has been touched in S2_3, since last merge. This
> can have any (minor) bad side-effects in rare corner-cases only. Most
> of the time it's just big improvement. We can always make another
> merge later if this time is not optimal for some translation.
You're welcome :) I'm sure what you proposed will be fine.

Cheers

Michael

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Marko Lindqvist | 6 Apr 2012 00:31

Re: [Freeciv-Dev] Freeciv 2.3.2 released

On 2 April 2012 01:15, Marko Lindqvist <cazfi74@...> wrote:
>
>  I think I'll just merge any translation that has not been
> touched in S2_4, but has been touched in S2_3, since last merge. This
> can have any (minor) bad side-effects in rare corner-cases only. Most
> of the time it's just big improvement. We can always make another
> merge later if this time is not optimal for some translation.

 I just did that. Translations that fit these requirements (updated in
S2_3 but not in S2_4) and were thus merged: fi, fr, gd, and ja. Also
pl would have fit the requirements, but I didn't touch that as Hubert
said he will do it himself as needed.

 Updated po-files available from http://www.cazfi.net/freeciv/translations/S2_4/

ca: 6915 translated messages.
pl: 6761 translated messages, 126 fuzzy translations, 28 untranslated messages.
es: 6331 translated messages, 419 fuzzy translations, 165 untranslated messages.
gd: 6190 translated messages, 514 fuzzy translations, 211 untranslated messages.
fr: 6151 translated messages, 466 fuzzy translations, 298 untranslated messages.
ja: 6147 translated messages, 450 fuzzy translations, 318 untranslated messages.
fi: 6058 translated messages, 465 fuzzy translations, 392 untranslated messages.
da: 5810 translated messages, 670 fuzzy translations, 435 untranslated messages.
uk: 5008 translated messages, 969 fuzzy translations, 938 untranslated messages.
it: 4511 translated messages, 1542 fuzzy translations, 862
untranslated messages.
pt_BR: 4271 translated messages, 1786 fuzzy translations, 858
untranslated messages.
ru: 4209 translated messages, 1746 fuzzy translations, 960
untranslated messages.
sv: 3649 translated messages, 1812 fuzzy translations, 1454
untranslated messages.
ga: 3410 translated messages, 373 fuzzy translations, 3132
untranslated messages.
de: 3262 translated messages, 2298 fuzzy translations, 1355
untranslated messages.
tr: 2901 translated messages, 2335 fuzzy translations, 1679
untranslated messages.
et: 2874 translated messages, 2446 fuzzy translations, 1595
untranslated messages.
cs: 2846 translated messages, 2554 fuzzy translations, 1515
untranslated messages.
nl: 2798 translated messages, 2642 fuzzy translations, 1475
untranslated messages.
eo: 2758 translated messages, 1888 fuzzy translations, 2269
untranslated messages.
lt: 2686 translated messages, 2014 fuzzy translations, 2215
untranslated messages.
ro: 2497 translated messages, 2604 fuzzy translations, 1814
untranslated messages.
zh_CN: 2454 translated messages, 2720 fuzzy translations, 1741
untranslated messages.
ar: 2403 translated messages, 2983 fuzzy translations, 1529
untranslated messages.
no: 2399 translated messages, 2858 fuzzy translations, 1658
untranslated messages.
ko: 2075 translated messages, 1790 fuzzy translations, 3050
untranslated messages.
sr: 2055 translated messages, 1408 fuzzy translations, 3452
untranslated messages.
el: 2022 translated messages, 2220 fuzzy translations, 2673
untranslated messages.
hu: 1858 translated messages, 3100 fuzzy translations, 1957
untranslated messages.
pt: 1688 translated messages, 3120 fuzzy translations, 2107
untranslated messages.
fa: 1650 translated messages, 2002 fuzzy translations, 3263
untranslated messages.
he: 1643 translated messages, 1777 fuzzy translations, 3495
untranslated messages.
en_GB: 327 translated messages, 21 fuzzy translations, 6567
untranslated messages.

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