Eric Smith | 2 Dec 2011 01:31
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Mandatory TF2 update coming...

We should have it ready in the next 30 minutes or so.

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Team BOOM! | 2 Dec 2011 05:57
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Recent Update for Alt-Tabbing in TF2

I just wanted to say thanks to the folks at Valve for fixing TF2 when Alt-tabbing issues that have been going on forever! This was a freaking nightmare until this update and now it works absoultely awesome! Alt-tabbing from full-screen TF2 to other apps is no longer a show-stopper! THANK YOU! THANK YOU! THANK YOU! THANK YOU!!
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wanted to say thanks to the folks at Valve for fixing TF2 when Alt-tabbing 
issues that have been going on forever! This was a freaking nightmare until this 
update and now it works absoultely awesome! Alt-tabbing from full-screen TF2 to 
other apps is no longer a show-stopper! THANK YOU! THANK YOU! THANK YOU! THANK 
YOU!!</span></div>
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Logan Stuart | 2 Dec 2011 06:13
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Re: Recent Update for Alt-Tabbing in TF2

It... Never was?  Adding -noborder to launch options has been the fix for that forever.

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I just wanted to say thanks to the folks at Valve for fixing TF2 when Alt-tabbing issues that have been going on forever! This was a freaking nightmare until this update and now it works absoultely awesome! Alt-tabbing from full-screen TF2 to other apps is no longer a show-stopper! THANK YOU! THANK YOU! THANK YOU! THANK YOU!!

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<p>It... Never was?&nbsp; Adding -noborder to launch options has been the fix for that forever.<br><br></p>
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wanted to say thanks to the folks at Valve for fixing TF2 when Alt-tabbing 
issues that have been going on forever! This was a freaking nightmare until this 
update and now it works absoultely awesome! Alt-tabbing from full-screen TF2 to 
other apps is no longer a show-stopper! THANK YOU! THANK YOU! THANK YOU! THANK 
YOU!!</span></div>
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John Moroney | 2 Dec 2011 06:17
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Re: Mandatory Team Fortress 2 Update Released

Will a fix for STV ever be forthcoming?

On 2/12/2011 11:59 AM, Eric Smith wrote:
> We've released a mandatory update for Team Fortress 2. The notes for the update are below.
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> Thanks.
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> Team Fortress 2
> - Added the Itsy Bitsy Spyer
> - Added a "Buy Now" feature that allows item purchases on the web
> - WebAPI changes:
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Robert Whelan | 2 Dec 2011 06:19
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Re: Recent Update for Alt-Tabbing in TF2

Rather.... a band-aid

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Subject: Re: [hlds] Recent Update for Alt-Tabbing in TF2

It... Never was?  Adding -noborder to launch options has been the fix for that forever.

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I just wanted to say thanks to the folks at Valve for fixing TF2 when Alt-tabbing issues that have been going on forever! This was a freaking nightmare until this update and now it works absoultely awesome! Alt-tabbing from full-screen TF2 to other apps is no longer a show-stopper! THANK YOU! THANK YOU! THANK YOU! THANK YOU!!

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Kyle Sanderson | 2 Dec 2011 08:35
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Re: Recent Update for Alt-Tabbing in TF2

It's a shame Counter-Strike: Source still doesn't have this. I realize it has more peak players then TF2 (despite not being F2P), DOD:S, and HL2:DM combined. Still, a 'sync' would be greatly appreciated.

Kyle.

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Rather.... a band-aid

From: Logan Stuart <fishpen0 <at> gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [hlds] Recent Update for Alt-Tabbing in TF2

It... Never was?  Adding -noborder to launch options has been the fix for that forever.

On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 11:57 PM, Team BOOM! <teamboom <at> comcast.net> wrote:
I just wanted to say thanks to the folks at Valve for fixing TF2 when Alt-tabbing issues that have been going on forever! This was a freaking nightmare until this update and now it works absoultely awesome! Alt-tabbing from full-screen TF2 to other apps is no longer a show-stopper! THANK YOU! THANK YOU! THANK YOU! THANK YOU!!

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<p>It's a shame Counter-Strike: Source still doesn't have this. I realize it has more peak players then TF2 (despite not being F2P), DOD:S, and HL2:DM combined. Still, a 'sync' would be greatly appreciated.<br><br>Kyle.<br><br></p>
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jorgis theodoulou | 2 Dec 2011 13:50
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Re: Recent Update for Alt-Tabbing in TF2

I used -noborder as a fix. But the improved behaviour in fullscreen mode is that it went from simply crashing to freezing up.

On 2 December 2011 08:35, Kyle Sanderson <kyle.leet <at> gmail.com> wrote:
It's a shame Counter-Strike: Source still doesn't have this. I realize it has more peak players then TF2 (despite not being F2P), DOD:S, and HL2:DM combined. Still, a 'sync' would be greatly appreciated.

Kyle.


On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 9:19 PM, Robert Whelan <mrrjwhelan <at> yahoo.com> wrote:
Rather.... a band-aid

From: Logan Stuart <fishpen0 <at> gmail.com>
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It... Never was?  Adding -noborder to launch options has been the fix for that forever.

On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 11:57 PM, Team BOOM! <teamboom <at> comcast.net> wrote:
I just wanted to say thanks to the folks at Valve for fixing TF2 when Alt-tabbing issues that have been going on forever! This was a freaking nightmare until this update and now it works absoultely awesome! Alt-tabbing from full-screen TF2 to other apps is no longer a show-stopper! THANK YOU! THANK YOU! THANK YOU! THANK YOU!!

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<p>I used -noborder as a fix. But the improved behaviour in fullscreen mode is that it went from simply crashing to freezing up.<br><br></p>
<div class="gmail_quote">On 2 December 2011 08:35, Kyle Sanderson <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:kyle.leet <at> gmail.com">kyle.leet <at> gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote">It's a shame Counter-Strike: Source still doesn't have this. I realize it has more peak players then TF2 (despite not being F2P), DOD:S, and HL2:DM combined. Still, a 'sync' would be greatly appreciated.<br>

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<br><div>It... Never was?&nbsp; Adding -<span>noborder</span> to launch options has been the fix for that forever.<br><br><div>On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 11:57 PM, Team BOOM! <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:teamboom <at> comcast.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">teamboom <at> comcast.net</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote>
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Yep, and you could minimize for accident, which doesn't matter now anymore :)

On Fri, Dec 2, 2011 at 10:50 AM, jorgis theodoulou <jorgis <at> gmail.com> wrote:
I used -noborder as a fix. But the improved behaviour in fullscreen mode is that it went from simply crashing to freezing up.


On 2 December 2011 08:35, Kyle Sanderson <kyle.leet <at> gmail.com> wrote:
It's a shame Counter-Strike: Source still doesn't have this. I realize it has more peak players then TF2 (despite not being F2P), DOD:S, and HL2:DM combined. Still, a 'sync' would be greatly appreciated.

Kyle.


On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 9:19 PM, Robert Whelan <mrrjwhelan <at> yahoo.com> wrote:
Rather.... a band-aid

From: Logan Stuart <fishpen0 <at> gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [hlds] Recent Update for Alt-Tabbing in TF2

It... Never was?  Adding -noborder to launch options has been the fix for that forever.

On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 11:57 PM, Team BOOM! <teamboom <at> comcast.net> wrote:
I just wanted to say thanks to the folks at Valve for fixing TF2 when Alt-tabbing issues that have been going on forever! This was a freaking nightmare until this update and now it works absoultely awesome! Alt-tabbing from full-screen TF2 to other apps is no longer a show-stopper! THANK YOU! THANK YOU! THANK YOU! THANK YOU!!

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<p>Yep, and you could minimize for accident, which doesn't matter now anymore :)<br><br></p>
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<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On 2 December 2011 08:35, Kyle Sanderson <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:kyle.leet <at> gmail.com" target="_blank">kyle.leet <at> gmail.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote">It's a shame Counter-Strike: Source still doesn't have this. I realize it has more peak players then TF2 (despite not being F2P), DOD:S, and HL2:DM combined. Still, a 'sync' would be greatly appreciated.<br>

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<br><div>It... Never was?&nbsp; Adding -<span>noborder</span> to launch options has been the fix for that forever.<br><br><div>On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 11:57 PM, Team BOOM! <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:teamboom <at> comcast.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">teamboom <at> comcast.net</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote>
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Emil Larsson | 2 Dec 2011 13:58
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I still prefer the -noborder behavior since alt+tabbing minimizes the game in fullscreen mode. Which is rather annoying if you're only trying to access something on your second screen. And your mouse is not restricted to the monitor the game is on in -noborder which is another reason.

Fullscreen mode just went from being painful to managable on a multi-monitor setup though. :)

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Rather.... a band-aid

From: Logan Stuart <fishpen0 <at> gmail.com>
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Subject: Re: [hlds] Recent Update for Alt-Tabbing in TF2

It... Never was?  Adding -noborder to launch options has been the fix for that forever.

On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 11:57 PM, Team BOOM! <teamboom <at> comcast.net> wrote:
I just wanted to say thanks to the folks at Valve for fixing TF2 when Alt-tabbing issues that have been going on forever! This was a freaking nightmare until this update and now it works absoultely awesome! Alt-tabbing from full-screen TF2 to other apps is no longer a show-stopper! THANK YOU! THANK YOU! THANK YOU! THANK YOU!!

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<p>I still prefer the -noborder behavior since alt+tabbing minimizes the game in fullscreen mode. Which is rather annoying if you're only trying to access something on your second screen. And your mouse is not restricted to the monitor the game is on in -noborder which is another reason.<br><br>Fullscreen mode just went from being painful to managable on a multi-monitor setup though. :)<br><br></p>
<div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Dec 2, 2011 at 6:19 AM, Robert Whelan <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:mrrjwhelan <at> yahoo.com">mrrjwhelan <at> yahoo.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote">
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<span>From:</span> Logan Stuart &lt;<a href="mailto:fishpen0 <at> gmail.com" target="_blank">fishpen0 <at> gmail.com</a>&gt;<br><span>To:</span> Half-Life dedicated Win32 server mailing list &lt;<a href="mailto:hlds <at> list.valvesoftware.com" target="_blank">hlds <at> list.valvesoftware.com</a>&gt; <br><span>Sent:</span> Thursday, December 1, 2011 11:13 PM<br><span>Subject:</span> Re: [hlds] Recent Update for Alt-Tabbing in <span>TF</span>2<br><div>
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<br><div>It... Never was?&nbsp; Adding -<span>noborder</span> to launch options has been the fix for that forever.<br><br><div>On Thu, Dec 1, 2011 at 11:57 PM, Team BOOM! <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:teamboom <at> comcast.net" rel="nofollow" target="_blank">teamboom <at> comcast.net</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote>
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<div><span>I just wanted to say thanks to the folks at Valve for fixing <span>TF</span>2 when Alt-tabbing issues that have been going on forever! This was a freaking nightmare until this update and now it works <span>absoultely</span> awesome! Alt-tabbing from full-screen <span>TF</span>2 to other apps is no longer a show-stopper! THANK YOU! THANK YOU! THANK YOU! THANK YOU!!</span></div>
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Kyle Sanderson | 3 Dec 2011 01:59
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Re: Team Fortress 2 client update released

Is that the long standing frame rate issue where it drops to 30~ then back to 200+ a bit later? (I'm assuming these numbers are specific to my machine, overall result seems to be constant).


Thanks,
Kyle.

On Fri, Dec 2, 2011 at 4:46 PM, Eric Smith <erics <at> valvesoftware.com> wrote:
We've released a client update for Team Fortress 2. The notes for the update are below.

Thanks.

-Eric

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Team Fortress 2
- Fixed "Checkout Unavailable" error preventing certain accounts from purchasing items
- Improved the framerate stuttering issues some clients were experiencing


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<p>Is that the long standing frame rate issue where it drops to 30~ then back to 200+ a bit later? (I'm assuming these numbers are specific to my machine, overall result seems to be constant).</p>
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<div>Kyle.<br><br><div class="gmail_quote">On Fri, Dec 2, 2011 at 4:46 PM, Eric Smith <span dir="ltr">&lt;<a href="mailto:erics <at> valvesoftware.com">erics <at> valvesoftware.com</a>&gt;</span> wrote:<br><blockquote class="gmail_quote">

We've released a client update for Team Fortress 2. The notes for the update are below.<br><br>
Thanks.<br><br>
-Eric<br><br>
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Team Fortress 2<br>
- Fixed "Checkout Unavailable" error preventing certain accounts from purchasing items<br>
- Improved the framerate stuttering issues some clients were experiencing<br><br><br>
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