Aaron Cleavin | 1 Feb 09:15 2012
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Re: Sniper Question

A cower though is an effect is it not?

2012/2/1 Klas Malmström <klas_malmstrom@...>

> True, but such a DR that can no effect other than a Sniper attack is not
> made.
>
> E.g., an attack on the IFT with say 1 FP and a DRM of +6.
>
> Regards,
> Klas
>
> Ismo Mehtälä skrev 2012-01-31 17:38:
>
>  Any TH, MC, TC, non-OBA IFT or entrenching original DR during PFPh, MPh,
>> DFPh and AFPh causes sniper attack.
>>
>> Ismo
>>
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>>  Wind change, bog, fire spread, falling rubble, bridge/ice collapse,
>>> close combat DR ...
>>>
>>> Those I can think of off the top of my head.
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Klas Malmström | 1 Feb 09:56 2012
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Re: Sniper Question

Only if the firing unit has other weapons in could fire (or during Defensive First Fire), I think.

E.g., a 4-6-8 squad with no SW that takes a 1FP (long range vs ? target) and the DRM is +6.
I'm not sure such an attack could have a game effect.

/Klas

 
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>A cower though is an effect is it not?
>
>
>2012/2/1 Klas Malmström <klas_malmstrom@...>
>
>True, but such a DR that can no effect other than a Sniper attack is not made.
>>
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Aaron Cleavin | 1 Feb 12:58 2012
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Re: Sniper Question

But cowering would preclude other SFF opportunites, which is an effect!!

2012/2/1 Klas Malmström <klas_malmstrom@...>

> Only if the firing unit has other weapons in could fire (or during
> Defensive First Fire), I think.
>
> E.g., a 4-6-8 squad with no SW that takes a 1FP (long range vs ? target)
> and the DRM is +6.
> I'm not sure such an attack could have a game effect.
>
> /Klas
>
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Klas Malmström | 1 Feb 13:05 2012
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Re: Sniper Question

Yes, as I wrote, during Defensive First Fire, the DR needs to be done - but perhaps not
during Prep Fire.

/Klas

 
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>But cowering would preclude other SFF opportunites, which is an effect!!
>
>
>2012/2/1 Klas Malmström <klas_malmstrom@...>
>
>Only if the firing unit has other weapons in could fire (or during Defensive First Fire), I think.
>>
>>E.g., a 4-6-8 squad with no SW that takes a 1FP (long range vs ? target) and the DRM is +6.
>>I'm not sure such an attack could have a game effect.
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Jon Cole | 1 Feb 13:48 2012
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Re: Sniper Question

You could even argue that even if no cowering, being marked First Fire is an 
effect, as you are then limited to SFF/FPF with range restrictions etc :-)

Cheers
Jon

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But cowering would preclude other SFF opportunites, which is an effect!!

2012/2/1 Klas Malmström <klas_malmstrom@...>

> Only if the firing unit has other weapons in could fire (or during
> Defensive First Fire), I think.
>
> E.g., a 4-6-8 squad with no SW that takes a 1FP (long range vs ? target)
> and the DRM is +6.
> I'm not sure such an attack could have a game effect.
>
> /Klas
>
>
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Klas Malmström | 1 Feb 13:52 2012
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Re: Sniper Question

But the placement of the a First Fire marker isn't tied to making a DR though - it is placed
due to an attack being declared.

When cowering is an possibility and it would alter the units subsequent firing/attacking
options, then a DR needs to be made.

/Klas

 
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>You could even argue that even if no cowering, being marked First Fire is an 
>effect, as you are then limited to SFF/FPF with range restrictions etc :-)
>
>Cheers
>Jon
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geb3 | 2 Feb 03:03 2012
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J142 & J143

Couple questions for Pete Shelling or anyone else in the know:

J 142 "Penny Packets"
What is the TI activity in SSR2, and why should it add to the US VP total?
Curious to know what those gunners are up to...

J143 "Circle Of Doom"
SSR3 mandates recall of any HT not carrying passengers at the start of RPh
in the US half of a turn.  I take it that abandoned HT's must be exempt?

Can't wait for the answers.  While CSW is down, the List is life.

Cheers!

 - G

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Chas Argent | 2 Feb 03:09 2012
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Re: J142 & J143

George...

J142:
The TI activity represents the Priests providing fire support to the
101st (described in the narrative). So the German wants to disrupt
that and thus prevent the Americans from gaining those VP.

J143:
Yep, pretty hard for an Abandoned HT to drive away....

~Chas

On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 9:03 PM, geb3 <geb3 <at> inter.net> wrote:
> Couple questions for Pete Shelling or anyone else in the know:
>
> J 142 "Penny Packets"
> What is the TI activity in SSR2, and why should it add to the US VP total?
> Curious to know what those gunners are up to...
>
> J143 "Circle Of Doom"
> SSR3 mandates recall of any HT not carrying passengers at the start of RPh
> in the US half of a turn.  I take it that abandoned HT's must be exempt?
>
> Can't wait for the answers.  While CSW is down, the List is life.
>
> Cheers!
>
>  - G
>
> _______________________________________________
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Wes Neal | 2 Feb 03:19 2012
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Re: J142 & J143

Why back in the day I recall abandoned HTs driving away all the time!  Right to their garage.......

J143: Yep, pretty hard for an Abandoned HT to drive away.... ~Chas

On 2/1/2012 9:09 PM, Chas Argent wrote:
> George...
>
> J142:
> The TI activity represents the Priests providing fire support to the
> 101st (described in the narrative). So the German wants to disrupt
> that and thus prevent the Americans from gaining those VP.
>
> J143:
> Yep, pretty hard for an Abandoned HT to drive away....
>
> ~Chas
>
> On Wed, Feb 1, 2012 at 9:03 PM, geb3<geb3@...>  wrote:
>> Couple questions for Pete Shelling or anyone else in the know:
>>
>> J 142 "Penny Packets"
>> What is the TI activity in SSR2, and why should it add to the US VP total?
>> Curious to know what those gunners are up to...
>>
>> J143 "Circle Of Doom"
>> SSR3 mandates recall of any HT not carrying passengers at the start of RPh
>> in the US half of a turn.  I take it that abandoned HT's must be exempt?
>>
>> Can't wait for the answers.  While CSW is down, the List is life.
>>
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Tom Jazbutis | 2 Feb 03:36 2012
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Re: J142 & J143

I can only talk for J142 because I was involved with playtest.

The gunners are involved in shooting.   The TI activity is providing
indirect artillery support to other sectors not in play on the scenario
mapboard.  The more turns they shoot, the more support they provide against
off board targets.

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Couple questions for Pete Shelling or anyone else in the know:

J 142 "Penny Packets"
What is the TI activity in SSR2, and why should it add to the US VP total?
Curious to know what those gunners are up to...

J143 "Circle Of Doom"
SSR3 mandates recall of any HT not carrying passengers at the start of RPh
in the US half of a turn.  I take it that abandoned HT's must be exempt?

Can't wait for the answers.  While CSW is down, the List is life.

Cheers!

 - G
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Gmane