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Lennart Borgman | 8 Nov 2005 03:03
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Re: Call for volunteers to check manual files

*** This is an important message so I add a bit for those using MS Windows:

If you are using MS Windows then you can get a precompiled version of 
Emacs (or instructions for building on MS Windows), see 
http://www.emacswiki.org/cgi-bin/wiki/CategoryWThirtyTwo.

There are actually also lacking some MS Windows specific information in 
the manuals currently.

Chong Yidong wrote:

>This is a call for volunteers to help check the manuals for the
>upcoming Emacs 22 release.
>
>Before the Emacs developers can release Emacs 22, we need to check the
>manuals for factual accuracy, especially the parts describing new
>features.  Any help that you can provide would be greatly appreciated.
>
>We need to keep track of how many people have checked different parts
>of the manual.  So, if you would like to help, please read and
>*follow* these simple instructions:
>
>1. Download the development version of Emacs from CVS.  Instructions
>   can be found at
>
>    http://savannah.gnu.org/cvs/?group=emacs
>
>2. Build Emacs.  See INSTALL.CVS, in the source tree, for
>   instructions; basically,
>
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LENNART BORGMAN | 18 Nov 2005 11:47
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Installing elib-1.0

I have trouble installing elib v 1.0. I have changed the Makefile to reflect my paths:

prefix = c:/Program\ Files/Emacs
locallisppath = $(prefix)/site-lisp
ELIBDIR = $(locallisppath)/elib
infodir = $(prefix)/site-info

When I run "make install" it fails like this 

$ make install
emacs -batch -l elib-compile-all.el -f compile-elib
Adding c:/Program Files/Emacs/setup/lisp/ to load-path
makeinfo elib.texi
' in  <at> synindex.nknown index `fn' and/or `cp
makeinfo: Removing output file `/c/DL/emacs/elib-1.0/elib-1.0/elib.info' due to
errors; use --force to preserve.
make: *** [elib.info] Error 2

Can anyone explain how to install elib on MS Windows?
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LENNART BORGMAN | 18 Nov 2005 13:14
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Re: Installing elib-1.0

Please drop this. It worked if I used Cygwin instead of MSYS.

----- Original Message -----
From: LENNART BORGMAN <lennart.borgman.073 <at> student.lu.se>
Date: Friday, November 18, 2005 11:47 am
Subject: [h-e-w] Installing elib-1.0

> I have trouble installing elib v 1.0. I have changed the Makefile 
> to reflect my paths:
> 
> prefix = c:/Program\ Files/Emacs
> locallisppath = $(prefix)/site-lisp
> ELIBDIR = $(locallisppath)/elib
> infodir = $(prefix)/site-info
> 
> When I run "make install" it fails like this 
> 
> $ make install
> emacs -batch -l elib-compile-all.el -f compile-elib
> Adding c:/Program Files/Emacs/setup/lisp/ to load-path
> makeinfo elib.texi
> ' in  <at> synindex.nknown index `fn' and/or `cp
> makeinfo: Removing output file `/c/DL/emacs/elib-1.0/elib-
> 1.0/elib.info' due to
> errors; use --force to preserve.
> make: *** [elib.info] Error 2
> 
> Can anyone explain how to install elib on MS Windows?
> 
>
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Harry Putnam | 19 Nov 2005 01:07
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21.3 on xp no tab

Running 21.3 on Winxp, should I have a normal tab key function? 

Seems I have to use C-q tab to get a tab.  Is that common? If so what
do people do to work around?
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Michael Campbell | 20 Nov 2005 01:25
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Re: 21.3 on xp no tab

On 11/18/05, Harry Putnam <reader <at> newsguy.com> wrote:
> Running 21.3 on Winxp, should I have a normal tab key function?
>
> Seems I have to use C-q tab to get a tab.  Is that common? If so what
> do people do to work around?

Very often a mode will bind the tab key to some sort of an "indent"
function, which makes sense for the mode you're in at the time.

C-h k <tab>

(Mnemonically, "help, key, tab")

will tell you what the tab key is bound to.

--
I tend to view "truly flexible" by another term: "Make everything
equally hard". -- DHH
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Zahar Malinovsky | 21 Nov 2005 12:15
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can't run 'ediff'

i have emacs 21.2 on Win2003.
After "M-x ediff-files"
It says "Searching for program: can't find directory or file, ediff.
My PATH variable is set to d:\emacs-21.2\; d:\emacs-21.2\lisp; d:
\emacs-21.2\site-lisp

What is wrong that it won't run?
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Lennart Borgman | 21 Nov 2005 17:00
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Re: can't run 'ediff'

Zahar Malinovsky wrote:

>i have emacs 21.2 on Win2003.
>After "M-x ediff-files"
>It says "Searching for program: can't find directory or file, ediff.
>My PATH variable is set to d:\emacs-21.2\; d:\emacs-21.2\lisp; d:
>\emacs-21.2\site-lisp
>
>What is wrong that it won't run?
>  
>
See for example http://ourcomments.org/Emacs/w32-unix-progs.html
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Lennart Borgman | 23 Nov 2005 14:13
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Unix utilities for Emacs on MS Windows

I have just updated my web page that recommends unix utilities to use 
for Emacs on MS Windows. I have a bit changed my mind and now recommend 
Cygwin installed so that it can handle both CR-LF and LF style line 
endings. Before I did prefer GnuWin32, but it unfortunately lacks a unix 
style shell.

If anyone have comments on those recommendations they are very welcome! 
I am still a bit unsure about Cygwin and would be glad for any comments.

My recommendations are here:

    http://ourcomments.org/Emacs/w32-unix-progs.html
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Neil Mackie | 23 Nov 2005 17:35
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RE: Unix utilities for Emacs on MS Windows

Lennart Borgman suggested,

>> I did prefer GnuWin32, but it unfortunately lacks a unix style shell.

MSYS has a shell which although the executable is sh.exe is actually
bash AFAIKT. It and mingw also have the traditional download +
untar/unzip install method rather than an installer which are not
allowed in secure/locked down environments. You can then add whatever
cli executables you wish from whereever you wish, including GnuWin32. 

But why would a shell be a concern when you can do everything from
within emacs?  &8-> 

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Neil (J Mackie).

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Ismael Valladolid Torres | 23 Nov 2005 17:37
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Re: Unix utilities for Emacs on MS Windows

Lennart Borgman wrote:

> If anyone have comments on those recommendations they are very welcome!
> I am still a bit unsure about Cygwin and would be glad for any comments.

It works lovely apart from a few unimportant glitches. Feel free to
suggest this snippet from my .emacs which suits perfectly my environment.

  (when (file-directory-p "C:/cygwin/bin")

    ;; Make NT Emacs use Cygwin bash, copied verbatim from Cygwin FAQ
    ;; at http://www.cygwin.com/faq/

    ;; This assumes that Cygwin is installed in C:\cygwin (the
    ;; default) and that C:\cygwin\bin is not already in your
    ;; Windows Path (it generally should not be).
    ;;
    (setq exec-path (cons "C:/cygwin/bin" exec-path))
    (setenv "PATH" (concat "C:\\cygwin\\bin;" (getenv "PATH")))
    ;;
    ;; NT-emacs assumes a Windows command shell, which you change
    ;; here.
    ;;
    (setq process-coding-system-alist '(("bash" . undecided-unix)))
    (setq shell-file-name "bash")
    (setenv "SHELL" shell-file-name)
    (setq explicit-shell-file-name shell-file-name)
    ;;
    ;; This removes unsightly ^M characters that would otherwise
    ;; appear in the output of java applications.
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