Julian Bradfield | 3 Feb 15:47 2012

virtual folder problem: getting new mail

In 8.2.0b (well, actually revision 1310 to deal with the previous
bug), virtual folders don't play well with new mail.

My standard folder is a virtual folder INBOX, which is the
concatenation of the real folders INBOX-lessnew, INBOX-new, and
INBOX-newest.
New mail arrives in INBOX-newest, which is the primary inbox.

In 8.1.1, everything works.

In 8.2.0, when I hit  g  in the INBOX summary, instead of just getting
the new mail, VM also switches to the INBOX-newest folder summary and
shows it there.
(I note that VM has created summaries for each of the real folders,
which it doesn't do in 8.1.1. I didn't ask it to!)

Uday Reddy | 5 Feb 13:41 2012
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Re: virtual folder problem: getting new mail

Hi Julian, this might be a duplicate of

  https://bugs.launchpad.net/vm/+bug/909501

Can you try revision 1311 please?

Cheers,
Uday

Julian Bradfield | 13 Feb 13:58 2012

multipart messages

How do I get vm to give me buttons for all the objects in a
multipart/alternative or multipart/related message (usually so I can
delete them, but maybe I want to see an image referenced by the html
(which I will have converted to text)) ?

Ralf Fassel | 13 Feb 16:33 2012
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Re: multipart messages

* Julian Bradfield <jcb+vm@...>
| How do I get vm to give me buttons for all the objects in a
| multipart/alternative or multipart/related message (usually so I can
| delete them, but maybe I want to see an image referenced by the html
| (which I will have converted to text)) ?

Related topic: is there a way to temporarily display the 'other' part of
a multipart/alternative message?  Some MUAs are too dumb to include
common parts like PDFs or pictures in a way that both text/plain and
text/html see them -- they are only present in text/html.  While I have
set VM to always display text/plain, sometimes I'd like to see the
'other' part as well.  Currently I toggle via 'D' to see whether the
HTML part has more to offer...

R'

Julian Bradfield | 13 Feb 16:59 2012

Re: multipart messages

On 2012-02-13, Ralf Fassel <ralfixx@...> wrote:
> a multipart/alternative message?  Some MUAs are too dumb to include
> common parts like PDFs or pictures in a way that both text/plain and
> text/html see them -- they are only present in text/html.  While I have

"Some MUAs"...you mean Apple Mail, right? I've never seen the problem
with anyone else.
Quite how Apple can survive for long when they have *never* had a
working mail client, I do not know!

I'd also be interested in this - at present, I pre-process my mail
before it hits my inbox, and this deals with some Apple lossage, but
not completely.

Uday Reddy | 13 Feb 18:39 2012
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Re: multipart messages

Julian Bradfield writes:

> How do I get vm to give me buttons for all the objects in a
> multipart/alternative or multipart/related message (usually so I can
> delete them, but maybe I want to see an image referenced by the html
> (which I will have converted to text)) ?

(setq vm-mime-alternative-show-method 'all)

For multipart/related, on the other hand, there are no controls.  It can go
on the wish list.

Cheers,
Uday

Uday Reddy | 13 Feb 18:42 2012
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Re: multipart messages

Ralf Fassel writes:

> Related topic: is there a way to temporarily display the 'other' part of
> a multipart/alternative message?  Some MUAs are too dumb to include
> common parts like PDFs or pictures in a way that both text/plain and
> text/html see them -- they are only present in text/html.  While I have
> set VM to always display text/plain, sometimes I'd like to see the
> 'other' part as well.  Currently I toggle via 'D' to see whether the
> HTML part has more to offer...

I actually use toggling function that alternates between the various
options.  

(defun vm-alternatives ()
  "Toggle MIME alternatives"
  (interactive)
  (cond ((eq vm-mime-alternative-select-method 'best-internal)
	 (setq vm-mime-alternative-select-method 'best)
	 (vm-scroll-forward)
	 (message "Showing best alternatives"))
	((eq vm-mime-alternative-select-method 'best)
	 (setq vm-mime-alternative-select-method 'all)
	 (vm-scroll-forward)
	 (message "Showing all alternatives"))
	((eq vm-mime-alternative-select-method 'all)
	 (setq vm-mime-alternative-select-method 'best-internal)
	 (vm-scroll-forward)
	 (message "Showing best internal alternatives"))
	))

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Julian Bradfield | 13 Feb 18:44 2012

Re: multipart messages

>(setq vm-mime-alternative-show-method 'all)

Would be good if that variable's documentation string mentioned
that. It only describes 'best and a favorite list.

>For multipart/related, on the other hand, there are no controls.  It can go
>on the wish list.

Since an MUA client that can't present multipart/related is
REQUIRED to treat it as multipart/mixed, perhaps it should be a bug
rather than a wish.

Uday Reddy | 13 Feb 18:56 2012
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Re: multipart messages

Julian Bradfield writes:

> Since an MUA client that can't present multipart/related is
> REQUIRED to treat it as multipart/mixed, perhaps it should be a bug
> rather than a wish.

Please feel free to browse (and add your interest to):

  https://bugs.launchpad.net/vm/+bug/881411

Cheers,
Uday

Ralf Fassel | 13 Feb 20:23 2012
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Re: multipart messages

* Julian Bradfield <jcb+vm@...>
| On 2012-02-13, Ralf Fassel <ralfixx@...> wrote:
| > Some MUAs are too dumb to include common parts like PDFs or pictures
| > in a way that both text/plain and text/html see them -- they are
| > only present in text/html.
>
| "Some MUAs"...you mean Apple Mail, right? I've never seen the problem
| with anyone else.

Incidentally, yes :-)

R'


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