psgml mode user questions

BryanChilds | 4 Sep 2002 12:27

Illegal markup declaration

Hi everyone,

I'm using PSGML on XEmacs (cygwin) 21.4 (patch 9) "Informed Management" on NT 4 SP6.

The version of PSGML installed has me confused, the installer for XEmacs calls it version 1.31, but doing a
'describe-variable psgml-version' from within XEmacs after its loaded says 1.2.2

Anyway.

I'm not sure how / why but my install of PSGML is refusing to work well with any sort of markup document.

Right now, at this second, I'm trying to work with an HTML document, defined like this on the first line of the
file :

<!DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 Transitional//EN">

I've also been trying to work with DocBook SGML and XML files, defined as (excuse the line breaks) :

<!DOCTYPE article PUBLIC "-//OASIS//DTD DocBook V4.1//EN" >
and
<!DOCTYPE article PUBLIC "-//OASIS/DTD DocBook XML V4.1.2//EN" "http://www.oasis-open.org/docbook/xml/4.1.2/docbookx.dtd">

respectively.

In *all* cases, when I try to parse the DTD so that I can use the features of PSGML for inserting elements etc. I
got one of the two following error messages (although the content of the file changes what it's
complaining about) :

Uppercase keyword expected (found DOCTYPE article PUBLIC "-//OASIS/DTD DocBook XML V4.1.2//EN" "http://www.oasis-open.org/docbook/xml/4.1.2/docbookx.dtd">

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Ville Skyttä | 4 Sep 2002 19:25

Re: Illegal markup declaration

On Wed, 2002-09-04 at 13:27, BryanChilds <at> hbosts.com wrote:

> The version of PSGML installed has me confused, the installer for
> XEmacs calls it version 1.31, but doing a 'describe-variable
> psgml-version' from within XEmacs after its loaded says 1.2.2

Version 1.31 is the XEmacs package version of psgml, which contains
psgml 1.2.2.  XEmacs package version numbers don't necessarily have
anything to do with the upstream versions.

[...]

> In *all* cases, when I try to parse the DTD so that I can use the
> features of PSGML for inserting elements etc. I got one of the two
> following error messages (although the content of the file changes
> what it's complaining about) :
> 
> Uppercase keyword expected (found DOCTYPE article PUBLIC "-//OASIS/DTD DocBook XML V4.1.2//EN" "http://www.oasis-open.org/docbook/xml/4.1.2/docbookx.dtd">
> 
> or
> 
> Illegal markup declaration DOCTYPE HTML PUBLIC "-//W3C//DTD HTML 4.01 TRANSITIONAL//EN">

We received a similar bug report in the xemacs-beta a couple of days
ago, and I'm planning to take a look at it soon, maybe tonight.  I'll
report here (possibly with a patch) if I find there's something wrong
with psgml.  If this is a known problem in psgml <= 1.2.2, I'd
appreciate a note about it.

I'm also planning to sync the XEmacs package with psgml 1.2.5.  Is

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Ville Skyttä | 5 Sep 2002 17:09

Re: Illegal markup declaration

On Wed, 2002-09-04 at 20:25, Ville Skyttä wrote:

> We received a similar bug report in the xemacs-beta a couple of days
> ago, and I'm planning to take a look at it soon, maybe tonight.  I'll
> report here (possibly with a patch) if I find there's something wrong
> with psgml.  If this is a known problem in psgml <= 1.2.2, I'd
> appreciate a note about it.

Actually, it seems to me that this has nothing to do with psgml, but is
probably a XEmacs 21.4.9 (Windows [2]) bug.

Bryan, could you verify if you're running 21.4.9 (Windows [2]) or
(Windows [1])?  And this might be a bit offtopic on psgml-user, we'd
appreciate the bug details at <xemacs-beta <at> xemacs.org>.

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BryanChilds | 5 Sep 2002 17:49

RE: Illegal markup declaration

I think you're right.

The version of XEmacs I'm on in :

"21.4 (patch 9) \"Informed Management (Windows [2])\" XEmacs Lucid"

Out of curiosity, I replicated the setup with NTEmacs, and it works fine there...

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ville Skyttä [mailto:ville.skytta <at> xemacs.org]
> Sent: 05 September 2002 16:10
> To: Childs, Bryan (Treasury)
> Cc: psgml-user <at> lists.sourceforge.net
> Subject: Re: [Psgml-user] Illegal markup declaration
> 
> 
> On Wed, 2002-09-04 at 20:25, Ville Skyttä wrote:
> 
> > We received a similar bug report in the xemacs-beta a couple of days
> > ago, and I'm planning to take a look at it soon, maybe 
> tonight.  I'll
> > report here (possibly with a patch) if I find there's 
> something wrong
> > with psgml.  If this is a known problem in psgml <= 1.2.2, I'd
> > appreciate a note about it.
> 
> Actually, it seems to me that this has nothing to do with 
> psgml, but is
> probably a XEmacs 21.4.9 (Windows [2]) bug.
>

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Ville Skyttä | 5 Sep 2002 21:37

RE: Illegal markup declaration

On Thu, 2002-09-05 at 18:49, BryanChilds <at> hbosts.com wrote:

> I think you're right.
> 
> The version of XEmacs I'm on in :
> 
> "21.4 (patch 9) \"Informed Management (Windows [2])\" XEmacs Lucid"
> 
> Out of curiosity, I replicated the setup with NTEmacs, and it works fine there...

Thanks for the info, Bryan.  We have people already looking at this, and
I think we can expect a bugfixed Windows XEmacs release soon.

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BryanChilds | 6 Sep 2002 10:01

RE: Illegal markup declaration

Thanks Ville,

I'll keep an eye on the xemacs mailing lists then!

Bry

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ville Skyttä [mailto:ville.skytta <at> xemacs.org]
> Sent: 05 September 2002 20:38
> To: Childs, Bryan (Treasury)
> Cc: psgml-user <at> lists.sourceforge.net
> Subject: RE: [Psgml-user] Illegal markup declaration
> 
> 
> On Thu, 2002-09-05 at 18:49, BryanChilds <at> hbosts.com wrote:
> 
> > I think you're right.
> > 
> > The version of XEmacs I'm on in :
> > 
> > "21.4 (patch 9) \"Informed Management (Windows [2])\" XEmacs Lucid"
> > 
> > Out of curiosity, I replicated the setup with NTEmacs, and 
> it works fine there...
> 
> Thanks for the info, Bryan.  We have people already looking 
> at this, and
> I think we can expect a bugfixed Windows XEmacs release soon.
> 
> Cheers,

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Fischer, Oliver | 10 Sep 2002 16:22

psgml and catalog files in XML format

Hello,

I installed a CATALOG file in XML format pointing to some DTD's. My 
xemacs knows the right location, since sgml-catalog-files has
the same value as the environment variable SGML_CATALOG_FILES.

Since I got always :

External entity book not found
   Public identifier -//OASIS//DTD DocBook XML V4.2//EN
   System identifier http://www.oasis-open.org/docbook/xml/4.2/docbookx.dtd

Is it possible that psgml can not deal with xml based catalog files?

Bye

Oliver

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BryanChilds | 10 Sep 2002 16:05

PSGML / DocBook DTD

Hi,

Can anyone confirm whether or not PSGML's interpretation of what are valid tags at any given point in a DocBook document is correct or not ?

I'm having trouble...

I'm in the middle of writing a fairly simple document (so I'm using article as my base). In the middle of a table entry, I thought I could add a <simplelist> item. Certainly PSGML seems to think so, as it comes up in the list of valid tags...

However, onsgml doesn't seem to think simplelist *is* valid in that location, and when I get to the end of the simplelist, and attempt to carry on with the table, by inserting another <row> element, PSGML seems to have got well and truly confused, and doesn't believe <row> is a valid tag to have in the middle of my <tgroup>...

I'm on PSGML 1.2.2, on XEmacs 21.4.9 (Windows [3]), running on cygwin...

Thanks in advance to anyone who can shed any light...

Bryan Childs
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Dave Pawson | 10 Sep 2002 21:59

Re: psgml and catalog files in XML format

At 15:22 10/09/2002, Fischer, Oliver wrote:
>Hello,
>
>I installed a CATALOG file in XML format pointing to some DTD's. My xemacs knows the right location, since
sgml-catalog-files has
>the same value as the environment variable SGML_CATALOG_FILES.

No, sorry. psgml doesn't hack xml catalog files.... yet 

As of today I'm starting to validate docbook stuff using 
Daniel Vaillard's catalog aware parser.
Needs one environmental variable (win32) or catalog in the right
position (Linux).
I now use emacs for editing, then check with xmllint from libxml.

Its fast, and failed only two of the oasis conformance tests.

Good enough for me at least.

I do wish someone would produce an editor to better emacs+psgml...
 but they haven't yet 

regards DaveP

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Ron Ross | 10 Sep 2002 23:57

Re: psgml and catalog files in XML format

Dave Pawson <dpawson <at> nildram.co.uk> writes:

> At 15:22 10/09/2002, Fischer, Oliver wrote:
>>Hello,
>>
>>I installed a CATALOG file in XML format pointing to some DTD's. My xemacs knows the right location, since
sgml-catalog-files has
>>the same value as the environment variable SGML_CATALOG_FILES.
>
> No, sorry. psgml doesn't hack xml catalog files.... yet 
>

I admit I don't use XML much except for my own DTDs with local system
identifiers, but testing now with

  <?xml version='1.0'?>
  <!DOCTYPE article PUBLIC "-//OASIS//DTD DocBook XML V4.1.2//EN"
  "http://www.oasis-open.org/docbook/xml/4.2/docbookx.dtd" [
  ]>

where my catalog file has

PUBLIC "-//OASIS//DTD DocBook XML V4.1.2//EN" "./dtd/docbookx/docbookx.dtd"
SYSTEM "http://www.oasis-open.org/docbook/xml/4.2/docbookx.dtd" "./dtd/docbookx/docbookx.dtd"

pointing to my local copy of the DTD, Emacs/psgml seems to work fine.

Emacs 21.2.90
Psgml 1.3.0 beta

Is an "xml catalog file" something different? I thought there wasn't any such thing.

> As of today I'm starting to validate docbook stuff using 
> Daniel Vaillard's catalog aware parser.
> Needs one environmental variable (win32) or catalog in the right
> position (Linux).
> I now use emacs for editing, then check with xmllint from libxml.
>
> Its fast, and failed only two of the oasis conformance tests.
>
> Good enough for me at least.
>
> I do wish someone would produce an editor to better emacs+psgml...
>  but they haven't yet 
>
> regards DaveP
>
>
>
>
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