Alan Schmitt | 3 Dec 2011 17:24

TextExpander with Emacs for Mac OS X

Hello,

I'm trying Emacs for Mac OS X, switching from Aquamacs, and it seems that it does not work with TextExpander,
nor with LaunchBar's clipboard history. When I try to use them nothing gets inserted.

Does anyone know if I need to do something special for them to work?

(I also contacted David Caldwell directly about this, I'll post again if he tells me what to do.)

Thanks,

Alan
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David Reitter | 3 Dec 2011 20:03
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Re: TextExpander with Emacs for Mac OS X

On Dec 3, 2011, at 11:24 AM, Alan Schmitt wrote:
> 
> I'm trying Emacs for Mac OS X, switching from Aquamacs, and it seems that it does not work with
TextExpander, nor with LaunchBar's clipboard history. When I try to use them nothing gets inserted.

(The most recent versions of) Aquamacs contains code to specifically address this problem.

If you find that Aquamacs makes some improvements to Emacs that you dislike, this Wiki page may identify
settings to undo these.

http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/AquamacsEmacsCompatibilitySettings

Perhaps that will help you with the dilemma.

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Alan Schmitt | 3 Dec 2011 20:52

Re: TextExpander with Emacs for Mac OS X

On 3 déc. 2011, at 20:03, David Reitter wrote:

> On Dec 3, 2011, at 11:24 AM, Alan Schmitt wrote:
>> 
>> I'm trying Emacs for Mac OS X, switching from Aquamacs, and it seems that it does not work with
TextExpander, nor with LaunchBar's clipboard history. When I try to use them nothing gets inserted.
> 
> (The most recent versions of) Aquamacs contains code to specifically address this problem.
> 
> If you find that Aquamacs makes some improvements to Emacs that you dislike, this Wiki page may identify
settings to undo these.
> 
> http://www.emacswiki.org/emacs/AquamacsEmacsCompatibilitySettings
> 
> Perhaps that will help you with the dilemma.

Hi David,

First of all I would like to apologize: I should have been more tactful when saying "switching from
Aquamacs". I am really grateful for the work you've done and I find that Aquamacs integration with OS X is
great. But with my recent troubles with binding "C-x C-r", I thought I would try another approach: start
with plain Emacs and use the prelude configuration (https://github.com/bbatsov/emacs-prelude),
which includes many things I use (such as magit or deft). As you can see, I'm discovering the cost of this approach.

So I guess my question is: is there a way to use Aquamacs with prelude? Or, in other words, can I compile a
version of Aquamacs that only has the OS X integration, with no extra package (which I would get from prelude)?

Thanks,

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Christian Lynbech | 6 Dec 2011 15:41
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Re: Multiple monitor primitives

>>>>> "Rodney" == Rodney Sparapani <rsparapa <at> mcw.edu> writes:

Rodney> Has anyone played around with emacs primitives for multiple monitors?

Intriguing, what primitives ae we talking about?

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Rodney Sparapani | 6 Dec 2011 15:46
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Re: Multiple monitor primitives

Christian Lynbech wrote:
>>>>>> "Rodney" == Rodney Sparapani <rsparapa <at> mcw.edu> writes:
> 
> Rodney> Has anyone played around with emacs primitives for multiple monitors?
> 
> Intriguing, what primitives ae we talking about?
> 

Hi Christian:

Well, I don't know what's out there, so that's why I am asking.
Other things that I'd like to see...  Some frame buffers (I mean
that in the video card and/or X11 sense rather than emacs lingo)
are split across 2 monitors.  Emacs notices this, probably from
hinting from the window manager.  So, it seems like it might be
quite easy to open a new frame on the opposite monitor.

Rodney

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David Reitter | 6 Dec 2011 16:25
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Re: Multiple monitor primitives

On Dec 6, 2011, at 9:46 AM, Rodney Sparapani wrote:
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> Well, I don't know what's out there, so that's why I am asking.
> Other things that I'd like to see...  Some frame buffers (I mean
> that in the video card and/or X11 sense rather than emacs lingo)
> are split across 2 monitors.  Emacs notices this, probably from
> hinting from the window manager.  

Well, the way you put it, applications would interact with the periphery at a pretty low level.  That is not
the case.

> So, it seems like it might be
> quite easy to open a new frame on the opposite monitor.

It's a continuous coordinate system, with 0,0 being the top left (or was it top bottom?) of the main screen
(the one where the menu bar is).   You can simply specify 'top and 'left with pixel values as frame parameters
for the new frame, and it will open in the desired position.

Aquamacs also has Emacs functions that will tell you the available screen areas (excluding the Dock, etc) -
see `display-usable-bounds'.  You need to identify the screen via an existing frame handle, though.  See
also `display-screens'

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Marinos Koutsomichalis | 14 Dec 2011 19:13

aquatics exec-path weirdness

Hi there

afaic exec-path inherits the contents of PATH at aquatics

I' m using 'sclang to hook supercollider on emacs so 

now when I 

(setenv "PATH" (concat (getenv "PATH") ":/Applications/SuperCollider:~/.sclang"))
(setq exec-path (append exec-path '("/Applications/SuperCollider" "~/.sclang")))
(require 'sclang)

it does start sclang but weirdly enough

(getenv "exec-path") returns nil 

and the supercollider libraries (found on the path) are unaccessible.. 

this however

(setenv "PATH" (concat (getenv "PATH") ":/Applications/SuperCollider:~/.sclang"))
(require 'sclang)

just crashes Aquamacs…

????
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Marinos Koutsomichalis | 14 Dec 2011 19:32

Re: aquaMAcs exec-path weirdness

of course it is aquamacs and not 'aquatics' as my 'smart' spellchecker believes…

m

On Dec 14, 2011, at 8:13 PM, Marinos Koutsomichalis wrote:

> Hi there
> 
> afaic exec-path inherits the contents of PATH at aquatics
> 
> 
> I' m using 'sclang to hook supercollider on emacs so 
> 
> now when I 
> 
> (setenv "PATH" (concat (getenv "PATH") ":/Applications/SuperCollider:~/.sclang"))
> (setq exec-path (append exec-path '("/Applications/SuperCollider" "~/.sclang")))
> (require 'sclang)
> 
> it does start sclang but weirdly enough
> 
> (getenv "exec-path") returns nil 
> 
> and the supercollider libraries (found on the path) are unaccessible.. 
> 
> this however
> 
> (setenv "PATH" (concat (getenv "PATH") ":/Applications/SuperCollider:~/.sclang"))
> (require 'sclang)
> 
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David Reitter | 14 Dec 2011 21:14
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Re: aquatics exec-path weirdness

On Dec 14, 2011, at 7:13 PM, Marinos Koutsomichalis wrote:
> 

> (setenv "PATH" (concat (getenv "PATH") ":/Applications/SuperCollider:~/.sclang"))
> (require 'sclang)

Could you file a bug report containing everything (and if possible, only) what is needed to reproduce the bug?
I have seen your crash report, but I need the full information to reproduce the problem (if it is replicable
for you, that is).

Thanks.

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Richard Cobbe | 19 Dec 2011 04:04
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Rendering Devanagari (Unicode) correctly?

This is something that's been bugging me for a while:

What do I need to do in order to render Devanagari text correctly in Emacs
on OS X?

I'm running Emacs as installed from http://emacsformacosx.com/, latest
version (emacs-version says 23.3.1).  Unfortunately, it does a lousy job of
rendering Unicode text that uses Devanagari characters (primarily Unicode
range 0900-097f).  I have the right fonts installed, so the letter forms
show up, but the (admittedly rather complex) rules for rendering text using
these characters aren't followed, so the result isn't particularly useful.

I've attached four small files to show what I mean:

  - devanagari-utf8.txt: a very short text in the Devanagari script

  - devanagari-textedit.png: a screen shot of how this file appears when I
    open it in Apple's TextEdit.app (OS X 10.6.8, all updates applied).
    This the correct rendering.

  - devanagari-osx.png: a screen shot of how the file appears when I open
    it in Emacs for OS X (started with the -q switch, so no configuration
    files, although I get the same results with my normal .emacs file).
    The details of the differences are not likely to be meaningful to
    anyone not familiar with the script, so I won't bore you with details
    -- but notice in particular that this screen shot has downward slashes
    under a couple of the letters, whereas the other screenshots turn the
    neighboring glyphs into ligatures, and Emacs also gets the order of the
    last two glyphs backwards.

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