David Kastrup | 2 May 2004 11:08
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CVS access change


The CVS server for our project is no longer
cvs.preview-latex.sourceforge.net but cvs.sourceforge.net

M-x find-grep-dired RET /whatever/preview RET -name Root RET
should get you all the files, marking them with m is simple, then
Q does a query-replace-regexp on all of them.  Replace
\.preview-latex with an empty string and you should be set.

Well, after you did
slogin cvs.sourceforge.net

and have acknowledged the DSA key of the host (the login will fail
afterwards, just press C-c after acknowledging it).

Which should probably have the fingerprint
02:ab:7c:aa:49:ed:0b:a8:50:13:10:c2:3e:92:0f:42

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Angus Leeming | 2 May 2004 11:19
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Re: CVS access change

David Kastrup wrote:
> The CVS server for our project is no longer
> cvs.preview-latex.sourceforge.net but cvs.sourceforge.net

But anoncvs is unchanged as:

:pserver:anonymous <at> cvs.sourceforge.net:/cvsroot/preview-latex

? Seems so, anyway.

Angus

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David Kastrup | 2 May 2004 11:33
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Presentation problems...


Just had a bit of a "nothing works" experience at a demonstration at
the BachoTeX conference.  Well, one presentation problem was that I
had a customized setting of preview-required-option-list without
tightpage in it.  Erasing customization did the trick.

Now just don't ask me how I have tested and worked with that
customization for so long without problems.  Crazy.  No idea how this
survived.

Anyway, this made me think again about default values.  What do you
think: should the "counters" option be active by default?  It makes
the TeX run slower, but it deals with a frequently voiced complaint
(which I tended to label as "silly" until I got sick of the
complaints).  In the line of "keep people quiet if they don't bother
reading the manual" we could enable it, then tell people to switch it
off under "speed enhancements" in "Easy Customizations".  An obvious
contender for that category would be enabling dvipng operation.

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David Kastrup | 2 May 2004 11:36
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Re: Re: CVS access change

Angus Leeming <leeming <at> lyx.org> writes:

> David Kastrup wrote:
> > The CVS server for our project is no longer
> > cvs.preview-latex.sourceforge.net but cvs.sourceforge.net
> 
> But anoncvs is unchanged as:
> 
> :pserver:anonymous <at> cvs.sourceforge.net:/cvsroot/preview-latex
> 
> ? Seems so, anyway.

Yes, that should be ok.  They just put up a notice on the CVS site
that they can't do cvs.*.sourceforge.net names anymore because of a
BIND update.

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Jan-Åke Larsson | 2 May 2004 17:01
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Re: Any objections about copying gs startup to the run buffer?

David Kastrup wrote:
> I forgot whether there was a particular reason for that.  Ok, it is
> rather verbose...  But that's not really a problem, right?

Speed? Emacs buffer display is slow. I'd remind you that you cut
execution time down really much by doing brief reporting from
preview.el, but you probably remember that.

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David Kastrup | 2 May 2004 20:01
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Re: Any objections about copying gs startup to the run buffer?

Jan-Åke Larsson <jalar <at> mai.liu.se> writes:

> David Kastrup wrote:
> > I forgot whether there was a particular reason for that.  Ok, it is
> > rather verbose...  But that's not really a problem, right?
> 
> Speed? Emacs buffer display is slow. I'd remind you that you cut
> execution time down really much by doing brief reporting from
> preview.el, but you probably remember that.

I am just talking one-time messages per document, not messages per
snippet.  And the execution time was not sped up becuase of Emacs
being slow inserting stuff into buffers, but because of Emacs being
slow to accept (and code-convert) process output and switching
buffers with all complications.

Hey, don't teach me about efficiency.  If there is somebody more
paranoid than I am about those issues than I am, I want him taken out
and shot immediately.  He will block development more seriously than
even I manage to do.

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Jan-Åke Larsson | 2 May 2004 21:20
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Re: Any objections about copying gs startup to the run buffer?

> I am just talking one-time messages per document, not messages per
> snippet.  And the execution time was not sped up becuase of Emacs
> being slow inserting stuff into buffers, but because of Emacs being
> slow to accept (and code-convert) process output and switching
> buffers with all complications.

OK. I'll just note that dvipng execution time was 30% shorter without
chatter about produced pages on stdout in gnome-terminal which is
abysmally slow.

> Hey, don't teach me about efficiency.  If there is somebody more
> paranoid than I am about those issues than I am, I want him taken out
> and shot immediately. 

Oups. I'll be silent 8^)

/JÅ

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David Kastrup | 2 May 2004 21:28
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Re: Any objections about copying gs startup to the run buffer?

Jan-Åke Larsson <jalar <at> mai.liu.se> writes:

> > I am just talking one-time messages per document, not messages per
> > snippet.  And the execution time was not sped up becuase of Emacs
> > being slow inserting stuff into buffers, but because of Emacs being
> > slow to accept (and code-convert) process output and switching
> > buffers with all complications.
> 
> OK. I'll just note that dvipng execution time was 30% shorter without
> chatter about produced pages on stdout in gnome-terminal which is
> abysmally slow.

For a single message at the end of the run?  Impressive.

Apropos chatter: dvipng complains about Source Specials.  Before I
release a preview-latex with -skip-image-on-warn or what it was
called, it better be silent about them.  Same thing with PostScript
_header_ specials (as I already said), though the consequences of that
are less awful: typically, they will only cause the first image to
fail.

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Jan-Åke Larsson | 2 May 2004 23:48
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Re: Any objections about copying gs startup to the run buffer?

David Kastrup wrote:
> Apropos chatter: dvipng complains about Source Specials.  Before I
> release a preview-latex with -skip-image-on-warn or what it was
> called, it better be silent about them.  Same thing with PostScript
> _header_ specials (as I already said), though the consequences of that
> are less awful: typically, they will only cause the first image to
> fail.

Agreed. On TODO.
/JÅ

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Jan-Åke Larsson | 2 May 2004 23:53
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T1lib support in dvipng

There is now t1lib support in CVS dvipng. If you have FreeType, you
will probably not notice anything as FreeType is preferred internally
in dvipng. T1lib is included in teTeX, so more people will have direct
T1 rendering from now on. Try it out, please.

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