JDEE, CEDET and Maven Util

JDEE now uses the version of CEDET that ships with Emacs 23.2.  This  
is only applied to Emacs 23.  Previous versions of Emacs should be  
functionally the same as before the change.

I've backed out the jde-maven-util source code and respective libs  
I've added as someone had mentioned had brought up the nice plugin  
Epsen Wilborg has written.  I've asked him to relicense this is GNU  
and he has, which makes it a plugin we can now ship with the source  
code.  I'll be adding this shortly.

All of these changes have been made on the trunk.  I'll be adding his  
plugin on the truck as well.

Thanks Epsen!

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Re: jdee and jdibug

Troy Daniels <udalrich.schermer <at> gmail.com> writes:

> 2010/5/23 Przemysław Wojnowski <esperanto <at> cumego.com>
>
>     Hi.
>     Maybe i'm missing something, but, at least for me, it would be nice to
>     be able to start jdibug easly (from jdee mode). Simple use case is that
>     user is developping some class, sets breakpoint and wants to start app
>     in debug mode to debug current method. Is there a simple way to do it in
>     jdibug? IMHO this is the most common use case.
>
> It's fairly straightforward to do this, but more complex than with JDEbug or the jdb interface.  You have
to configure JDEE to include parameters to act as a server for a
> debugger connection.  (That only needs to be done once.)  Then you run your program (C-c C-v C-r), wait
for it to start and connect (C-c C-c C-c).  That's slightly more
> complicated than the built-in method (C-c C-v C-d) but not overly complicated. 
>
> It looks like I could tie in with the built-in method by defining a debugger class for JDIbug (assuming
there was an option to select that instead of just JDEbug and
> jdb).
>
> Troy

Hi Troy, 

Thanks for maintaining jdibug. I have been a jdibug users for a
while. Jdibug was one of the reasons that I could use emacs as Java IDE
instead of Eclipse.

I am developing J2EE web application, debug information is configured
in application server. So the configuration for using jdibug is pretty
simple for me, just set jdibug-connect-hosts.

But the configuration is not that straight forward for even debug a
simple HelloWorld java class. If jdibug can provide a simple interface
for configuration and start debugger, it will encourage more users to
give a try. For example, just provide a simple function to set up
vm-args, run program and start debugger. 

Regards, 
Lei

>  
>
>     If it could be started more easly, then it would have a bigger user
>     base.
>    
>     Regards,
>     Przemek
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Re: [jdee-users] Access to SourceForge, and Open Source issues

Looks like SF doesn't have much of a choice--this is an issue with the  
US foreign policy, not FS:

   http://sourceforge.net/blog/clarifying-sourceforgenets-denial-of-site-access-for-certain-persons-in-accordance-with-us-law/

I disagree that it's a any developer's obligation to engage in  
politics of this sort even though I agree it should be available to  
everyone per the OSI language and ethos.  I imagine if SF stuck to  
their guns and kept it open they'd eventually be shut down like  
everyone else who would allow downloads from US soil.

I'd be willing to look at other sites that offer free hosting of the  
project but I wouldn't want any impact to the project itself.

Do you recommend any others that don't have this policy?  Can we start  
mirroring?

I really don't much about the details of the distribution side of  
things.  Do others?

On Jun 4, 2010, at 10:54 PM, Mansour Al Akeel wrote:

> Hello All:
>
> During my visit to Syria, I needed to download JDEE. I was surprised  
> to
> find out that SourceForge is controlling the distribution of  
> opensource
> projects by banning specific countries from accessing their contents.
> After googling, I found these links:
>
> http://www.downloadsquad.com/2010/01/25/sourceforge-blocks-iran-north-korea-syria-sudan-and-cuba/
>
> http://arabcrunch.com/2010/01/following-clintons-internet-freedom-speech-us-based-sourceforge-blocked-syria-sudan-iran-korea-cuba-is-open-source-still-really-open.html
>
> I understand this is not the best issue to be raised on a public  
> user help mailing list, however, if I was an open source developer,  
> I am morally obligated to take some action to make sure this  
> software is available for everyone without discrimination. IT  
> professionals who develop, report bugs, use, help or document, are  
> contributors as well and they have the same rights to this software  
> like everybody else.
> SourceForge and googlecode are violating the terms of open source.
> Please help the open source to remain open.
>
> Thank you.
>
>
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Re: [jdee-users] Access to SourceForge, and Open Source issues

Probably worth mentioning that this should not be done by an American,
in case they are breaking the same laws. I am not sure where savannah is
hosted -- it may fall under the same law in time.

It's an interesting question whether this puts all American's in
violation of GPL. I guess FSF would have an opinion.

Phil

Jason McBrayer <jmcbray <at> carcosa.net> writes:
> Probably a mirror on github or bitbucket would minimally do the trick.  If
> you wanted to move project hosting, savannah.nongnu.org might be possible.

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Re: jdee and jdibug

Troy Daniels <udalrich.schermer <at> gmail.com> writes:

Thanks for implementing it.

I have version from repository, had a few minutes to play with it:
1. It would be nice if jdibug-run-main-class could be calculated in
run-time when not set and use class from current buffer in such case.

2. IMHO Jdibug could build classpath like jde-db-classpath-arg does.

Hope it helps. 
In a day or two I will have more time to try it.

Regards,
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Re: [jdee-users] Access to SourceForge, and Open Source issues

On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 4:02 PM, Phillip Lord
<phillip.lord <at> newcastle.ac.uk> wrote:
>
> Probably worth mentioning that this should not be done by an American,
> in case they are breaking the same laws. I am not sure where savannah is
> hosted -- it may fall under the same law in time.

Someone mentioned that Launchpad is in GB.

Launchpad also uses bazaar which is what Emacs uses as its main vcs.
(It looks like bazaar has got more negative critique then it deserves.
It is fast on Launchpad for most operations since it uses something
called "fast server".)

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Re: [jdee-users] Access to SourceForge, and Open Source issues

Absolutely agree with Philip.

Lennart: Thanks for pointing this out.  I'll add this to the list.

What I'd really like is a second place to upload the code or hand it  
off to someone else as Philip mentioned.

On Jun 7, 2010, at 10:19 PM, Lennart Borgman wrote:

> On Mon, Jun 7, 2010 at 4:02 PM, Phillip Lord
> <phillip.lord <at> newcastle.ac.uk> wrote:
>>
>> Probably worth mentioning that this should not be done by an  
>> American,
>> in case they are breaking the same laws. I am not sure where  
>> savannah is
>> hosted -- it may fall under the same law in time.
>
>
> Someone mentioned that Launchpad is in GB.
>
> Launchpad also uses bazaar which is what Emacs uses as its main vcs.
> (It looks like bazaar has got more negative critique then it deserves.
> It is fast on Launchpad for most operations since it uses something
> called "fast server".)
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