Dirk Gerrits | 1 Oct 09:24 2004

Re: Couple of (configuration?) problems.

Tim McNamara <timmcn <at> bitstream.net> writes:

> Dirk Gerrits <dirk <at> dirkgerrits.com> writes:
>> 2.  My ISP and my university both provide me with newsgroups, but they
>>      both restrict it to IP addresses on their network.  So with my
>>      laptop plugged in back home, I can access news.chello.nl, but not
>>      news.tue.nl, and plugged in at the university it's the other way
>>      around.  Can I somehow configure Gnus for this situation?  I'd like
>>      Gnus to try news.tue.nl first, and then fall-back to news.chello.nl.
>>      And, ideally, I'd like it to have the same set of subscribed
>>      newsgroup and read articles on both news servers.  Can Gnus do this?
>>      Or do you know of something else I could do?
> Yes, Gnus can do this, if you tell it to in your .gnus file.  From the
> http://my.gnus.org Web site (under "Fundamental Configuration:"


> So, in your case, "news.tue.nl" would replace "foo.bar.com" and
> "news.chello.nl" would replace "localhost" and you'd just leave the
> next line off, unless you wanted to use "new.gnus.org" also.  If your
> news servers need authentication, you can set up an .authinfo file
> with the necessary information- this is discussed at my.gnus.org:
> http://my.gnus.org/tutorial/Fundamental-Configuration.html#Fundamental%20Configuration

I think I wasn't clear enough.  The problem with the approach you're
suggesting is that I'd have to have all newsgroups in duplicate.  For
example I'd have both nntp+news.chello.nl:gnu.emacs.gnus and
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Sebastien Kirche | 1 Oct 10:05 2004

Re: How to use Maildir for everything? How to duplicate behaviour of mutt?

Le 30 Sep 2004, Juhapekka Tolvanen a dit :

> I tried first a software called mb2md, but it was really buggy:
> http://batleth.sapienti-sat.org/projects/mb2md/
> If you know how to fix it, please do it. Meanwhile I can use that script
> called mbox2maildir . I don't remember how I found it.

Did you tried Gnus itself to convert your messages ?
- create a nnmb backend group to access the existing mailbox
- create a nnmaildir backend group where to place the converted mails (maybe
  the one you have already)

- mark the messages (M P R RET) in the nnmb group
- move them to the nnmaildir (B m)

Sébastien Kirche

Don Saklad | 1 Oct 10:35 2004

Re: How to set up gnus email for novices with little mastery.

The difficulty with dotfiles is presuming that novice users with no
mastery can set up the code in the dotfile easily.

For those with mastery what is really needed is an automatic set up
type of thing requiring no previous experience. The limits of
knowledge for those with mastery extends to not being able to make
it ever easier and straight forward.

Simon Kellett | 1 Oct 22:23 2004

Controlling what groups show in the group buffer

I am trying to fine tune my Gnus setup and have a few questions !!

I know that I can use "l" and "L" but can I fine tune what groups are
visible with the "l" (gnus-group-list-groups): specifically I would
like to have the option to only see those groups that have some
*unseen* articles.

Also could I set "l" to NOT show those groups with only marked

Ideally I would have a single key that would role around:
- all groups
- groups with some new and/or unseen articles
- groups with only unseen articles
- back to all groups

TIA, Simon


Gentoo Linux, Fvwm, Firefox        |            Xemacs, Vm, Gnus
Simon Kellett, Darmstadt, Germany  |  http://home.arcor.de/zoxed

Miles Bader | 2 Oct 01:19 2004

Re: Fatal error (11). Emacs/ Linux hosed my very long document.

"Stephen J. Turnbull" <stephen <at> xemacs.org> writes:
> Oh, so you were being a jerk intentionally?  That's OK then, everybody
> has days like that.

"Not obeying linux troll's headers" == "jerk"??

I think you need to get out more Stephen...


Quidquid latine dictum sit, altum viditur.

Stephen J. Turnbull | 2 Oct 08:58 2004

Re: Fatal error (11). Emacs/ Linux hosed my very long document.

>>>>> "Miles" == Miles Bader <miles <at> gnu.org> writes:

    Miles> "Stephen J. Turnbull" <stephen <at> xemacs.org> writes:

    >> Oh, so you were being a jerk intentionally?  That's OK then,
    >> everybody has days like that.

    Miles> "Not obeying linux troll's headers" == "jerk"??

Not only did you obey them the first time, but now you're deliberately
ignoring FUT to reset them to the troll's?  Maybe you're not Miles at
all!  If so, my apologies to the real Miles for being taken in.  :-)


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Pierre-Charles David | 2 Oct 16:22 2004

nnml "connection" denied

Hi. I can't seem to get nnml working. I'm using Emacs 21.3 with Gnus
5.10.6 from Debian unstable. Here's my ~/.gnus.el:

| (setq gnus-directory (expand-file-name "~/.news") ; Also set in ~/.emacs
|       gnus-dribble-directory (expand-file-name "~/tmp")
|       gnus-agent nil) ; Don't need it; permanent DSL connection.
| (setq gnus-select-method '(nntp "news.wanadoo.fr"))
| (setq gnus-secondary-select-methods '((nntp "news.eclipse.org")))
| (setq mail-sources '((file :path "/var/spool/mail/pcdavid")))
| (add-to-list 'gnus-secondary-select-methods
|              '(nnml "" (nnml-directory (expand-file-name "~/mail"))))
| (setq nnmail-split-methods '(("inbox" "")))

As you see from this post, the news servers work, but I can't get my
mail. Outside of Gnus, it works fine: I use fetchmail to get it from
my ISP, and exim4 for local delivery and sending through my ISP's SMTP

In the servers buffer, Gnus tells me that the nnml server status is
"denied". I've read the tutorial and the manual, and I don't see the
difference between what their examples and my setup. What am I doing

Thanks in advance.
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Harry Putnam | 2 Oct 19:11 2004

Re: bogofilter behavior

Sorry to butt in here but Reiner seems to be an experienced bogofilter
user.  I could use a little more coacing if you want to reply off
line.  Or here if it seems suitable.

I'm not even using bogo in gnus so really off topic... BUT:

$ bogofilter --version
bogofilter version 0.92.2.cvs

I run it from procmail, and just a really simple setup.  Anything
ending up in bogo_spam that is not spam, I've written a really simple
bash function to run it thru again from the command line.
(wrapped for mail)
  bogos () \
  { cd /home/reader/Mail/bogo_spam;bogofilter -vvv -Sn <"$1";cd-; }

Where $1 is taken from the status line in gnus that shows the
file name.

This seems to not really do anything.  Certain kinds of messages have
shown up in bogospam repeatedly.  An example might be the autoresponse
things that gmane sends out.

I've run at least a 2 dozen and more back thru bogo but still they land
in bogo_spam.  Seems like bogofilter is not learning anything from the

Johan Bockgård | 2 Oct 22:41 2004

Re: Controlling what groups show in the group buffer

Simon Kellett <zoxed_p <at> arcor.de> writes:

> Also could I set "l" to NOT show those groups with only marked
> articles.



Johan Bockgård

Reiner Steib | 3 Oct 17:45 2004

Re: bogofilter behavior

On Sat, Oct 02 2004, Harry Putnam wrote:

> Sorry to butt in here but Reiner seems to be an experienced bogofilter
> user.  

As my provider provides the setup described in (info "(gnus)Spam ELisp
Package Configuration Examples"), I wouldn't even have to know that
bogofilter is running behind the scene.  It just works for me.  Please
ask on the bogofilter list (aka gmane.mail.bogofilter.general).

Bye, Reiner.

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