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Floyd L. Davidson | 1 Mar 2004 07:32

Re: Persuade me to use gnus (please)

Yeechang Lee <ylee <at> pobox.com> wrote:

>  speed difference does not matter much in many contexts, it's quite
>  noticeable at certain times, such as when entering a newsgroup with
>  more than a few thousand unread messages.

...

>  solution a) also means that I will not be able to read mail while
>  emacs is, say, pulling in a five thousand-message group.

I'm curious, do you often want to access 5000 messages?

I can't imagine doing that over a network link (granted, I have
a modem connection, not a high speed one) as opposed to using
google to sort them and supply me with a shorter list.

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Cor Gest | 1 Mar 2004 13:26
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Re: Persuade me to use gnus (please)

Some hopefully ableminded and witty human entity
disguising itself as: floyd <at> barrow.com (Floyd L. Davidson) wrote :

> Yeechang Lee <ylee <at> pobox.com> wrote:
> 
> >  speed difference does not matter much in many contexts, it's quite
> >  noticeable at certain times, such as when entering a newsgroup with
> >  more than a few thousand unread messages.

> >  solution a) also means that I will not be able to read mail while
> >  emacs is, say, pulling in a five thousand-message group.

You can if gnus is operated in agent-mode.

> I can't imagine doing that over a network link (granted, I have
> a modem connection, not a high speed one) as opposed to using
> google to sort them and supply me with a shorter list.

That is what agent-mode was invented for,
it only gets header-info, you tick wanted mesgs, and all others will be
set 'read'.

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Ted Zlatanov | 1 Mar 2004 19:17
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Re: My functions for reporting spam and ham to spamassassin and crm114

On Mon, 01 Mar 2004, hubert <at> uhoreg.ca wrote:

>>>>>> "Eugene" == Eugene Morozov <kaede.news <at> online.ru> writes:
> 
> Eugene> Hello!  I wrote this code because I'm also using crm114 in
> Eugene> addition to SpamAssassin and I also wanted to increase
> Eugene> accuracy by removing extra headers. Maybe these functions
> Eugene> will also be useful to someone besides me.

> But it might be a good idea to strip extra headers (if any) that the
> filters add before spam/ham gets sent to the processor functions.
> Comments, Ted?  

I don't know CRM114 well, but I would suggest requesting this feature
from the developers instead of trying to fix it at the MUA.  If CRM114
supports a command-line switch to exclude headers from analysis, I'll
gladly add that to a CRM114 spam.el backend if such a thing should
materialize.

(by the way: I have not needed any new spam.el backends, but if anyone
needs DSpam or CRM114 or whatever else added, let me know)

> We would probably want to have a set of functions like
> "spam-spamassassin-strip-headers", etc. to do this.  Or a variable
> "spam-spamassassin-headers-regexp" that is a regexp to match
> SpamAssassin headers that should be removed.

The problem is that we can't modify the article, so we have to make a
temporary copy and rewrite that, which can be expensive depending on
the article size.  It would really be much cleaner if CRM114 could be
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Jørn Helge B. Dahl | 1 Mar 2004 23:03
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Re: mail tweak request

* Windar <windarSPAMSUCKS <at> ferraro.net>

> Now the  only thing that  the posting styles  permit us to do  for the
> moment are when replying a  mail/news or when already being "inside" a
> newsgroup. But  when we want to write  a new mail by  pressing the 'm'
> key while  in the Group buffer,  the generated header  has the default
> values.
>
> How can  I decide which e-mail address  I want to be  displayed in the
> "To" headeer when writing a totally new mail ?

Use 'C-u m' with point on the group you want to use the posting-style
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Windar | 1 Mar 2004 23:49
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Re: mail tweak request

bojohan+news <at> dd.chalmers.se (Johan Bockgård) disait le 03/01/04 :

> Windar <windarSPAMSUCKS <at> ferraro.net> writes:
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>> Now the only thing that the posting styles permit us to do for the
>> moment are when replying a mail/news or when already being "inside"
>> a newsgroup. But when we want to write a new mail by pressing the
>> 'm' key while in the Group buffer, the generated header has the
>> default values.
>
> Read `C-h k m'

m runs the command gnus-group-mail
   which is an interactive compiled Lisp function in `gnus-msg'.
It is bound to m, <menu-bar> <gnus> <send a mail>.
(gnus-group-mail &optional ARG)

Start composing a mail.
If ARG, use the group under the point to find a posting style.
If ARG is 1, prompt for a group name to find the posting style.

ok, so pressing '1' then 'm' gives me a choice...

and what if  no group corresponds to the posting styles  I want for my
mail ?

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johnsu01 | 2 Mar 2004 08:08

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Marcus Frings <iam-est-hora-surgere <at> despammed.com> writes:

> * johnsu01 <x <at> x.x> wrote:
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>> Why is it that when I hit "g" to get all the new messages, Gnus
>> doesn't actually check for new mail? I have to go to each individual
>> group and hit alt-g in order to get the new messages for that group. I
>> am just using it to read email, using nnml as a backend. The mail is
>> brought in from my /var/mail spool. The new mail indicator seems to be
>> working properly. Any ideas what variable I have to define or setting
>> I have to change? I can't figure out what I have done differently in
>> this gnus setup from what I have done in others.
>
> <http://groups.google.de/groups?hl=de&lr=&ie=UTF-8&oe=UTF-8&selm=vita-brevis-breviter-in-brevi-finietur-mors-venit-velociter-quae-neminem-veretur-87wu7odgf7.fsf%40gothgoose.net&rnum=3>
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> Regards,
> Marcus
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My German is not very good.

The link didn't work. Brought up a Google error message (auf
Deutsch). 

But, I solved the problem by changing the names of my mail groups to
remove the nnml: from them. After that, no problem.
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Don Saklad | 2 Mar 2004 10:07
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How to pull together a GNU/Linux computer, that is a computer that actually works as opposed to the claims for commercial desktops.

What would you folks out there use in pulling together a GNU/Linux
computer?...

hardware?...

software?...

...?

The computer would be used for a lot of text type processing and
related text type chart layouts, web browsing including the most
complex of web sites with the most extravagant of web sites
features. The computer would not be used for gaming.

A good friend of mine advocates for GNU/Linux with the greatest zeal.
Offering to pull together a computer that actually works as opposed to
the usual commercial desktop systems, my friend does not answer
questions about what hardware would be used as of this point in time.
The idea being that when the computer works there would be no
questions because one would be attending to the actual uses of the
computer. The argument fails because end uses will and do ask
questions. Naive questions should be answered regardless.
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ddian2 | 2 Mar 2004 11:52
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Thanks a lot,
It works now... 

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Jesse F. Hughes | 2 Mar 2004 11:52
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Re: Persuade me to use gnus (please)

Marcus Frings <iam-est-hora-surgere <at> despammed.com> writes:

> * bojohan+news <at> dd.chalmers.se (Johan Bockgård) wrote:
>> Yeechang Lee <ylee <at> pobox.com> writes:
>
>>> * Miscellaneous issues, such as the far superior slrn thread tree.
>
>> What is that?
>
> I had been using slrn as well before I switched to Gnus but probably
> Johan isn't aware of the really nice Unicode thread tree which is
> possible with Gnus 5.10.x.
>
> Just compare <http://slrn.sourceforge.net/pictures.html> and
> <http://my.gnus.org/node/view/22>.

That looks pretty damn slick.  Where do I learn to do that?

Sorry if the answer's obvious.  I don't seem to be adept at navigating
my.gnus.org.
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Windar | 2 Mar 2004 17:38
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Re: mail tweak request

Glyn Millington <wistanswick <at> linuxmail.org> disait le 03/02/04 :

> Windar <windarSPAMSUCKS <at> ferraro.net> writes:
>
>> and what if  no group corresponds to the posting styles  I want for my
>> mail ?
>
> What you need, brother, is gnus-pers.el
>
>
> ,----
> | gnus-pers implements personalities for Message mode. It allows you to
> | define a personality with any e-mail address, extra headers and signature
> | you like, either as strings, functions or variables (signatures may also
> | be files). Then it will chose a personality for you based on header info,
> | gnus-newsgroup-name or group parameter. Additionally, you can change a
> | personality in the middle of writing a message. This is intended to be an
> | alternative to gnus-posting-styles, which only sets personalities
> | (posting styles) based on which group you are in. Also,
> | gnus-posting-styles must be defined by editing a your .gnus whereas
> | gnus-pers uses Xemacs customize facility.
> `----
>
> http://www.comsecmilnavpac.net/elisp/gnus-pers.el
>
> Have fun!

Thanks, I'll look into that

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