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pd | 1 Sep 2002 01:59
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Re: Upgrading to Oort?


"lawrence mitchell" <wence <at> gmx.li> wrote in message
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> pd wrote:
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> [...] 5.8.x --> Oort
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> > 1) I'd like to know how Oort differs from 5.x, so I can estimate how
much
> > work it will take to modify my .gnus file, etc.  I gather that some
changes
> > are required, at least if I want to take advantage of the new features
of
> > Oort.
>
> Bug reports of things failing to work are always useful, since
> then, the developers can make sure that they won't fail once Oort
> is released.

Will do.

> > 2) I'm caught in a Windows world, so configure, etc. don't work for me.
>
> No problem, the gnus distribution comes with a make.bat, which
> may do what you need.  However, you most likely only really want
> to compile the gnus files:

<stuff deleted>

I did add the path, and compile the .el files.  I haven't worried about the
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Simon Josefsson | 1 Sep 2002 02:10

Re: smtp server

Wu XiaoGuang <woohsiaokuang <at> yahoo.com.cn> writes:

> 530 authentication required - for help go to http://help.yahoo.com/help/us/mail/pop/pop-11.html

You need a newer smtpmail.el that supports authentication, try
retrieving the one from Emacs CVS

http://savannah.gnu.org/cgi-bin/viewcvs/*checkout*/emacs/emacs/lisp/mail/smtpmail.el?rev=1.45

and read the comments.
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pd | 1 Sep 2002 02:30
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Re: Upgrading to Oort?


Well, it appears that the error I'm getting:

        Wrong number of arguments: gnus-continuum-version, 0

is *not* related to my code to customize the summary line.  I commented all
that out, and I'm still getting the error when I try to run gnus.  This is
under XEmacs 21.1.8 on Windows NT4.

Ideas?

Thanks,

-pd

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> "lawrence mitchell" <wence <at> gmx.li> wrote in message
> news:wkptw0ngzl.fsf <at> ID-97657.usr.dfncis.de...
> > pd wrote:
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> > [...] 5.8.x --> Oort

    [ ... ]

> > > 2) I'm caught in a Windows world, so configure, etc. don't work for
me.
> >
> > No problem, the gnus distribution comes with a make.bat, which
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Alex Schroeder | 1 Sep 2002 02:37
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Re: spam-stat.el -- filtering spam based on statistics as suggested by Paul Graham

Hm, I've been using it in my .gnus for a while now, and I get errors
in nnml-split-fancy when I use the following setup.  This setup does
some spam filtering beforehand, then it uses the BBDB to split, and
then at very end, I try to figure out wether the remaining mail should
go into mail.misc or mail.spam.  This is where I use the split 
(: spam-stat-split-fancy).  The errors, however, results in several mails
getting split into the bogus group.  Does anybody know what is wrong
with my code?  Suggestions as to debug it?  Maybe wrap the body of
spam-stat-split-fancy in a condition-case or something?
Perhaps this is related to some problems with cl.el specific functions
being used without a (require 'cl) in the file in Emacs?  At startup
that could mean that these functions fail, but after a while cl.el is
loaded and the error disappears?

Alex.

(setq nnmail-crosspost nil
      nnmail-split-methods 'nnmail-split-fancy
      bbdb/gnus-split-default-group nil
      bbdb/gnus-split-nomatch-function nil
      bbdb/gnus-split-myaddr-regexp gnus-ignored-from-addresses
      nnmail-expiry-wait 28
      gnus-total-expirable-newsgroups
      (regexp-opt '("mail.guile"
		    "mail.gnutella"
		    "mail.emacs.devel"
		    "mail.emacs.ilisp"
		    "mail.frieden.jetzt"
		    "mail.baeckeranlage"))
      nnmail-split-fancy
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Dave Duxbury | 1 Sep 2002 13:58

gnus-other-frame problems crashing Emacs

I'm having problems with Oort Gnus 0.08 (tarball from 28th August) and
GNU Emacs 21.2.1 on Windows XP.
If I launch with (gnus) everthing works fine, but (gnus-other-frame)
gives me the Lisp error:
Debugger entered--Lisp error: (error "Invalid display, not HOST:SERVER or HOST:SERVER.SCREEN")
  signal(error ("Invalid display, not HOST:SERVER or HOST:SERVER.SCREEN"))
  error("Invalid display, not HOST:SERVER or HOST:SERVER.SCREEN")
  make-frame-on-display("" nil)
  gnus-other-frame()
  eval((gnus-other-frame))
  eval-last-sexp-1(nil)
  eval-last-sexp(nil)
* call-interactively(eval-last-sexp)

Using (gnus-other-frame nil "0:0") initially appears to work - gnus starts in
a new frame - but then pressing 'q' and quitting gnus crashes Emacs.

-- Dave
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Eric Masson | 2 Sep 2002 12:34
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Re: Scoring on non-standard headers.

>>>>> "Emss" == Eric Masson <emss <at> free.fr> writes:

Follow up to myself for archives.

 Emss> Is there any hope to mix this approach and advanced scoring just
 Emss> like the following (approximative syntax):

It seems the following syntax has the desired effect :

 ((&
   ("head"
    "^X-Newsreader:.*Forte Free Agent" r)
   (&
    ("head"
     "^NNTP-Posting-Host:.*172\\." r)
    ("head"
     "^X-Complaints-To:.*abuse <at> proxad\\.net" r)))
  -100)

One more question then, the troll is using Aol for internet access, ARIN
database gives the following result for the netblock.

OrgName:    America Online                                        
OrgID:      AOL                                                   

NetRange:   172.128.0.0 - 172.191.255.255                         
CIDR:       172.128.0.0/10                                        
NetName:    AOL-172BLK                                            
NetHandle:  NET-172-128-0-0-1                                     
Parent:     NET-172-0-0-0-0
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Juha Autero | 2 Sep 2002 18:18
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Re: smtp server

Simon Josefsson <jas <at> extundo.com> writes:

> Wu XiaoGuang <woohsiaokuang <at> yahoo.com.cn> writes:
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>> RCPT TO: <xgwu <at> linux.net.cn>
>> 500 error in command
>
> I don't see any error in that command.  Is the server really working?

I don't think that you have to allow (white)space after "RCPT TO:". At
least RFC 2821 describes the syntax as: 
    "RCPT TO:" ("<Postmaster <at> " domain ">" / "<Postmaster>" / Forward-Path)
          [SP Rcpt-parameters] CRLF

--

-- 
Juha Autero
http://www.iki.fi/jautero/
Eschew obscurity!
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Claude Bouillin | 3 Sep 2002 08:20
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new newsgroups detection

Is it possible to have more than one default for the
gnus-select-method variable?

I actually find the new ngs detection feature very convenient and I'd
like to have it for more than one server, i.e. for foreign servers as
well, which does not seem to be the case. 

Unfortunately that variable does not seem to take more than one
server:

"This variable should be a list, where the first element is how the
news is to be fetched, the second is the address."

I set my gnus-check-new-newsgroups to ask-server

Is there a a way to do that?
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        Claude
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Ronald Fischer | 3 Sep 2002 12:00

Re: server connection broken - issue reconsidered, new info

Kai.Grossjohann <at> CS.Uni-Dortmund.DE (Kai Großjohann wrote in message news:<vafadn7fg8k.fsf <at> lucy.cs.uni-dortmund.de>...
> But I think it's pretty safe to say that if you haven't tried to set
> up this ssh thing, then Gnus will not do the ssh thing.

Well, this leaves as most likely explanation, that the News server itself
closes the connection after a period of inactivity.

I have now, thanks to the previous posts, the following near perfect solution,
that, if I see that Gnus "hangs", I hit a key which reopens the server. But
Netscape Messenger obviously does this automatically, so I would be interested
to know if I can teach this to Gnus too. In other words, is there a hook
which is executed before *every* access of the News server (but not for
gnus-close-server and gnus-check-server)? I could then call there my
function for re-opening the server, which currently looks like this
(simply copied over from the friendly soul who posted it in this ng):

(defun retry-news ()
        "Close news server then try to reopen every 30 seconds until connection 
        (interactive)
        (gnus-close-server gnus-current-select-method)
        (while (not (gnus-check-server)) (sleep-for 30) ))

Or is there a better way to achieve my goal?

Ronald
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Eric Boese-Wolf | 3 Sep 2002 12:07
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How to save an attachment ?

A newbie's question, how to save an attachment and how
can I handle multipart/alternative mail's with gnus?

The message is displayed correctly, but if I type
K o while the curser is placend on the reference to
the attachment it asks me where to store it and aborts
saying No buffer named multipart/alternative ?

I would be really pleased to get help!

Eric Böse-Wolf
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