Emanuel Berg | 21 Oct 05:56 2014

Re: adapt in SCORE file does not work logicaly

Stefan Huchler <stefan.huchler <at> mail.de> writes:

> btw scoring is better than killing and what u do,
> because u have no 0-1 switch but u can have
> different levels of output quality filters, as
> example hide thhreads that fall into several fitlers
> and have a really bad (low) value, u could even sort
> by value and see the one u are interested most first
> and so on.
> I am just tired to hit 50 times a day L s s p and L
> a e p (author exact permanenct) for every video,
> when I know it could happen more or less automaticly
> or by pressing only k for everthing I dont like.

Scoring is perhaps better than killing and what I do,
but this case doesn't show it because I never hit
anything, and certainly not a four-key combination, 50
times a day.

What you describe from scoring is some kind of
interactive scoring where you score what you like (and
dislike) in different ways.

I'm not interested in that kind of scoring, I'm
interested in me manually setting up rules and then
have Gnus doing the scoring based on those rules and
the input stream of messages, and then show me a
"transformation" of that stream, transparently.

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Christopher Culver | 20 Oct 04:23 2014

How to update mail groups only?

When I see the new mail notification in the Emacs mode line, I want to
be able to automatically update all the mail groups in Gnus, the same as
if I typed Alt+G manually for each mail group in the summary
buffer. Hitting G in the summary buffer is inconvenient, because it
updates all groups (including RSS feeds that are slow to download)
before it lets me get to my new mail.

Is there a way to update only mail groups?

Emanuel Berg | 20 Oct 00:14 2014

Re: adapt in SCORE file does not work logicaly

Stefan Huchler <stefan.huchler <at> mail.de> writes:

> thx for an answer!

This answer doesn't answer any of your questions, but
you are welcome nonetheless :)

There is a huge section in the Gnus manual on
scoring. Did you check that out?

For what reason do you want scoring?

If it is to block spammers and perhaps (f)lamers in
general, for mail, I managed to do that with
splitting, just split them to a spam group, then give
that group low priority so it won't even show.

For news, I have a KILL file. I just add addresses to
both. But to KILL isn't as good as splitting because
the to-be killed posts still show up in the group
buffer. It'll say "some.group 6" and you think, cool,
some interesting discussion, hit RET, and... turns
out, all six were KILL-ed.

I just feel it would be better to have a common
interface for splitting both news and mails and also
to have the plonkies in a textfile, i.e., not hard

Now I have the splitting hard-coded in an Elisp (.el)
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Stefan Huchler | 19 Oct 17:32 2014

adapt in SCORE file does not work logicaly

the adapt variable in score files which u can set to ignore/nil/t works
as far as I understand it as a group specific version of
gnus-use-adaptive-scoring which is the global version of it, right?

So u can activate gnus-use-adaptive-scoring globaly and with
adapt=ignore dont use adaptive scoring for this group, and the other way

So far that makes much sense to me, but score does not allow the value
word or (word).


1. question: how can I do activate word based adaptive scoring for one

2. question: it would be logical to either allow the value (word)
there. Do I have to quote it somehow or something?

If I press 2 in gnus-score-customize on the score value menu which
stands for lisp expression, it just ignores it, it does not ask me for a
lisp expression.

thx for an answer!

Emanuel Berg | 17 Oct 01:35 2014

Re: Which dark Color themes suitable for gnus?

Clemens Schüller <cs.mlists+info-gnus <at> mailbox.org>

>> I like my theme the best - screenshot:
>> http://user.it.uu.se/~embe8573/gnus/dumps/new/group.png
> Which theme is this?

It is not exactly a theme.

The reason it looks the way it looks in general is
because it is in a Linux VT (the ttys or "the console",
you get there often by hitting Ctrl-Alt-F1 - I don't
know if you know all this already so don't be angry if
you do). The font is Terminus 28x14. This is setup in
/etc/default/console-setup [1].

Then, Gnus looks a bit different (the group lines, and
the mode bar line) because of configuration. Mostly:

(setq gnus-group-line-format "%0{%L%}%3=%2{%2~(ignore \"0\")T%}%6=%G%30=%1{%6~(ignore
\"0\")y%}\n") ; group line
(setq gnus-group-mode-line-format "%M%: %S") ; mode line

but there is probably a thing or two apart from that
(in particular the definition of the faces mentioned in
the gnus-group-line-format), check out all my Gnus
config here: [2]

Then I setup all Emacs faces in one file to uphold the
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Damien Wyart | 16 Oct 13:32 2014

Re: Prevent Gnus from checking for news at startup?

* Paul Rankin <hello <at> paulwrankin.com> in gnu.emacs.gnus:
> How do I prevent Gnus from checking for new news at startup? Ideally
> just build the Group buffer then press `g' to connect.

For a one shot solution, you can start Gnus with gnus-no-server. If you
want to get this behaviour permanently, you should declare the primary
backend as nnil, and move your news server as a secondary backend, and
adjust its level so it doesn't gets checked at startup.


Paul Rankin | 16 Oct 12:24 2014

Prevent Gnus from checking for news at startup?

How do I prevent Gnus from checking for new news at startup? Ideally
just build the Group buffer then press `g' to connect.


Paul W. Rankin

Emanuel Berg | 12 Oct 20:36 2014

Re: Posting styles, identities... and my stupdity

asjo <at> koldfront.dk (Adam Sjøgren) writes:

> If all my friends use my work email-address and I
> get another job, it matters quite a lot.

Even so, you can tell your jobbmates to use your
private email. And then split it if you need to keep
order that way.

Isn't it better to have one "interface" to the outside
world and then solve all organization that matters to
you behind that interface?

That's the way I would like it but I can see
situations where it wouldn't do. For example people
who constantly speak on the phones when they work -
they get like hundreds of calls every day. Then I
would like a separate phone number for work as well.

> You can talk all you will about uniforms and content
> being the only thing that matters - if the email
> doesn't reach me, all that is besides the point.

Uniforms, ha ha :)


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Brady Trainor | 10 Oct 14:27 2014

Modify gnus alist in .gnus. Hook?

I managed to shorten the group name used in `gnus-group-line-format',
but not sure how to set it up for use in my .gnus.el. 

Either a hook or eval-after-load, but I'm failing on both. 

Here is my modification: 

--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
(add-to-list 'gnus-group-line-format-alist
             `(?z (gnus-short-group-name gnus-tmp-qualified-group) ?s))
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---

A minimal change to the group-line-format would be the z in the
otherwise default: 

--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
(setq gnus-group-line-format "%M%S%p%P%5y:%B%(%z%)\n")
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---

I tried lines like

--8<---------------cut here---------------start------------->8---
(add-hook 'gnus-started-hook
          `(add-to-list 'gnus-group-line-format-alist
                        `(?z (gnus-short-group-name
                              gnus-tmp-qualified-group) ?s))
--8<---------------cut here---------------end--------------->8---

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Julien Cubizolles | 9 Oct 06:42 2014

How can there be duplicates in an nnml *Gnus Browse Server*

I'm using a nnml named "local" server for all the saved messages I
keep. I noticed that groups (ie directories in ~/Mail/) show up twice in
the *Gnus Browse Server* buffer for this server. I've tried manually
cleaning the ~/Mail/active file but it didn't remove the duplicates.

What data/file is Gnus using to create the list of groups in the *Gnus
Browse Server* buffer ?

Could these duplicates be the reason why some messages marked read in
some of these groups randomly appear new after a while ?

Any help in these matters would be very much appreciated. I've been
trying for years to get rid of this annoying problem.


Emanuel Berg | 3 Oct 02:59 2014

Re: Posting styles, identities... and my stupdity

asjo <at> koldfront.dk (Adam Sjøgren) writes:

> Yes. I would _never_ use my work email address for
> private emails, and I would _never_ use my private
> email address for work email.

Why not? What does it matter?

I don't consider mail a uniform (tho I can instantly
spot if someone is custom to doing it or not) - it is a
method of communication. The contents is what matters -
just as you can speak formally just as you can write
informally (even in paleo-Greek).

>> Quoting should always be done and always exactly as
>> we do here... or else!
> Sure. And then you meet the real world.

So supposedly computer people who cannot use email
properly and do not quote and insist on age-long
meetings in person (which are negotiated in five, six,
or seven mails), the meeting itself boils down to what
could have been communicated in a mail in five seconds
- is that any more "real" than what we are doing right

Just because it is stupid doesn't make it any more
real. On the contrary, in my opinion - people who
cannot use mail or only use it as overhead to setup
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