Emanuel Berg | 20 Dec 13:36 2014
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Gnus: read x earliest unread articles

Yet another path for Gnus. Gnus - probably the best
Gnus in the world. (But we'll have to look into that.)

This is also a simple idea - will it already be there,
as well?

There is also some interesting Elisp - Emacs doesn't
seem to come with a function to take n elements from a
list (?). Check out the two solutions - I don't know
how `reverse' is implemented, but both solutions are
slow, is my gut feeling, but not slow enough to break
the purpose of the function.

The purpose: often you have a group like this:

    the.gosh.wow.group 115 [unread]

However, you don't want to read 115 posts, because
then you'll just read and write and get into arguments
all day (and night) long, and there won't be any time
to carve mythical-religious talismans out of pieces of
wood...

Say, you just want 10 messages. OK, stupid, `C-u 10
RET', right? Wrong, that gets you the newest 10, which
you can't follow because you didn't read the earlier
stages of the discussion. OK, `C-u -10 RET' then? No,
that works for archived stuff, like your nnml inbox,
but not groups: it apparently refers to all articles,
not just the unread ones.
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Gijs Hillenius | 18 Dec 17:50 2014
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Re: gnus-calendar / gnus-icalendar in Emacs24?

On 15 Dec 2014, Adam Sjøgren wrote:

> Loris writes:
>
>> Does anyone know the status of gnus-calendar / gnus-icalendar?
>
> It is working well for me.

The past two days I've had a few occasions to put this to the test. When
someone using Lotus Notes sends me an invitation, gnus-icalendar is even
able to return accept responses. Yay!

For Outlook/Exchange based invitations, I can add the meeting requests,
but there is no [accept] thingie. 

David, would you want to see some of the latter?

In any case, this is a very neat feature.

Loris Bennett | 17 Dec 12:50 2014
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Re: gnus-calendar / gnus-icalendar in Emacs24?

Rasmus <rasmus <at> gmx.us> writes:

> "Loris Bennett" <loris.bennett <at> fu-berlin.de> writes:
>
>> asjo <at> koldfront.dk (Adam Sjøgren) writes:
>>
>>> I use gnus-icalendar at work to avoid having to use Outlook, and I use
>>> the iCalendar format at home to get calendars from my computers to show
>>> up on an Android phone. No Apple involved.
>>
>> What Android app are you using for that?  I've tried aCal and DAVdroid
>> to connect to a local owncloud instance, but to no avail.
>
> For what it's worth: I use DAVdroid to sync my phone with owncloud (I can
> then use the normal calendar).  I use org-caldav to sync between owncloud
> and my org-agenda.
>
> —Rasmus

Thanks for the info.  I'll have another go with DAVdroid.

Cheers,

Loris

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Loris Bennett | 17 Dec 08:36 2014
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Re: gnus-calendar / gnus-icalendar in Emacs24?

asjo <at> koldfront.dk (Adam Sjøgren) writes:

> I use gnus-icalendar at work to avoid having to use Outlook, and I use
> the iCalendar format at home to get calendars from my computers to show
> up on an Android phone. No Apple involved.

What Android app are you using for that?  I've tried aCal and DAVdroid
to connect to a local owncloud instance, but to no avail.

Cheers,

Loris

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Emanuel Berg | 17 Dec 00:15 2014
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Re: gnus-calendar / gnus-icalendar in Emacs24?

asjo <at> koldfront.dk (Adam Sjøgren) writes:

> Many programs support the format, and it is defined
> in rfc5545, so "accursed Apple thing" is not quite
> accurate.
>
> To wit:
>
>  * http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/ICalendar
>
> I use gnus-icalendar at work to avoid having to use
> Outlook, and I use the iCalendar format at home to
> get calendars from my computers to show up on an
> Android phone. No Apple involved.

OK, just out of respect for you guys I will print and
read that Wikipedia page right now...

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Emanuel Berg | 16 Dec 23:41 2014
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Re: gnus-calendar / gnus-icalendar in Emacs24?

Charles Philip Chan <cpchan <at> bell.net> writes:

>> I there a reason there is a Gnus calendar as well
>> as the plain Emacs one? I mean, I'm not
>> criticizing, I know there are overlapping features
>> in Emacs, for example RMAIL and Gnus for mail,
>> latex-mode and AUCTeX for LaTeX, and so on, and I'm
>> in favor of that, just curious if there were any
>> particular reasons or if the Gnus solution has a
>> profile in one direction or the other?
>
> This is for accepting icalendar invitations in email
> and optionally sync with org-mode.

Now you are describing it in terms of technology
instances that I'm unfamiliar with. G00gle reveals
that icalendar is an accursed Apple thing, so I
suppose it is an integration with Apple's calendar.
Good for you - eh :)

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Gijs Hillenius | 16 Dec 11:33 2014
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Re: gnus-calendar / gnus-icalendar in Emacs24?

On 15 Dec 2014, Adam Sjøgren wrote:

> Loris writes:
>
>> Does anyone know the status of gnus-calendar / gnus-icalendar?
>
> It is working well for me.

It is not yet in Debian's GNU Emacs 24.4.1, but I just loaded the file
from Savanah. And during testing, Gnus sent an accept response to one
invitation! Kudos!

I had a quick look at the comment, (but) I would appreciate more
documentation. For instance, I did not yet manage to add an event to my
diary file. (~/diary). Does that require org integration?

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Emanuel Berg | 16 Dec 00:35 2014
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Re: gnus-calendar / gnus-icalendar in Emacs24?

Charles Philip Chan <cpchan <at> bell.net> writes:

> It is now called gnus-icalendar. I see it in my
> emacs 24.4.51 ...

Cool!

I there a reason there is a Gnus calendar as well as
the plain Emacs one?

I mean, I'm not criticizing, I know there are
overlapping features in Emacs, for example RMAIL and
Gnus for mail, latex-mode and AUCTeX for LaTeX, and so
on, and I'm in favor of that, just curious if there
were any particular reasons or if the Gnus solution
has a profile in one direction or the other?

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Loris Bennett | 15 Dec 14:38 2014
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gnus-calendar / gnus-icalendar in Emacs24?

Hi,

Does anyone know the status of gnus-calendar / gnus-icalendar?  Here

https://github.com/jtatarik/ical-event/blob/master/README.md

it is claimed that the code has been integrated into Emacs24.  However
I can't find it in my GNU Emacs 24.3.1 / Gnus v5.13.

Cheers,

Loris

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Emanuel Berg | 15 Dec 02:20 2014
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Re: Gnus: add group from server browse list

asjo <at> koldfront.dk (Adam Sjøgren) writes:

>> But: Perhaps Gnus would benefit from an alias
>> gnus-browse-subscribe-... or
>> gnus-browse-toggle-subscription[-...] or a stub
>> defun that just calls the functions you mention?
>
> I haven't heard of anyone that was confused by the
> toggling before...

You still haven't: I just looked at the function name
and read 'unsubscribe' - but I'm confident it is
mentioned in the docs, actually I'm so confident I
won't even bother checking them out.

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Emanuel Berg | 13 Dec 22:37 2014
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Re: Gnus: add group from server browse list

asjo <at> koldfront.dk (Adam Sjøgren) writes:

> "add" as in "create a new group", or "add" as in
> "subscribe to a group in the list"?

No, I mean subscribe, as you thought (or perhaps
derived from my code).

> Bound to 'u' in the browse server buffer is
> gnus-browse-unsubscribe-current-group, which toggles
> ... The function you mention also toggles ...
> gnus-browse-unsubscribe-group

Indeed! Ha, but this is good news, of course. Yes, I
was very surprised this "wasn't" there, as it is the
most natural thing in the world and as I showed very
easy to do as well.

But: Perhaps Gnus would benefit from an alias
gnus-browse-subscribe-... or
gnus-browse-toggle-subscription[-...] or a stub defun
that just calls the functions you mention?

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