Emanuel Berg | 2 Apr 00:53 2015
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Re: newbie spam filtering with gnus

Enrico Schumann <es <at> enricoschumann.net> writes:

> When I used POP some years ago, what worked out of
> the box for me was using SpamAssassin as an external
> programme (spamc) during splitting, as described in
> the manual:

I also use POP and I don't get that many spams: those
I get I am able to KILL which is helpful as they do
come back [1].

Are you saying POP compared to IMAP is more
susceptible to spam? Those are protocols that deal
with the client fetch of mail from the server.

IMAP is more advanced, and so more complicated, but
I always thought them to be mere protocols - defining
the message syntax as well as the order and meaning of
exchanges (e.g., handshakes and so on) in different
situations, with no implications as to anti-spam.

Or do you mean that particular methods, e.g.
SpamAssassin which you mention, only works with POP?

If you get a lot of spam, perhaps it is easier and
more efficient to just get a new e-mail address which
is a bit unintuitive and which you never submit to web
services or publish verbatim on pages or in mails?

For example, I always mention my address as
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Steven Arntson | 1 Apr 04:31 2015

newbie spam filtering with gnus

Several times in the last few months I've read through the Gnus manual
about filtering out spam, and I always end overwhelmed. But I would like
to accomplish something. I'm getting about 50 spam mails a day right now
in my POP "nnml:mail.misc". They are all pretty "obvious" spam of the
sort containing word salad under subject lines about discounted drugs
and impossible enhancements. I've downloaded Spamassassin, but haven't
been able to get my head around fancy splitting, connecting Gnus to
Spamassassin, &c. And there appear to be many other options besides
Spamassassin, which I am at a loss to evaluate.

Is there any sort of simple "starter kit" for newcomers getting going on
filtering out spam?

Thank you for any advice aimed at a not-very-technical person!
-steven

Emacs 24.4.1
Gnus 5.13

Emanuel Berg | 28 Mar 18:20 2015
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Re: better solution for html mails?

Felix Natter <fnatter <at> gmx.net> writes:

> This seems to work a bit better than w3m-el (fonts
> look nicer).

If you don't like the w3m default faces, like all
other faces, they are up for configuration:

As `M-x describe-face RET w3m- TAB' reveals:

    w3m-anchor 	w3m-arrived-anchor
    w3m-bold 	w3m-current-anchor
    w3m-form 	w3m-form-button
    w3m-form-button-mouse 	w3m-form-button-pressed
    w3m-form-inactive 	w3m-header-line-location-content
    w3m-header-line-location-title 	w3m-history-current-url
    w3m-image 	w3m-image-anchor
    w3m-insert 	w3m-italic
    w3m-session-select 	w3m-session-selected
    w3m-strike-through 	w3m-tab-background
    w3m-tab-mouse 	w3m-tab-selected
    w3m-tab-selected-background 	w3m-tab-selected-retrieving
    w3m-tab-unselected 	w3m-tab-unselected-retrieving
    w3m-tab-unselected-unseen 	w3m-underline

> However, it still does not seem not seem to display
> images at all :-/ --> I guess I'll just have to live
> with this, or can I configure shr to diplay all
> images at the bottom of the mail (which is not that
> hard)?
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Emanuel Berg | 27 Mar 23:18 2015
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Re: better solution for html mails?

asjo <at> koldfront.dk (Adam Sjøgren) writes:

> *plonk*

Although my own interface to populate the KILL file
doesn't come with this sound effect anymore, so as no
one will ever know whose messages I read or do not
read, and so it won't deteriorate to a "discussion"
ping-pong table of plonks back and forth, let me
publicly assure everyone that henceforth I will
continue to read no less than 100% of
Mr. Sjøgren's articles.

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Emanuel Berg | 27 Mar 22:50 2015
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Re: better solution for html mails?

asjo <at> koldfront.dk (Adam Sjøgren) writes:

>> What articles are you talking about?
>
> The one I wrote, and you responded to, and the one
> Felix Natter wrote, which my article was a follow up
> to, wherein he wrote:
>
> | I am currently using w3m-el to display HTML mails:
>
> | (setq mm-text-html-renderer 'w3m
>
> [...]
>
> | But is there a better solution in the mean time,
> | maybe even using eww?
>
> To which you responded, and I am paraphrasing here:
> why don't you try w3m.

Aha, right! I guess we'll have to wait and see if the
OP sends an answer to that question.

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Emanuel Berg | 27 Mar 22:29 2015
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Re: better solution for html mails?

asjo <at> koldfront.dk (Adam Sjøgren) writes:

> Because w3m is what the original poster _already was
> using_. Did you read the articles in this thread at
> all?!

What articles are you talking about?

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Emanuel Berg | 27 Mar 22:09 2015
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Re: better solution for html mails?

asjo <at> koldfront.dk (Adam Sjøgren) writes:

> Lars wrote shr (which eww uses) for showing HTML
> emails. Maybe try that, and see if it suits
> you better?

Correct me if I'm wrong, but didn't he write eww as
well? So shouldn't you get the same "both" ways?

In my experience, which is limited to a short test of
eww, I admit, Emacs-w3m is the best web browser for
Emacs, and the best text-based browser all categories
(tho I assume it does images for a GUI Emacs).
Because text-based programs are always better than GUI
ditto, Emacs-w3m is the best browser in the world!

                . ~ * jubilation * ~ .

So why not try that?

(I CC this to the w3m mailing list which is

    emacs DASH w3m AT&T namazu DOS org

- people always deserve appreciation that is true)

Now...

HTML mails aren't exactly what anyone is encouraged to
use. But thanks to Gnus, when it happens, the
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Felix Natter | 27 Mar 19:09 2015
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better solution for html mails?

hello,

I am currently using w3m-el to display HTML mails:

(setq mm-text-html-renderer 'w3m
      w3m-coding-system 'utf-8
      w3m-file-coding-system 'utf-8
      w3m-file-name-coding-system 'utf-8
      w3m-input-coding-system 'utf-8
      w3m-output-coding-system 'utf-8
      w3m-terminal-coding-system 'utf-8
      w3m-toggle-inline-images t 
      w3m-default-display-inline-images t)

But is there a better solution in the mean time, maybe even using eww?

I am using mgnus-0.6-201304121517.

I couldn't find anything in the net.

Thanks and Best Regards,
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Non Gnuser | 23 Mar 17:28 2015

Re: Standard way to use Gnus?

On 2015-03-19, Adam Sj??gren <asjo <at> koldfront.dk> wrote:
> Non writes:
>
>> I think if I spent more time with gnus I could get it to do most of the
>> things I want but I don't know how good the killfiling is
>
> Gnus has scoring, which can be as simple as a killfile, and very
> complex, even adaptive, if that is what you want.
>
> I only use two levels: articles I want to be automatically marked as
> read (but still show up in lists) and articles I don't even want to know
> existed.
>
> Details: http://gnus.org/manual/gnus_90.html#Scoring
>
>> and I don't know whether it can easily work with multiple news servers
>
> It can - I am only using 2 currently, but I used to use 3 and 4 - no
> problem.
>
>> (and stop advertising itself!)
>
> You tell Gnus not to include the User-Agent header, by customizing
> message-required-mail-headers and/or message-required-news-headers.
>
>
>   Best regards,
>
>     Adam

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SF | 23 Mar 03:48 2015
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mml-attach-file always at the end of the buffer

Hi,

For some time already, I wanted to extend mml-attach-file, so it always attaches the file at the end of the buffer.

I'm sure this could also be done with a defadvice to move to the end of the buffer and then return upon exit,
nevertheless here's my solution for it, since I haven't tinkered yet a lot with defadvice.

  Sebastian

(setq mml-attach-files-at-end t)

(defun mml-attach-file (file &optional type description disposition)
  "Attach a file to the outgoing MIME message.
The file is not inserted or encoded until you send the message with
`\\[message-send-and-exit]' or `\\[message-send]' in Message mode,
or `\\[mail-send-and-exit]' or `\\[mail-send]' in Mail mode.

FILE is the name of the file to attach.  TYPE is its
content-type, a string of the form \"type/subtype\".  DESCRIPTION
is a one-line description of the attachment.  The DISPOSITION
specifies how the attachment is intended to be displayed.  It can
be either \"inline\" (displayed automatically within the message
body) or \"attachment\" (separate from the body)."
  (interactive
   (let* ((file (mml-minibuffer-read-file "Attach file: "))
	  (type (mml-minibuffer-read-type file))
	  (description (mml-minibuffer-read-description))
	  (disposition (mml-minibuffer-read-disposition type nil file)))
     (list file type description disposition)))
  ;; If in the message header, attach at the end and leave point unchanged.
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David Masterson | 23 Mar 00:12 2015
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Re: Standard way to use Gnus?

Glyn Millington <glyn.millington <at> gmail.com> writes:

> David Masterson <dsmasterson <at> gmail.com> writes:
>
>> Some in-depth .emacs examples would be good.
>
> I have found these helpful - in no special order -
>
> http://www.esperi.org.uk/~nix/xemacs/personal/personal.html
>
> http://bzg.fr/emacs.html
>
> https://github.com/jwiegley/dot-emacs
>
> http://sachachua.com/blog/tag/gnus/#post-4905

Whoa!  Those are going to take some time to wade thru.  :-)

Thanks
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