Lars Ingebrigtsen | 29 Jan 09:02 2015

Re: How can there be duplicates in an nnml *Gnus Browse Server*

Julien Cubizolles <j.cubizolles <at>> writes:

> I'm using a nnml named "local" server for all the saved messages I
> keep. I noticed that groups (ie directories in ~/Mail/) show up twice in
> the *Gnus Browse Server* buffer for this server. I've tried manually
> cleaning the ~/Mail/active file but it didn't remove the duplicates.
> What data/file is Gnus using to create the list of groups in the *Gnus
> Browse Server* buffer ?

It should just be the groups in the nnml active file, and nothing else,
so if that file doesn't contain doubled group names, then this is very


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Lars Ingebrigtsen | 29 Jan 08:22 2015

Re: sort nested topics similar to sorting groups

Harry Putnam <reader <at>> writes:

> After chasing down the manual section on `sorting' I didn't see any
> reference to sorting nested topics.
> The times I've tried to set subtopics of higher topic by hand it seems
> the topics have a mind of their own.
> Any chance to control how subtopics get listed below a main topic?

The `gnus-topic-sort-topics' command will sort the topics, I think.


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Lars Ingebrigtsen | 29 Jan 04:14 2015

Re: Subject field in summary buffer modified

asjo <at> (Adam Sjøgren) writes:

> Sometimes the subject shown in the summary buffer has the beginning cut
> off, i.e. an article with:
>   Subject: BC Camplight: How To Die In The North [3/6]
> will show this in the summary:
>    [   2: unknown                ] How To Die In The North [3/6]
> It does not happen all the time, though, because a subject like this:
>   Subject: Télé Rouge: Transformation [4/6]
> is shown as:
>    [   2: unknown                ] Télé Rouge: Transformation [4/6]

Hm.  Could the backend be outputting different data in the headers view
than in the article data?

> I can't for the life if me figure out if this is something I have
> configured, and forgotten about, or if it is a default behaviour that I
> need to find out how to suppress.

Look in your .gnus file for ":"?  :-)

It could be...  er...  `gnus-simplify-subject-functions', perhaps?  Or
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Lars Ingebrigtsen | 29 Jan 04:12 2015

Re: Cannot read partial active file msg

Sivaram Neelakantan < <at>> writes:

> I just noticed that I keep getting this message over the last few
> days.  What does this mean?
> Opening nntp server on
> Cannot read partial active file from nntp server.
> Reading active file via nndraft...done

It probably means that the nntp server isn't returning any data when
you're requesting a group listing.


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Lars Ingebrigtsen | 29 Jan 04:17 2015

Re: max-size for displayed PGP image on signed email?

Kevin Brubeck Unhammer <unhammer <at>> writes:

> I like how gnus shows the image belonging to the key of a signed email,
> but some people have really big heads or something and I have to scroll
> a lot to get to what they actually wrote.
> Is it possible to have gnus auto-resize the image to a maximum size like
> 70px?

That should be possible, but I can't really find what function is
showing the signed email image at all.  Do you know what package it's


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Emanuel Berg | 27 Jan 21:24 2015

more keys in a Linux VT (was: alt-tab? really? you're joking...)

Tassilo Horn <tsdh <at>> writes:

>>> To me <C-M-i> isn't more difficult to type (in a
>>> way, it is easier/better as the left index finger
>>> can remain at <f>)
> As many keys, that depends on your keyboard layout.
> I use a German variant of the Dvorak layout, and
> then `C-M-i' basically means pressing three keys
> with the left hand.

Yeah, that sucks. I used the Swedish layout many years
ago but it really sucks with programming because not
the least the Swedish chars å, ä and ö are obstructing
the much needed programming delimiters, which must be
inserted with combinations: for example, the semicolon
doesn't have a designated key. I use the compose key
for å, ä and ö, which I only need in the occasional
mail. With computers, I'm Anglo-American body and soul
by now...

>> Without the configuration, <M-tab> translates to
>> <C-M-i> in the Linux VTs. Those keys are both very
>> good, so why have them do the same thing? It is a
>> waste.
> Because those keys are the same on older terminals.
>    With an ordinary ASCII terminal, there is no way
>    to distinguish between <TAB> and ‘C-i’
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Hikaru Ichijyo | 27 Jan 01:15 2015

Re: alt-tab? really? you're joking...

asjo <at> (Adam Sjøgren) writes:

> Tassilo writes:
>> asjo <at> (Adam Sjøgren) writes:
>>> I don't even delete spam.
>> At some future point in time, you might want to come back to these cheap
>> VIAGRA offers? ;-)
> I'm growing old, you know... ;-)

I only keep the really good spam emails.  There have been some classics:

"If your warrior of love is too small, you may lose this war!"

"Set your wife on fire!"

"Your manhood will fly like a white dove - independent and free."

"You look like a fat hog.  No wonder your wife sleeps alone."

"I'm on rooftop!"

"I can't believe you saved me over $500 on bags!"

And my favorite from years ago, the two-parter spam about "impudent
impudent impudent" CEO Holliday of DuPont, a trans-national scoundrel!
Impudent impudent impudent is he!
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incal | 26 Jan 22:18 2015

Re: alt-tab? really? you're joking...

Tassilo Horn <tsdh <at>> writes:

> Well, in any programming mode, `<M-tab>' runs
> `completion-at-point' or `complete-symbol' which are
> the main completion functions in emacs. (Actually,
> that's bound to `C-M-i' but that translates to
> `<M-tab>' which is much easier to type.)

To me <C-M-i> isn't more difficult to type (in a way,
it is easier/better as the left index finger can
remain at <f>), and it doesn't translate to <M-tab>,
which by the way I had to configure. But now I got
suspicious: I'll remove the configuration and see if
it still works...


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Emanuel Berg | 26 Jan 20:48 2015

Re: alt-tab? really? you're joking...

asjo <at> (Adam Sjøgren) writes:

> I don't even delete spam ...
> (If I miss a legitimate email that ended up in spam,
> and I need to find it later, I would hate to have
> deleted it... slight OCD/packrat, I suppose.)

There's that, which doesn't have to be a bad thing,
but also: if the mail doesn't show up anywhere, I
perceive them as virtually deleted.

If they are deleted they can still be retrieved, but
that would be uncertain and require work. Better to
know they are 100% "retrievable" and then still never
do it, anyway.

Many people form the Windows world want the Linux
(etc.) systems to be "clean", "minimalist", and so on.
This is a misconception, but I understand where it
comes from. On a Windows computer there are one
thousand things that runs in the so-called
"background" that pops up all the time, and drains
your computer of resources, and your mind of
mindfulness. However, this isn't the same as having
one thousand binaries in /usr/bin or ten thousand
mails as textfiles in ~/Mail/mail/misc - and while
removing those files will make your system less
*powerful*, it won't get any more clean or minimalist.

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Emanuel Berg | 26 Jan 20:35 2015

Re: new subject

Peter Münster <pmlists <at>> writes:

> Is incal = Emanuel Berg?

Yes, I'm migrating to another computer, because I have
to physically "mount" my computer every day, so I
thought I'd get a really small and light one (but
still stationary), only I discovered the new one lacks
a hardware PMC which I need for some experiments, so
now I'm "mounting" back and forth between computers -
I guess some setting fell short: it shouldn't say
"incal" which is my hacker alias (don't tell

> What is wrong with `message-change-subject'?

Nothing, on the contrary, that is the right way,
however since it is such an easy thing to do which you
don't do that often, I suspect there are people who
did their own Elisp to do it, and people who just do
it manually, instead of finding out there is a builtin
way to do it.

> Initially, I just wanted to point you to
> `message-change-subject'

Yes, we understood :)

    (message-change-subject NEW-SUBJECT)

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Emanuel Berg | 25 Jan 21:53 2015

Re: new subject

Clemens Schüller <cs.mlists+info-gnus <at>>

>> What is the old way?
> I have this in my .gnus and it works very well :-)

See Peter? My way isn't the only one old!



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