Karl Kleinpaste | 1 Aug 01:01 2001
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Re: Request: ding subscribers' group parameter

Kai.Grossjohann <at> CS.Uni-Dortmund.DE (Kai Großjohann) writes:
> For if John Smith who is not on the list posts and I have
> ding <at> gnus.org in the to-address/to-list parameter (I always forget
> which one), then John will not receive a copy of my answer.

Go back through the last, say, 5000 ding postings.  Determine how many
of them were from people not subscribers to the list.  I'll be alarmed
if the number is even in two digits -- yes, sure, it happens, once
every several geological epochs.

Compare that vanishingly small number to e.g. the number of duplicates
I've seen in just the last couple weeks, 7 of them today /alone/.

[1545] [18:48:26] cinnamon:~/Mail/list/ding> grep -l ^Gnus-Warning * | xargs grep ^Date:
38122:Date: 21 Jun 2001 11:46:06 -0700
38428:Date: Fri, 20 Jul 2001 10:27:10 -0500
38447:Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2001 20:21:27 +0200
38460:Date: Sat, 21 Jul 2001 21:07:21 -0500
38468:Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2001 11:28:15 +0200
38469:Date: Sun, 22 Jul 2001 11:04:53 +0200
38625:Date: Fri, 27 Jul 2001 22:20:34 +0200
38626:Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2001 00:35:12 +0200
38744:Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 00:39:23 +0200
38745:Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 00:37:53 +0200
38765:Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 10:56:57 +0200
38770:Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 16:44:00 +0200
38783:Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 21:57:46 +0200
38784:Date: Tue, 31 Jul 2001 22:11:10 +0200
38791:Date: Wed, 01 Aug 2001 00:44:23 +0200

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Nevin Kapur | 1 Aug 01:58 2001
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Re: Request: ding subscribers' group parameter

Karl Kleinpaste <karl <at> charcoal.com> writes:

> I use the manual-recommended duplicates-catcher in nnmail-split-rules,
> because most of the time, by far, duplicates are just that, and
> usually spam -- my duplicates group is set to score down everything
> and expire instantly.  For the ding list, I have to move them all back
> to nnml:list.ding manually.  Oddly, the ding list is the only mailing
> list I get where I consistently see duplicates at all.

Can you really call this "manual-recommended"? Yes, it is in the
manual but it is for the express purposes of collecting all duplicate
mail in a separate folder. If you have a split rule for the ding list
and you let email fall through (i.e. not have the duplicate rule)
would not all the ding duplicates land up in the ding folder?

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Pavel Janík | 1 Aug 01:10 2001
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Large *.pif base64 attachments and Gnus...

Hi,

you probably see the same behaviour of our Outlook colleges sending us big
.doc.pif files ;-) I'm trying to save them to a file with `o' on the MIME
button. It is saved to file I specify, but it is not decoded. It is saved
as raw base64 data, no error message can be seen, no beep for normal
user. Only this can be seen in *Messages*:

Error while decoding: (error Invalid base64 data)
Wrote /tmp/tlm-doc.zip.pif

I can provide sample of course, but I think you have already received many
of them ;-)

I think that: 1. we should clearly warn user about base64 error.
              2. not save anything if there is an error.

What do you think?
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Pavel Janík | 1 Aug 02:10 2001
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Re: Feature request: Plugged/Unplugged via Mouse-2

   From: ShengHuo ZHU <zsh <at> cs.rochester.edu>
   Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2001 09:33:06 -0700

Hi,

   > > we can toggle topics off via Mouse-2 on "Topic" in the mode-line. What
   > > about Mouse-2 on Unplugged to become Plugged and Mouse-2 on Plugged to
   > > become Unplugged? It shouldn't be that hard - if no one will implement it
   > > over weekend, I can do it myself.
   > 
   > Have you got this implemented?

yes, I have this implemented, but I do not think that this should be added
to Gnus as is, because it will not work for other Emacs flavors. But here
it is (maybe I should also add help-echo property there):

--- gnus/lisp/gnus-agent.el	Mon Jul 30 10:15:12 2001
+++ gnus-pj/lisp/gnus-agent.el	Wed Aug  1 01:57:19 2001
 <at>  <at>  -318,11 +318,17  <at>  <at> 
 	(setq gnus-plugged plugged)
 	(gnus-agent-possibly-synchronize-flags)
 	(gnus-run-hooks 'gnus-agent-plugged-hook)
-	(setcar (cdr gnus-agent-mode-status) " Plugged"))
+	(setcar (cdr gnus-agent-mode-status)
+		(propertize " Plugged"
+			    'local-map
+			    (make-mode-line-mouse2-map 'gnus-agent-toggle-plugged))))
     (gnus-agent-close-connections)
     (setq gnus-plugged plugged)
     (gnus-run-hooks 'gnus-agent-unplugged-hook)
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ShengHuo ZHU | 1 Aug 02:52 2001
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Re: Feature request: Plugged/Unplugged via Mouse-2

Pavel <at> Janik.cz (Pavel Janík) writes:

>    From: ShengHuo ZHU <zsh <at> cs.rochester.edu>
>    Date: Sat, 28 Jul 2001 09:33:06 -0700
> 
> Hi,
> 
>   > > we can toggle topics off via Mouse-2 on "Topic" in the mode-line. What
>   > > about Mouse-2 on Unplugged to become Plugged and Mouse-2 on Plugged to
>   > > become Unplugged? It shouldn't be that hard - if no one will implement it
>   > > over weekend, I can do it myself.
>   > 
>   > Have you got this implemented?
> 
> yes, I have this implemented, but I do not think that this should be added
> to Gnus as is, because it will not work for other Emacs flavors. But here
> it is (maybe I should also add help-echo property there):

Installed with modification. Thanks.

ShengHuo

ShengHuo ZHU | 1 Aug 02:53 2001
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Re: Can't post-followup or post-forward in nnml groups

Katsumi Yamaoka <yamaoka <at> jpl.org> writes:

>>>>>> In <vafu1ztnr1a.fsf <at> INBOX.auto.gnus.tok.lucy.cs.uni-dortmund.de> 
>>>>>>	Kai.Grossjohann <at> CS.Uni-Dortmund.DE (Kai Großjohann) wrote:
> 
>> I feel it's much better.  However, I don't know what the
>> parameter symbol is for the posting server.  BTW, I wish I could
>> do as such as follows:
>>
>> (setq gnus-secondary-select-methods
>>       `((nnml "" (gnus-post-method ,gnus-select-method))))
> 
>Kai> How about the variable gnus-parameters?
> 
>Kai> (setq gnus-parameters
>Kai>       `(("^nnml:" (gnus-post-method ,gnus-select-method))))
> 
>Kai> Does this work?
> 
> No.  But it's a good idea.  There is a need to modify the
> function `gnus-post-method'.  Could you please apply the
> following patch?
> 
> 
> 2001-07-31  Katsumi Yamaoka  <yamaoka <at> jpl.org>
> 
> 	* gnus-msg.el (gnus-post-method): Refer to `gnus-parameters'.

Installed. Thanks.

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ShengHuo ZHU | 1 Aug 06:46 2001
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Re: error while requesting article news://news.server/news.group/42

Maciej Matysiak <phoner <at> blah.pl> writes:

> hi,
> 
> when one gives reference to news article like:
>  news://news-archive.icm.edu.pl/pl.answers/795
> and i try to access it (one day old cvs oort), i got:

Fixed. Please test.

ShengHuo

Didier Verna | 1 Aug 10:43 2001
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Re: Can't post-followup or post-forward in nnml groups

Katsumi Yamaoka <yamaoka <at> jpl.org> wrote:

> No.  But it's a good idea.  There is a need to modify the
> function `gnus-post-method'.  Could you please apply the
> following patch?

Nice ! Please people, also make an effort to properly document this kind of
stuff. It's a nightmare to have the doc up to date otherwise. Thanks!

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Didier Verna | 1 Aug 11:35 2001
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Re: gnus-delay.el: let Gnus remind you of action items

Kai.Grossjohann <at> CS.Uni-Dortmund.DE (Kai Großjohann) wrote:

> I changed nnml such that you can put a `Newsgroups: mail.misc' header
> into your message and post, and then the message will appear in
> nnml:mail.misc.
> 
> If you create followups to a message using the above mentioned method,
> then you can think of the followups as a kind of annotation.  For
> example, you could (setq gnus-thread-ignore-subject t), and then put
> the annotation in the Subject header, and then you will see it right
> in the Summary buffer.

	OK.

>>> I wonder if your nndiary is a superset of the old nntodo that John
>>> Wiegley doesn't have time to maintain anymore?  That would also be
>>> nice.
>> 
>> I've never used nntodo, but I'll look at it.
> 
> It does not provide much functionality.  Mainly, you can put articles
> in groups, and assign a priority to each article.  The summary buffer
> format is slightly changed (From header is replaced with priority).
> The summary buffer can be sorted by priority, in addition to date and
> article number.

	I guess nndiary can do all that. You just have to consider that the
dates of your diary entries represent priorities, like, the farthest date, the
lowest priority or so.

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Kai Großjohann | 1 Aug 11:55 2001
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Re: Can't post-followup or post-forward in nnml groups

On Wed, 01 Aug 2001, Katsumi Yamaoka wrote:

> --- gnus-msg.el~	Wed Jul 25 22:17:04 2001
> +++ gnus-msg.el	Tue Jul 31 22:43:02 2001
>  <at>  <at>  -649,7 +649,9  <at>  <at> 
>  (defun gnus-post-method (arg group &optional silent)
>    "Return the posting method based on GROUP and ARG.
>  If SILENT, don't prompt the user."
> -  (let ((group-method (gnus-find-method-for-group group)))
> +  (let ((group-method
> +	 (or (car (gnus-group-find-parameter group 'gnus-post-method t))
> +	     (gnus-find-method-for-group group))))
>      (cond
>       ;; If the group-method is nil (which shouldn't happen) we use
>       ;; the default method.

Up to now, the convention has been that special group parameters get
short names, and the gnus-foo names have just been local variables.

How about renaming that parameter to `post-method' and documenting it
along with all the other group parameters?

kai
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