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Nitin Jain | 4 Sep 2007 17:05
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ESS installation with cygwin needs unsetting DISPLAY

Dear all,

I am facing a problem in ESS installation when using with cygwin. Here are the steps that I followed:

- unzipped .tgz ess file 
- added the ess path in init.el
(load "/cygdrive/C/cygwin/usr/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/ess-5.3.5/lisp/ess-site")
- Modiffied  /usr/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/ess-5.3.5/lisp/essd-r-args.el file to
comment the tooltip lines:
(eval-when-compile
    (require 'tooltip)); for tooltip-show

When I start cygwin and type, 
xemacs a.R -f R &
it asks me for the starting R directory to which I press enter and then I get the message "Process R is not running"

However, when I open another xterm and do: "unset DISPLAY", the above command works fine (though several
times, it hangs and then i have to restart cygwin).

The difference in the two xemacs sessions is that 1st one (with default DISPLAY set to 127.0.0.1:0.0),
xemacs opens with grey background (much like default unix xemacs) whereas after unsetting DISPLAY, I get
xemacs with white background (much like native xemacs on windows).

Is this a bug or am I missing something?

Thanks.

Best,
Nitin
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Rodney Sparapani | 4 Sep 2007 20:23
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Re: ESS installation with cygwin needs unsetting DISPLAY

Nitin Jain wrote:
> Dear all,
> 
> I am facing a problem in ESS installation when using with cygwin. Here are the steps that I followed:
> 
> - unzipped .tgz ess file 
> - added the ess path in init.el
> (load "/cygdrive/C/cygwin/usr/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/ess-5.3.5/lisp/ess-site")
> - Modiffied  /usr/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/ess-5.3.5/lisp/essd-r-args.el file to
comment the tooltip lines:
> (eval-when-compile
>     (require 'tooltip)); for tooltip-show
> 
> 
> When I start cygwin and type, 
> xemacs a.R -f R &
> it asks me for the starting R directory to which I press enter and then I get the message "Process R is not running"
> 
> However, when I open another xterm and do: "unset DISPLAY", the above command works fine (though several
times, it hangs and then i have to restart cygwin).
> 
> The difference in the two xemacs sessions is that 1st one (with default DISPLAY set to 127.0.0.1:0.0),
xemacs opens with grey background (much like default unix xemacs) whereas after unsetting DISPLAY, I get
xemacs with white background (much like native xemacs on windows).
> 
> Is this a bug or am I missing something?
> 
> Thanks.
> 
> Best,
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Nitin Jain | 4 Sep 2007 23:32
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Re: ESS installation with cygwin needs unsetting DISPLAY

Thanks Rodney.

This means that for now, I should use either native xemacs or unset the DISPLAY every time I start cygwin.

Best,
Nitin

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Subject: Re: [ESS] ESS installation with cygwin needs unsetting DISPLAY

Nitin Jain wrote:
> Dear all,
> 
> I am facing a problem in ESS installation when using with cygwin. Here are the steps that I followed:
> 
> - unzipped .tgz ess file 
> - added the ess path in init.el
> (load "/cygdrive/C/cygwin/usr/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/ess-5.3.5/lisp/ess-site")
> - Modiffied  /usr/share/xemacs/xemacs-packages/lisp/ess-5.3.5/lisp/essd-r-args.el file to
comment the tooltip lines:
> (eval-when-compile
>     (require 'tooltip)); for tooltip-show
> 
>
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Martin Maechler | 5 Sep 2007 09:20
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Re: ESS installation with cygwin needs unsetting DISPLAY

>>>>> "NJ" == Nitin Jain <nj7w <at> yahoo.com>
>>>>>     on Tue, 4 Sep 2007 14:32:03 -0700 (PDT) writes:

    NJ> Thanks Rodney.
    NJ> This means that for now, I should use either native xemacs or unset the DISPLAY every time I start cygwin.

or -- excuse the "heresy" -- switch from Xemacs to GNU emacs.
For the latter, you can get the nicely windows pre-installed
setup from Vincent Goulet's site.

Regards,
Martin

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David Scott | 5 Sep 2007 09:41
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XEmacs or GNU Emacs

On Wed, 5 Sep 2007, Martin Maechler wrote:

>>>>>> "NJ" == Nitin Jain <nj7w <at> yahoo.com>
>>>>>>     on Tue, 4 Sep 2007 14:32:03 -0700 (PDT) writes:
>
>    NJ> Thanks Rodney.
>    NJ> This means that for now, I should use either native xemacs or unset the DISPLAY every time I start cygwin.
>
> or -- excuse the "heresy" -- switch from Xemacs to GNU emacs.
> For the latter, you can get the nicely windows pre-installed
> setup from Vincent Goulet's site.
>

Which is a question I have recently been considering.

I have used XEmacs for a few years. My usage is for R with ESS, TeX with 
AUCTeX, sweave, .Rd files for my R package, a bit of mySQL and html.

Does either XEmacs or GNU Emacs have an edge these days? I have got the 
impression the Emacs has advanced more than XEmacs recently.

Any opinions?

David Scott

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Rodney Sparapani | 5 Sep 2007 16:12
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Re: XEmacs or GNU Emacs

David Scott wrote:
>
> 
> Which is a question I have recently been considering.
> 
> I have used XEmacs for a few years. My usage is for R with ESS, TeX with 
> AUCTeX, sweave, .Rd files for my R package, a bit of mySQL and html.
> 
> Does either XEmacs or GNU Emacs have an edge these days? I have got the 
> impression the Emacs has advanced more than XEmacs recently.
> 
> Any opinions?
> 
> David Scott

This is a difficult question to answer.  ESS supports both and they are
roughly equivalent.  My personal opinion is that XEmacs is better on
Unix and Linux due to the wide variety of packages that are available as
a single download (sumo, but ESS is not one of them).  However, Emacs 
has certainly made some recent
improvements and I'd say it is already better on Mac OS X and Windows.
And, of course, why stop there.  There is also TeXmacs which is derived
from Emacs and SXEmacs from XEmacs.

Rodney

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Leo | 5 Sep 2007 17:10
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Re: XEmacs or GNU Emacs

On 2007-09-05 15:12 +0100, Rodney Sparapani wrote:
> This is a difficult question to answer.  ESS supports both and they are
> roughly equivalent.  My personal opinion is that XEmacs is better on
> Unix and Linux due to the wide variety of packages that are available as
> a single download (sumo, but ESS is not one of them).  However, Emacs 
> has certainly made some recent
> improvements 

Nowadays, GNU Emacs is much better than XEmacs.

I have the feeling that XEmacs is dying away due to fewer developers
and inactive community.

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Paul Johnson | 5 Sep 2007 22:51
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Does R fix() or edit() work for you these days?

On Fedora 7 with emacs -22.1-1.fc7 and ESS -5.3.5, I am unable to use
R commands edit() and fix()  on data frames.  Here is the error:

 > fix(myimpdat)
emacsclient: can't find socket; have you started the server?
To start the server in Emacs, type "M-x server-start".
emacsclient: No socket or alternate editor.  Please use:

	--socket-name
	--server-file      (or environment variable EMACS_SERVER_FILE)
	--alternate-editor (or environment variable ALTERNATE_EDITOR)
Error in edit(name, file, title, editor) :
	problem with running editor emacsclient
> edit(myimpdat)
emacsclient: can't find socket; have you started the server?
To start the server in Emacs, type "M-x server-start".
emacsclient: No socket or alternate editor.  Please use:

	--socket-name
	--server-file      (or environment variable EMACS_SERVER_FILE)
	--alternate-editor (or environment variable ALTERNATE_EDITOR)
Error in edit(name, file, title, editor) :
	problem with running editor emacsclient

If I follow these instructions to run M-x server-start, then the
content of the data editor is shown in an Emacs buffer.

I start Emacs - ESS with these options. Are they the cause of my trouble?

;;; Set up emacs-ess for Emacs.
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Martin Maechler | 7 Sep 2007 14:21
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Re: Does R fix() or edit() work for you these days?


>>>>> "PJ" == Paul Johnson <pauljohn32 <at> gmail.com>
>>>>>     on Wed, 5 Sep 2007 15:51:44 -0500 writes:

    PJ> On Fedora 7 with emacs -22.1-1.fc7 and ESS -5.3.5, I am unable to use
    PJ> R commands edit() and fix()  on data frames.  Here is the error:

    >> fix(myimpdat)
    PJ> emacsclient: can't find socket; have you started the server?
    PJ> To start the server in Emacs, type "M-x server-start".
    PJ> emacsclient: No socket or alternate editor.  Please use:

    PJ> --socket-name
    PJ> --server-file      (or environment variable EMACS_SERVER_FILE)
    PJ> --alternate-editor (or environment variable ALTERNATE_EDITOR)
    PJ> Error in edit(name, file, title, editor) :
    PJ> problem with running editor emacsclient
    >> edit(myimpdat)
    PJ> emacsclient: can't find socket; have you started the server?
    PJ> To start the server in Emacs, type "M-x server-start".
    PJ> emacsclient: No socket or alternate editor.  Please use:

    PJ> --socket-name
    PJ> --server-file      (or environment variable EMACS_SERVER_FILE)
    PJ> --alternate-editor (or environment variable ALTERNATE_EDITOR)
    PJ> Error in edit(name, file, title, editor) :
    PJ> problem with running editor emacsclient

    PJ> If I follow these instructions to run M-x server-start, then the
    PJ> content of the data editor is shown in an Emacs buffer.
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David Stivers | 7 Sep 2007 19:57

Re: XEmacs or GNU Emacs

On *nix systems, XEmacs looks much better and causes less eyestrain, because it can use outline fonts  (like
pretty much every other modern application) which support hinting. 

Gnu Emacs can only use zaggy bitmap fonts. There is some effort to bring Gnu Emacs into the 21st century in
this regard, but I don't know when it will succeed.

OTOH, I think that ESS works better under Gnu Emacs.

Yes, I'm annoyed that it's taking so long for gnu emacs to modernize!

David

Rodney Sparapani <rsparapa <at> mcw.edu> wrote: David Scott wrote:
>
> 
> Which is a question I have recently been considering.
> 
> I have used XEmacs for a few years. My usage is for R with ESS, TeX with 
> AUCTeX, sweave, .Rd files for my R package, a bit of mySQL and html.
> 
> Does either XEmacs or GNU Emacs have an edge these days? I have got the 
> impression the Emacs has advanced more than XEmacs recently.
> 
> Any opinions?
> 
> David Scott

This is a difficult question to answer.  ESS supports both and they are
roughly equivalent.  My personal opinion is that XEmacs is better on
Unix and Linux due to the wide variety of packages that are available as
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