Eduardo Ochs | 6 Jan 2013 21:38
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a video about eepitch

Hi list,


there's a new video - just about eepitch, this time -
available at:


Please upgrade to eev2! =)
  Cheers,
    Eduardo Ochs

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Eduardo Ochs | 12 Nov 2012 18:16
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a video about eev2

Hello list (and a few other people),


here's is an introductory video about (the new version of) eev:


The thing is: the "center" of eev has changed - completely.
The documentation is now all in the form of sandboxed tutorials;
there are no non-elisp files anymore; eepitch is now considered
basic, while M-x eev and channels are now considered advanced
features; eejump is now one of the first things that I recommend
people to learn; most of the source code has been rewritten;
there are now standard hyperlinks to audio and video files;
etc, etc.

Bad news to changelog lovers: as this is practically a full rewrite
I am not keeping a changelog for the new version (yet); and
bad news for Debian users: I have not debianized eev2 yet.

Several advanced features of eev have been changed and now
need to be invoked differently. I'll be glad to help if anyone has any
difficulties adapting to eev2 (the e-mails and chat logs will help
me into creating a porting guide and other docs).

  Cheers!
    Eduardo =)

P.S.: I'm using IRC a lot again. Try #eev at freenode...

P.P.S.: the scripts that I used to produce the video are not all
online yet - but they will, soon.

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Eduardo Ochs | 9 May 2012 14:14
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(find-estring "<Put a tutorial here>")

Hello list,

I have been experimenting with another (new?) way of documenting
things: temporary buffers with tutorials, generated by calls like
(find-estring "<Put the tuorial here>"). See:

  http://angg.twu.net/eev-current/eev-intro.el.html

I haven't been testing the tarball in

  http://angg.twu.net/eev-current.tar.gz

much, so some bugs may have crept in - I have been working mostly on
the Debian packages, that are at:

  http://angg.twu.net/debian/
  http://angg.twu.net/debian/README.html ,

especially on the one - "eev-puro" - that has mosts of its docs in
Portuguese =(... I plan to create a version in English of that package
soon, though. As a curiosity, here's a screenshot of Emacs's startup
screen when invoked through the script "emacs-puro" or through its
icon in the desktop menus:

  http://angg.twu.net/IMAGES/emacs-puro.png

Cheers,
  Eduardo Ochs
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  http://angg.twu.net/
Eduardo Ochs | 6 Apr 2012 13:54
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Re: Debian package: first real announcement

Hi Xavier,

> Sorry not to have posted an answer to your previous message but my
> mail server just blowned up.

I remember that as being my fault!... You sent this e-mail to the
mailing list,

  http://lists.nongnu.org/archive/html/eev/2010-04/msg00000.html

and as I felt that I only had a very incomplete answer I sent you an
e-mail in private and promised a fuller, public answer soon - which I
never finished, because it depended on fixing some things that looked
trivial - but the fix became eev-template.el, which took me ages to
write...

> > Its dependencies have been reduced almost to a minimum - just emacs
> > and xterm - and now the recommended way to interact with external
> > programs with CLIs is by using eepitch (which has been rewritten):
>
> Does this mean you will deprecate the /old/ way ?

Sorry, good questions! Let me be clearer about the plan. The other
"ways" besides eepitch will not be deprecated, they will just become
secondary - eepitch will be explained before the other ways in most
docs, and the scripts to invoke eev-rctool, to set up eechannel, and
to test if they work will be rewritten to become eepitch-based.

> > Note that the "eepitch way" does not require any setup at all.
>
> What do you mean by "setup" ? No need of rc_tool ?

Exactly. 8-)

> Will GNU Eev be only eepitch+eev-template in a near future ?

No, but I would like to rearrange the definitions in files to isolate
the parts that depend on eev-rctool from the other parts. This is a
medium-term goal, though.

  Cheers! =)
    Eduardo
Eduardo Ochs | 6 Apr 2012 07:39
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Debian package: first real announcement

Hello list, after a long time...

I just updated the Debian package for eev - see:

  http://angg.twu.net/debian/README.html
  http://angg.twu.net/debian/

Its dependencies have been reduced almost to a minimum - just emacs
and xterm - and now the recommended way to interact with external
programs with CLIs is by using eepitch (which has been rewritten):

  http://angg.twu.net/eev-current/eepitch.el.html
  http://angg.twu.net/eev-current/eepitch.readme.html

Note that the "eepitch way" does not require any setup at all.

Remember that `M-x eev', `M-x eelatex', and friends did require
"prepared shells" and a directory for temporary scripts, and eechannel
required Expect, xterm, and several subtle details... The right thing
to do would be to have eepitch-based scripts to guide the user through
the installation and testing of all that, but that will have to be
left to the future.

Some functions that I considered too ugly and messy have been
rewritten, and the files with their new definitions,

  http://angg.twu.net/eev-current/eepitch.el.html
  http://angg.twu.net/eev-current/eev-template.el.html

are now loaded by

  http://angg.twu.net/eev-current/eev-all.el.html

AFTER the other files, and so some old definitions get overridden by
the newer ones. This may produce some bugs... =\

I would like to know of any problems that may arise - I will try to
hang out at the #eev channel at Freenode as often as possible in the
next few days, and I should have enough spare time for reading and
writing long e-mails over the next two weeks (we're in a sort of
mid-term holidays here)...

  Cheers! 8-)
    Eduardo Ochs
    eduardoochs@...
    http://angg.twu.net/
Eduardo Ochs | 4 Nov 2009 17:30
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Debian package - preliminary announcement

Hello Xavier and List,

On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 8:36 PM, Xavier Maillard <xma@...> wrote:
> I am playing with Fedora and I am looking for a decent fedora package
> for eev. Are you aware of something like that ?

sorry for not announcing this before, but I haven't tested it enough
yet, and it is not in the tarball, not integrated with the Makefile
targets, not documented, etc, etc, but anyway...

  http://angg.twu.net/eev-current/debian/
  http://angg.twu.net/debian/

I gave a workshop using it last week, and there are a handful of
changes that I want to make in the Debian package...

  More soon, cheers,
    Eduardo Ochs
    eduardoochs@...
    http://angg.twu.net/  <-- big mess

P.S.: one of my main problems with updating the eev package is that
htmlize.el is not working well with new Emacsen... more later...
Xavier Maillard | 3 Nov 2009 23:36
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Fedoara package ?

Hi,

I am playing with Fedora and I am looking for a decent fedora package
for eev. Are you aware of something like that ?

Regards,

Xavier
Xavier Maillard | 14 Feb 2009 15:07
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Re: Re: test

Glad to read that !

	Xavier
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Xavier Maillard | 14 Feb 2009 06:25
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test

One, two, three ! Did it hit the eev mailing list ?

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xma | 6 Feb 2009 07:12
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Making demo with eev ?

Hi,

I am planning to demo some cool stuff on my next local LUG
meeting.

We usually do this using OpenOffice.org documents but I want to
change that and use my "own presentation tool" that is to say:
eev.

What I will present is ikiwiki (a wiki compiler) and I am pretty
sure I can take advantage of eev to do both the presentation part
and the "technical demo" part.

Do you have recommendations on doing such thing ? I mean what
should I do (and not do) to make the presentation interesting,
clear and funny ?

I know there are already packages (emacs mode I mean) to do
presentation via emacs but I really want to show both ikiwiki,
emacs and obviously eev.

Any help greatly appreciated.

Regards
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Eduardo Ochs | 31 Aug 2008 20:17
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`M-h M-e': help about eev-mode

Hello list,

here's a cute new feature that is only mentioned - briefly - in the
changelog. `M-h M-e' runs `find-eev-mode-links', that is this:

(defun find-eev-mode-links (&optional arg)
  "Show the docstring for `eev-mode', or jump to the source code.
When ARG is non-nil this function should show a list of
eev-mode-related links - but currently it just jumps to the
location of its own source code."
  (interactive "P")
  (if arg (find-efunction 'find-eev-mode-links)
    (find-efunctiondescr 'eev-mode)))

I'm planning to make `M-?' obsolete at some point.

  Cheers,
    Eduardo Ochs
    eduardoochs@...
    http://angg.twu.net/

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