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Eduardo Ochs | 4 Nov 17:30
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Debian package - preliminary announcement

Hello Xavier and List,

On Tue, Nov 3, 2009 at 8:36 PM, Xavier Maillard <xma@...> wrote:
> I am playing with Fedora and I am looking for a decent fedora package
> for eev. Are you aware of something like that ?

sorry for not announcing this before, but I haven't tested it enough
yet, and it is not in the tarball, not integrated with the Makefile
targets, not documented, etc, etc, but anyway...

  http://angg.twu.net/eev-current/debian/
  http://angg.twu.net/debian/

I gave a workshop using it last week, and there are a handful of
changes that I want to make in the Debian package...

  More soon, cheers,
    Eduardo Ochs
    eduardoochs@...
    http://angg.twu.net/  <-- big mess

P.S.: one of my main problems with updating the eev package is that
htmlize.el is not working well with new Emacsen... more later...
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Xavier Maillard | 3 Nov 23:36
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Fedoara package ?

Hi,

I am playing with Fedora and I am looking for a decent fedora package
for eev. Are you aware of something like that ?

Regards,

Xavier
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Xavier Maillard | 14 Feb 15:07
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Re: Re: test

Glad to read that !

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Xavier Maillard | 14 Feb 06:25
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test

One, two, three ! Did it hit the eev mailing list ?

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xma | 6 Feb 07:12
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Making demo with eev ?

Hi,

I am planning to demo some cool stuff on my next local LUG
meeting.

We usually do this using OpenOffice.org documents but I want to
change that and use my "own presentation tool" that is to say:
eev.

What I will present is ikiwiki (a wiki compiler) and I am pretty
sure I can take advantage of eev to do both the presentation part
and the "technical demo" part.

Do you have recommendations on doing such thing ? I mean what
should I do (and not do) to make the presentation interesting,
clear and funny ?

I know there are already packages (emacs mode I mean) to do
presentation via emacs but I really want to show both ikiwiki,
emacs and obviously eev.

Any help greatly appreciated.

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Eduardo Ochs | 31 Aug 20:17
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`M-h M-e': help about eev-mode

Hello list,

here's a cute new feature that is only mentioned - briefly - in the
changelog. `M-h M-e' runs `find-eev-mode-links', that is this:

(defun find-eev-mode-links (&optional arg)
  "Show the docstring for `eev-mode', or jump to the source code.
When ARG is non-nil this function should show a list of
eev-mode-related links - but currently it just jumps to the
location of its own source code."
  (interactive "P")
  (if arg (find-efunction 'find-eev-mode-links)
    (find-efunctiondescr 'eev-mode)))

I'm planning to make `M-?' obsolete at some point.

  Cheers,
    Eduardo Ochs
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Xavier Maillard | 31 Aug 16:08
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Dilemna

Hi,

I am using eev for months now (with limitted success IMO). Why am
I so hesitant to use eev, I really do not know. I can feel all
the power behind this mode but I am not using it.

In fact, whenever I am trying to something shell-related, I am
used to do it from a shell buffer. I think it takes some getting
used to to automatically think eev.

The other reason I see is that the rare case when I am doing
something in the shell is when I am installing a piece of
software. As I am running slackware, I have to write a slackbuild
(in fact it is a simple shell scripts that tries to follow
standards to install a program). So using eev for such thing is a
no no snce I do not want to clutter with bad installed software.
I always try to make a clean install with a slackware package.

As a DBA, I would (could) probably want to use it but here again
I do not. Why ? Because even if I would use it, I would have to
replace strings here and there to do a basic task such as
rebuilding my indexes or stuff like that. I find it quicker and
easier to type the query.

Another reason I see is that I am not using e-scripts just like
you, I use howm mode for my notes and I jot down things there
without taking care of how things are sorted (I am "tagging" to
easily find something).

Am I doing things wrongly ? Dunno. What I know is that I am
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Eduardo Ochs | 12 Apr 13:00
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manpages from remote machines

Hi Xavier,

> Is there an easy way to the equivalent (find-man "blah") remotely
> instead of the current machine ?
>
> For the e-script needs I mentionned earlier, I typed my commands
> through eepitch-shell on a HP-UX commands which had different
> commands than the one I am using here.
>
> For example, (find-man "newfs") could not work on my notebook
> whereas it could have been on the remote host.

You can use something like this...

  (defun find-netbsdman (manpage &rest rest)
    (let ((buffername (format "*netbsdman: %s*" manpage))
          (format-string "ssh edrx <at> caramelo \"sh -c 'PAGER=cat man %s'\"")
          (command (format format-string manpage)))
      (apply 'find-eoutput-reuse
             buffername
             `(progn (insert (find-sh0 ,command))
                     (Man-fontify-manpage))
             rest)))

Note that the name of the remote machine is fixed ("caramelo"),
and that you will need to be able to run commands on the remote
mahine using ssh without it asking for a password... this is what
I use to make ssh copy the adequate authorization keys:

  # (find-man "1 ssh-copy-id")
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Xavier Maillard | 12 Apr 02:00
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Success !

Hi,

Just a quick message to say how thankful I am to all of you.

I have successfully done my *real* first e-script in the *real*
life. The job was way way easier to do with eepitch-shell than if
I had to type all again by hand. I successfully migrated an
Oracle Dataguard from one machine to another with very few
keystrokes !!

Thank you.

	Xavier
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Xavier Maillard | 12 Apr 02:00
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Questions

Hi,

Is there an easy way to the equivalent (find-man "blah") remotely
instead of the current machine ?

For the e-script needs I mentionned earlier, I typed my commands
through eepitch-shell on a HP-UX commands which had different
commands than the one I am using here.

For example, (find-man "newfs") could not work on my notebook
whereas it could have been on the remote host.

Any clue ?

	Xavier
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Nikos Apostolakis | 8 Apr 18:49
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F3 binding conflict in emacs22

Hello group,

in emacs22 and higher f3 is by default bound to
"kmacro-start-macro-or-insert-counter", a very convenient key IMHO.
Unfortunately this binding conflicts with eev that bounds that key
to "eeb-default".  I use kboard macros all the time and I've grown
accustomed to the f3 key so every time I (re-)install eev I cancel
this binding and bound "eeb-default" to f7 instead.  I wonder
whether you could change this eev binding "officially".

Thanks,
Nikos
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