Daiki Ueno | 1 Jul 2011 01:10
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Re: secure plist store

Ted Zlatanov <tzz <at> lifelogs.com> writes:

> DU> Also, if you use only symmetric encryption, you can remove the
> DU> condition Y: (if (eq key-id 'SYM) X Y)
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> Thanks, I'll do that.

You could simplify more; patch attached:

$ bzr diff --diff-options=-w | diffstat
 auth-source.el |   30 +++++-------------------------
 1 file changed, 5 insertions(+), 25 deletions(-)

BTW, I think you should adjust indentation of the whole file.

Attachment (auth-source.el.diff): text/x-diff, 2436 bytes

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Paul Eggert | 1 Jul 2011 01:17
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Re: bzr help, please

On 06/30/11 15:26, Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen wrote:
> I tried
> unbinding the bound branch I had, and now everything is very confused
> and I don't dare use that any more, and will pull down a new repository.
> 

Here's what I do.  I keep a bound branch named "trunk" that I regularly sync
to the trunk, and I never change it except either (1) by "bzr up",
or (2) by "bzr merge ../someotherbranch && bzr commit -m 'whatever'".
If step (2) fails in the middle, I do a "bzr revert && bzr up &&
(cd ../someotherbranch && bzr merge ../trunk && bzr commit -m 'Merge from trunk.')"
and then go back and redo step (2).  All my real work is done in
../someotherbranch.

I am leaving out all the intermediate steps where I get real work done
(e.g., resolving merge conflicts), but I hope you get the idea.

Andreas Schwab | 1 Jul 2011 01:18

Re: bzr help, please

Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org> writes:

> I guess that's what's called an "unbound branch" in bzr.  I tried
> unbinding the bound branch I had, and now everything is very confused
> and I don't dare use that any more, and will pull down a new repository.

Try bzr reconfigure --tree.

Andreas.

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Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen | 1 Jul 2011 01:25
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Re: bzr help, please

Paul Eggert <eggert <at> cs.ucla.edu> writes:

> I am leaving out all the intermediate steps where I get real work done
> (e.g., resolving merge conflicts), but I hope you get the idea.

Yeah.  But I'm wondering whether it's easier to just go back to the
bound branch thingie.  :-)  I usually do rather small things on the
Emacs code, so the main annoyance is that it takes so long to check
stuff in.

But I think it's perhaps easier to solve that by having a separate Emacs
that I only use for vc mode.

Currently my work flow is

* change some stuff in some functions
* test it
* "bzr update"
* write the changelog really really fast so that there's no other
  commits getting in my way
* commit from vc-mode

The "write the ChangeLogs reall really fast" is, perhaps, the most
annoying bit.  Because if I get a ChangeLog conflict, that's five
minutes out the window while conflict-resoluting, bzr updating again,
checking in again...

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Glenn Morris | 1 Jul 2011 01:26
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Re: debbugs.el revisited

Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen wrote:

> Is there any particular reason emails sometimes take hours to get posted
> to the mailing list?

AFAIK it's a general lists.gnu.org thing (this list seems to have a
similar issue today).

It was fast for a brief time after it moved to its new server, but
lately it seems to be slow again.

If you've got a documented case, you can ask sysadmin <at> gnu.

Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen | 1 Jul 2011 01:34
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Re: debbugs.el revisited

Glenn Morris <rgm <at> gnu.org> writes:

> It was fast for a brief time after it moved to its new server, but
> lately it seems to be slow again.
>
> If you've got a documented case, you can ask sysadmin <at> gnu.

For instance this one.

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Richard Stallman | 1 Jul 2011 02:18
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Re: Emacs and the Status Notification Specification

    Regarding REL, it's not a bad name, but sounds a bit like RHEL, the
    RedHat Enterprise Linux distribution.  So it could be confusing.

RHEL is not mentioned terribly often in our discussions, and it is a
GNU/Linux distro, which is a very different kind of thing from a
library of Lisp packages.  I think the context will usually avoid
confusion.

Thus, this is a small flaw -- much smaller than the problem we are
trying to solve.  If our choice is GELPA or REL, we should definitely
use REL.

Or we could add "GNU" and make it GREL.  Is that better than REL?

REXL, suggested recently, is not bad.  Or GREXL?  GEXL?
Any of them would avoid this predictable confusion.

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Richard Stallman | 1 Jul 2011 02:18
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Re: How does the Emacs bug tracker work?

Isn't marking a bug "wontfix" a way of closing it?

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Richard Stallman | 1 Jul 2011 02:18
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Re: Changing the default for `send-mail-function'

    The main reason for the change is that using a misconfigured MTA leads
    to silently dropped mail which is *really bad*.

Why doesn't it deliver a bounce message?

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chad | 1 Jul 2011 02:50
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Re: Changing the default for `send-mail-function'


On Jun 30, 2011, at 5:18 PM, Richard Stallman wrote:

>    The main reason for the change is that using a misconfigured MTA leads
>    to silently dropped mail which is *really bad*.
> 
> Why doesn't it deliver a bounce message?

How would it do that?  It doesn't know about the user's (actual) external 
mail service, and the local system isn't configured to accept mail.

Back when I had reason to look at such systems regularly, it was not 
unusual to find hundreds of such bounces in root's mbox.

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