Re: What a modern collaboration toolkit looks like
Dan Nicolaescu <dann <at> ics.uci.edu>
2008-01-01 00:27:07 GMT
Eli Zaretskii <eliz <at> gnu.org> writes:
> > Date: Mon, 31 Dec 2007 16:41:08 -0500
> > From: "Eric S. Raymond" <esr <at> thyrsus.com>
> > Cc: esr <at> snark.thyrsus.com, emacs-devel <at> gnu.org
> > I proudly mentioned my work on VC-mode, and got majorly dumped on for
> > bothering with Emacs at all. The kids out there think we're a
> > stagnant backwater, an old-boys club of bearded grognards that has
> > learned nothing and forgotten nothing for the last decade.
> Curiously enough, I'm having an opposite experience these days: a
> bunch of extremely able developers who work for years with MS Visual
> Studio came to respect Emacs, as a viable and powerful alternative to
> the bloated and dog-slow Studio, even on Windows, to say nothing of
> GNU/Linux (this is a dual-platform project, where software is
> developed to run on both systems). All I needed to do is introduce
> them to some optional features, such as Speedbar, ebrowse, and gdb-ui,
> and craft a simple .emacs to bind the various Fn keys to
> compile/run/debug commands they were used to have. After that, I
> never again heard anyone of them laughing at "stagnant backwater" that
> is Emacs.
Care to post an example of such .emacs?
Maybe it can be used as a skeleton for a package for such users, or
maybe we can change some defaults to match such users' expectations.