Triet H. Lai | 1 May 02:07 2002
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Re: Vietnamese update

Hi,

I've added some new translation rules, which seem commonly being used
to escape from composition.

Cheers,
TL
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Richard Stallman | 1 May 09:13 2002
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Re: lisp/ChangeLog coding system

    Yes, but if buffer-file-coding-system is changed, the coding: cookie 
    should be rewritten to reflect that, probably after warning the user 
    about the presence of the cookie and asking for her permission to modify 
    it.

    This is what I meant by ``pay attention''.

Actually changing the file seems rather drastic.
I think we should start with what Dave Love just sent us,
which is just to ask for extra confirmation.
Richard Stallman | 1 May 09:13 2002
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Re: tcp.el is obsolete

    I guess this file should just be removed.

Can anyone confirm that the built-in open-network-stream is supported
on all platforms now?  If that is so, tcp.el and lib-src/tcp.c can
indeed be deleted.
Richard Stallman | 1 May 09:14 2002
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Re: Enhancements to "minor-mode-map-alist" functionality.

    It is a list of alists with the same format and interpretation as
    minor-mode-map-alist.

Would a single added alist do the job?

    Alternatively, an element may look like (lambda . FORM) where FORM is 
    evaluated and should return either nil or a cons (SYMBOL . KEYMAP);

That seems kludgy and ugly.  I would rather allow replacing VARIABLE
with a boolean expression.  Wouldn't that be enough?

I think this is the sort of area where it is better to make smaller
extensions, not larger ones.
Richard Stallman | 1 May 09:14 2002
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Re: enhanced select-safe-coding-system

Your code was based on an older version did not have some other
changes that are in the sources now.  I merged it, and the changes
you made seem to be these.

Does anyone see a problem with these changes?
Handa, do they look correct to you?

*** mule-cmds.el.~1.190.~	Sat Apr 27 23:22:23 2002
--- mule-cmds.el	Wed May  1 01:33:40 2002
***************
*** 636,641 ****
--- 636,651 ----
  	      (setcar l mime-charset))
  	  (setq l (cdr l))))

+       ;; Don't offer variations with locking shift, which you
+       ;; basically never want.
+       (let (l)
+ 	(dolist (elt codings (setq codings (nreverse l)))
+ 	  (unless (or (eq 'coding-category-iso-7-else
+ 			  (coding-system-category elt))
+ 		      (eq 'coding-category-iso-8-else
+ 			  (coding-system-category elt)))
+ 	    (push elt l))))
+ 
        ;; Make sure the offending buffer is displayed.
        (or (stringp from)
  	  (pop-to-buffer bufname))
***************
*** 705,711 ****
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Richard Stallman | 1 May 09:14 2002
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Reported bad code in Emacs configure file

Since this code is generated by autoconf, does someone see
a way to solve this problem?

Is this an autoconf bug?  Should it be generating
doublequotes in such tests?

From: "Daniel Ortmann" <dortmann <at> lsil.com>
To: <rms <at> gnu.org>
Subject: emacs configure: a configure script fix for the march 16 emacs version 21.2
Date: Tue, 30 Apr 2002 13:34:47 -0500
X-Priority: 3 (Normal)
X-MSMail-Priority: Normal
Importance: Normal
X-MimeOLE: Produced By Microsoft MimeOLE V5.50.4133.2400

Hello,

As an experiment, I compiled the march 16 release of emacs 21.2 on a sun
system using "-without-gcc", and had configure crash on the line marked with
"!".

The fix is to put double quotes around the "$emacs_cv_speed_t" variable.  I
have not attempted to analyze and find all such cases.

The system is:
rm22:emacs-21.2$ uname -a
SunOS rm22 5.8 Generic_108528-11 sun4u sparc SUNW,Ultra-Enterprise

*** configure.~1~       Fri Mar 15 06:46:09 2002
--- configure   Tue Apr 30 13:26:28 2002
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Richard Stallman | 1 May 09:14 2002
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Re: Plain text with text properties

Making Emacs save text properties in a useful way calls for a
substantial amount of work--just asking some questions is not enough
by itself.  Would you like to help work on it?
Jim Meyering | 1 May 09:26 2002
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Re: Reported bad code in Emacs configure file

That code comes from configure.in:

dnl Check for speed_t typedef.
AC_CACHE_CHECK(for speed_t, emacs_cv_speed_t,
AC_TRY_COMPILE([#include <termios.h>], [speed_t x = 1;],
  emacs_cv_speed_t=yes, emacs_cv_speed_t=no))
if test $emacs_cv_speed_t = yes; then
  AC_DEFINE(HAVE_SPEED_T, 1, [Define to 1 if `speed_t' is declared by <termios.h>.])
fi

Since that variable is defined either to no or to yes just above
(in the absence of a cached value), I don't see a need for double
quotes, unless he's doing something strange:

  -- he is using a corrupted cache file, or
  -- he has set emacs_cv_speed_t to the empty string in his environment

...
> *** configure.~1~       Fri Mar 15 06:46:09 2002
> --- configure   Tue Apr 30 13:26:28 2002
> ***************
> *** 3039,3045 ****
>   fi
>
>   echo "$ac_t""$emacs_cv_speed_t" 1>&6
> ! if test $emacs_cv_speed_t = yes; then
>     cat >> confdefs.h <<\EOF
>   #define HAVE_SPEED_T 1
>   EOF
> --- 3039,3045 ----
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Karl Eichwalder | 1 May 10:26 2002
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Re: Plain text with text properties

Richard Stallman <rms <at> gnu.org> writes:

> Making Emacs save text properties in a useful way calls for a
> substantial amount of work--just asking some questions is not enough
> by itself.

It's a start.  If Emacs detects text properties in fundamental mode
recommending to switch to enriched mode (M-x enriched-mode RET) could
help; plus a link to the manual.  More isn't needed make the user pay
attention.

> Would you like to help work on it?

Personally I'm more interested in other areas (psgml and DocBook
resp. TEI support using speedbar; improving the usability of
po-mode.el).  Since my knowledge in programming is rather limited, it
takes time.  I think it will help to forward reports of new users (it
hard to convince them to write reports on their own).

--

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Michael Toomim | 1 May 10:33 2002
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Re: The minibuffer vs. Dialog Boxes (Re: Making XEmacs be more up-to-date)

Andy Piper wrote:
>>There are tooltips for the toolbar?
> 
> Are you using XEmacs on windows or UNIX? On windows I made the help for the
> toolbar button appear in a tooltip.

Yeah, unix.

Gmane