Reiner Steib | 29 Mar 12:30 2005

Re: Mailing lists...

On Mon, Mar 28 2005, David Kastrup wrote:

> Reiner Steib <reinersteib+gmane <at>> writes:
>> On Thu, Mar 24 2005, Reiner Steib wrote:
>>> I would propose:
>>> - Keep the current (=old) Gmane groups.
> Not really enthused about that idea.  Can they be hidden from the
> group display, so that article links still work, but the groups are
> not visible in the group overview anymore?

It's no possible to to it in the way I had in mind:

,----[ ]
| inn rejects messages that are already present in the spool, so the
| Message-IDs will change, and all threading will break.

So I will request the Gmane groups for new mailing list now.  We can
think about the archives and the old Gmane groups later.

Bye, Reiner.

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Ian Underwood | 28 Mar 00:04 2005

Prompt for master file

Dear list

I can't get AUCTeX to prompt me for a master file when I open a file, 
new or existing. I've tried adding:

(setq-default TeX-master nil)

to my _emacs file, and it makes no difference. I've also gone into the
customize AUCTeX menu and changed (and saved) the value there to 
'query', but it hasn't made a difference. (I know what the expected 
behaviour is, because it always worked for me under Linux.)


Emacs  : GNU Emacs 21.3.1 (i386-mingw-nt5.1.2600)
  of 2004-03-10 on NYAUMO
Package: AUCTeX 11.55

current state:
  window-system 'w32
  LaTeX-version "2e"
  TeX-style-path '("style/" "auto/" "/c/emacs-21.3//site-lisp/auctex/style/"
  TeX-auto-save nil
  TeX-parse-self nil
  TeX-master nil
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Adam Johnson | 27 Mar 07:21 2005

How to change the font color of "intertext".

The font color inside the command "intertext" of AMS environment "align" is 
same to equation parts.  However, it in fact should share the same color as 
the text parts.  (This is reason it is called "intertext".)  How can I 
change the color scheme?  Thanks.

BTW: I'm using AUCTeX 11.55
                         MikTeX 2.4
                         CVS Emacs
                         Windows XP.
Best Regards,

Dennis W | 26 Mar 12:46 2005

Bug in syntax highlighting

Hi folks,

the following tex file causes problems with AUCTeX when syntax highlighting is
turned on:

===begin file

===end file

actually, this file alone works well, but if I now enter \end or \begin right
below the line containing \label, xemacs hangs as soon as the final letter "d"
resp. "n" is typed in. Typing C-c on the command line where xemacs was invoked
brings it back to life.

Does anyone know about this problem or how to solve it?

Thanks a lot


Emacs  : XEmacs 21.4 (patch 15) "Security Through Obscurity" [Lucid] (i686-pc-linux, Mule) of Mon Nov 29
2004 on mathilda
Package: AUCTeX CVS-1.13 (2005-02-11)

current state:
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David Kastrup | 24 Mar 01:47 2005

Mailing lists...


I have now got all the mailing lists at together and will
configure them in the next few days.  After thinking this over, I have
decided that I shall attempt to transfer all the subscriptions myself.
There are a few problems with this approach:

I am not actually the list owner of the AUCTeX mailing list (or if I
am, I don't know how to make use of it), but the moderator.  I can get
the subscription list, but I don't think I can change it.  I'll
probably try writing a script that will subscribe and unsubscribe
everyone by sending the respective mails to the list managing
software.  This will mean that you will get mails and have to
reconfirm both your unsubscription as well as your subscription.

I'll only transfer the auc-tex list, though: I think that few people
are actually subscribed to the preview-latex-only lists without being
subscribed to AUCTeX as well.  I'll redirect the preview-latex-bugs
list to bug-auctex, and the preview-latex-devel list to auctex-devel.
I think it would make sense to remove the preview-related groups from
gmane altogether: they are already archived at Sourceforge, and people
that look into the then stagnant gmane groups might get the wrong
impression that the project has died.  Of course, not finding any
preview-latex specific group any more might lead to a similar
conclusion.  Sigh.  Maybe one can have a group that only contains a
single article pointing to where one should look instead?

I think Reiner might manage telling the Gmane people what groups to
create and how: he certainly has shown the largest amount of clue
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Frank Küster | 23 Mar 14:40 2005

Insertion of macros with two args is screwed when a region is marked

Remember to cover the basics, that is, what you expected to happen and
what in fact did happen.





Now, with transient-mark-mode enabled, mark the word "hallo" and
insert any macro with C-c C-m that has two mandatory arguments, for
example \parbox (just enter RET for the optional arg).  You'll get:





Of course what I want is either



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Ralf Angeli | 23 Mar 09:54 2005

Two more website styles

As mentioned before the current website design doesn't look too good
in case there is only few content on a page, see

By trying to make the design a little more open, I came to the result
to be seen at <URL:>.

The problem here is that the menu has too much weight compared to the
other parts of the page, the main content is not centered in the area
with the white background and it suspiciously looks like the old
corporate design of Hewlett-Packard.

Thus, I got rid of the box for the container and the menu in the next
iteration which can be found at
<URL:>.  And this
is a solution I can actually live with.

Note that you have to use a Gecko-based browser like Mozilla Browser
or Firefox in order to see the rounded corners of the boxes because I
used a CSS tag not available in other browsers.  This is just for
prototyping and will be exchanged with a browser-independent solution
for the final design.

One remark about the last design: This is actually very cool because
the layout is based on em-units, i.e. it changes proportional to the
font size, whereas the other versions relied on fixed pixel values.
Suppose you are a visually impaired person and need to set a very
large font in your browser.  You can do this by typing `C-+' several
times.  Now watch how the results of doing this differ between the
multipage-3 and multipage-2 layouts.  (Of course, the multipage-2
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David Kastrup | 22 Mar 18:26 2005

Bugs in installing...

Ok, here is the problem: we should really fix the tarball in a way
that if ./configure does not find either Perl or makeinfo, the
build/install will _NOT_ change any files (most of that job probably
can be done by replacing the executable with ":" in the Makefile
variables, as long as they are not used in commands with >something
but rather with -outputfile something).

That means, of course, that the documentation should be part of the

Does somebody volunteer for a "tarball-ready" or "bootstrap" or
similar target in of preview-latex and appropriate changes
for dealing with missing or outdated makeinfo or Perl in
The Makefile target should probably also do most things currently done
by ./


David Kastrup, Kriemhildstr. 15, 44793 Bochum

Jonathan Underwood | 22 Mar 16:37 2005

Quick way to use same size font for all faces?


I have been using auctex for a number of years, but lately I've found 
that the faces in recent versions a little distracting - I'd like to 
revert all faces to using the same (default) font size (the other 
attributes are fine). Is there a quick way to do this, rather than 
having to redefine each face individually?


Frank Küster | 22 Mar 11:44 2005

Error when trying to run LaTeX on a region (region pinning)

Remember to cover the basics, that is, what you expected to happen and
what in fact did happen.

If the bug (or problem) is triggered by a specific (La)TeX
file, you should try to produce a minimal sample file showing the
problem and include it in your report.

Your bug report will be posted to the AUCTeX mailing list.

I was working on a larger file, and in this part:

| \labday{Donnerstag, 3.3.2005}
| \label{cha:donnerstag-3.3.2005}
| \experiment{techstuff}
| \label{sec:techstuff-9}
| \subexperiment{leistung}
| \label{sec:leistung-3}
| Lösungen wie am Montag, mit festgedrehter Fokussierung und Kontrolle
| nach jeder Messung.  Zunächst messe ich bei 15\uW{}, das Deckglas
| schaut aber unsauber aus.  Daher wechsle ich Lösung und Deckglas und
| messe die Spuren \extfile{Pro20\textbf{b}_30pM_##uW_2005-03-03.t3r},
| wobei \texttt{##} für die 
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