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Louise Alcorn | 1 Jul 20:15

RE: Are e-mail discussion lists still relevant?

I have to agree with Thomas that for what you might call largely passive
reading lists, with occasional quick responses, email is still
preferable for me.  I like the forums and 2.0 Ning-type sites for more
collaborative, long-term projects on narrowed topics, e.g. a Drupal
development discussion.  For something more free-ranging on a broad
topics list, such as Web4Lib, I like the email lists with a searchable
archive.  As Thomas says, it's 'in your face' to keep you de rigeur, but
it's also easily deleteable by thread for efficiency.  If Web4Lib were
an online discussion forum, I'd check it maybe once/week and miss a lot.

My 2 cents.   

Louise E. Alcorn
Reference Technology Librarian
West Des Moines Public Library
4000 Mills Civic Pkwy
West Des Moines IA 50265
(515) 222-3573      louise.alcorn@...
http://www.wdmlibrary.org   

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Subject: RE: [Web4lib] Are e-mail discussion lists still relevant?

Due to my workload, I have to make priorities of what I have time to
read.  E-mail is the first and foremost.  It is always up and in my
face.  My RSS feeds I might get to once or twice per week.  Blogs I
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maleskonk | 1 Jul 21:46
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Re: Are e-mail discussion lists still relevant?

Yes, email discussions are still relevant. 

If they ever were in the past, they are as relevant now as ever. They will be relevant as long as email itself
is, since the format is similar to an ongoing "reply all" discussion (if much tidier).

-Rob Malesko
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John Fereira | 2 Jul 13:34
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Re: Are e-mail discussion lists still relevant?

Roy Tennant wrote:
> I'm not sure where this idea that email discussion lists are "silos" any
> more than blogs, wikis, Twitter, etc. 
I would argue that email discussion lists are much less like "silos" 
than blogs, wikis, web forums.   I am on lots of different email lists 
but, for all of them, I only need to go to one place to read or 
participate in them;  my email application.   I don't need to remember 
to go a bunch of different web sites to see if there any new content.   
New messages from all the different topics that I'm interested in are 
pushed to one place for me to read.
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David King | 2 Jul 14:40
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Re: Are e-mail discussion lists still relevant?

Just a comment to that - use RSS - then you don't have to visit blogs,
wikis, and web forums individually. With RSS, everything comes to you in one
place ... just like an email list.

Just sayin.

David Lee King
davidleeking.com - blog
davidleeking.com/etc - videoblog
twitter | skype: davidleeking

On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 6:34 AM, John Fereira <jaf30@...> wrote:

> Roy Tennant wrote:
>
>> I'm not sure where this idea that email discussion lists are "silos" any
>> more than blogs, wikis, Twitter, etc.
>>
> I would argue that email discussion lists are much less like "silos" than
> blogs, wikis, web forums.   I am on lots of different email lists but, for
> all of them, I only need to go to one place to read or participate in them;
>  my email application.   I don't need to remember to go a bunch of different
> web sites to see if there any new content.   New messages from all the
> different topics that I'm interested in are pushed to one place for me to
> read.
>
> _______________________________________________
> Web4lib mailing list
> Web4lib@...
> http://lists.webjunction.org/web4lib/
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Robin | 2 Jul 16:06
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link tracking software

Greetings, (and apologies if this is considered off-topic),

We have satisfactorily used seventwentyfour software for several years
to track and report broken links; now they have outsourced their billing
and fee payment to a third party company and the price appears to have
gone through the roof. Consequently I'm looking for a replacement
package and would greatly appreciate any recommendations (for or
against) or suggestions for alternatives. As always cost is a factor
but, being aware that we generally get what we pay for, I'm prepared to
incur some expense - just not the $2K + they now want.

TIA for any advice!

Robin Boulton  
IT Manager
St. Charles Public Library District
St. Charles, IL 60174
(630) 584 0076 x 258  
Cell:(630) 918 8738 
http://www.stcharleslibrary.org/ <http://www.stcharleslibrary.org/> 
robin@...
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Brian Gray | 2 Jul 16:38
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Re: link tracking software

For web projects I have worked I have always relied on the free xenu link
sleuth. See: http://home.snafu.de/tilman/xenulink.html

Brian Gray
mindspiral@...
bcg8@...

On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 10:06 AM, Robin <robin@...> wrote:

> Greetings, (and apologies if this is considered off-topic),
>
>
>
> We have satisfactorily used seventwentyfour software for several years
> to track and report broken links; now they have outsourced their billing
> and fee payment to a third party company and the price appears to have
> gone through the roof. Consequently I'm looking for a replacement
> package and would greatly appreciate any recommendations (for or
> against) or suggestions for alternatives. As always cost is a factor
> but, being aware that we generally get what we pay for, I'm prepared to
> incur some expense - just not the $2K + they now want.
>
>
>
> TIA for any advice!
>
>
>
> Robin Boulton
> IT Manager
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K.G. Schneider | 2 Jul 16:41

RE: Are e-mail discussion lists still relevant?


> Just a comment to that - use RSS - then you don't have to visit blogs,
> wikis, and web forums individually. With RSS, everything comes to you in
> one
> place ... just like an email list.
> 
> Just sayin.

If you are engaging with peers, colleagues, friends, family, etc. (rather
than simply having things "come to you"), then RSS is not quite as
effective. It may point you to ongoing conversations but you will still have
to use another tool to participate. 

I have found myself disengaging with RSS in some instances and going back to
email because it was a more effective tool. That even includes some
"read-only" behavior, such as commits for an open source project, news
flashes, etc. 

Karen G. Schneider

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David King | 2 Jul 16:46
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Re: Are e-mail discussion lists still relevant?

Don't get me wrong, I see your point and agree with it. I was just
commenting on his part about having to go to individual websites... that's
the hard way to read a blog!

David Lee King
davidleeking.com - blog
davidleeking.com/etc - videoblog
twitter | skype: davidleeking

On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 9:41 AM, K.G. Schneider <kgs@...> wrote:

>
> > Just a comment to that - use RSS - then you don't have to visit blogs,
> > wikis, and web forums individually. With RSS, everything comes to you in
> > one
> > place ... just like an email list.
> >
> > Just sayin.
>
> If you are engaging with peers, colleagues, friends, family, etc. (rather
> than simply having things "come to you"), then RSS is not quite as
> effective. It may point you to ongoing conversations but you will still
> have
> to use another tool to participate.
>
> I have found myself disengaging with RSS in some instances and going back
> to
> email because it was a more effective tool. That even includes some
> "read-only" behavior, such as commits for an open source project, news
> flashes, etc.
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Brian Gray | 2 Jul 16:47
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Re: Are e-mail discussion lists still relevant?

I agree Karen. I even tried to use http://www.cocomment.com/ but found it
did not help keep me in the conversation. The application just was not
effective enough in its capabilities.

RSS is great if you a a lurker OR is the website offers a RSS for comments
directly.

Brian Gray
mindspiral@...
bcg8@...

On Thu, Jul 2, 2009 at 10:41 AM, K.G. Schneider <kgs@...>wrote:

>
> If you are engaging with peers, colleagues, friends, family, etc. (rather
> than simply having things "come to you"), then RSS is not quite as
> effective. It may point you to ongoing conversations but you will still
> have
> to use another tool to participate.
>
> I have found myself disengaging with RSS in some instances and going back
> to
> email because it was a more effective tool. That even includes some
> "read-only" behavior, such as commits for an open source project, news
> flashes, etc.
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LaCrone, David, JCL | 2 Jul 16:59

Survey on Text Messaging in the Library

*apologies for cross-posting*

Does your library offer services via SMS (text messaging) in any way? A group in our leadership training
program is gathering information about other libraries' use of SMS. Please consider completing this
short (8 question) survey:

http://survey.jocolibrary.org/Surveys/TakeSurvey.aspx?s=FFCE7932D1F84AF29A6F91CA33705B70

If you have questions or comments about the survey or SMS in the library, feel free to contact me. Your input
is much appreciated!

David LaCrone
Web Content Developer
Johnson County Library
(913) 495-7548
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