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John Creech | 1 Nov 2006 01:09
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More music questions

Hi.  I got a number of good ideas from the recent "Where to invest in
music collection" thread but am wondering if anyone could could speak to
some technical questions and processes.

On the top floor of our library we have a music collection that consists
of ref materials, sheet music, LPs and CDs, mostly.  We have capital money
for physical remodeling as well as money for hardware and server-based
software apps to offer digital music to our patrons.  We are basically
aware of the status of online subscription services but some on my campus
are expressing a keen urge for us to store and serve audio files.

I and my staff of 3 manage all of our servers, desktops, and apps here in
the building.  My colleagues have asked me to explore hardware/software
solutions for offering online digital audio class reserves.  Whatever
solution we ever went with would likely be unix/linux or Mac Servers -
otherwise they'd have to reside in the campus computing DMZ.

 Would anyone be willing to share any info on how they've proceeded, what 
worked and what didn't, listservs to read, reviews, whatever?  Open source 
solutions are always welcome.  We have to do a major remodel of our comm 
room in the building before we proceed with any implementation so we're 
probably six to twelve months out.

Thanks very much for any suggestions.

John Creech, Systems Librarian
Brooks Library, Central Washington University
400 E. University Way | Ellensburg, WA 98926
office - 509.963.1081
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Ingrid Mason | 1 Nov 2006 03:33
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Announcement: Web Curator Tool

Organisations in the business of building up digital collections, including web material, to meet
heritage or research requirements, may want to consider the potential in the web harvesting and curation
made possible using the Web Curator Tool, please find following an announcement of the tool's release.  

Ingrid Mason

ANNOUNCEMENT

The National Library of New Zealand and The British Library are pleased to announce the release of the Web
Curator Tool as an open-source project.  The tool, and its manuals, FAQs, mailing lists, source code,
developer documentation, and other information, including a presentation, are available from http://webcurator.sf.net/.

About the Web Curator Tool

The Web Curator Tool is a tool for managing the selective web harvesting process. It is designed for
non-technical users in libraries and other collecting institutions who need to capture web material for
archival purposes. The tool's workflow encompasses the following tasks:

* Harvest Authorisation: seeking and recording permission to harvest web material, and to make it
accessible to the general public.

* Selection and scoping: determining what material should be harvested, be it a web site, a web page, a
partial web site, a group (or collection) of web sites, or any combination of these.

* Scheduling: determining when a harvest should occur, and when it should be repeated.

* Description: describing harvests  with basic Dublin Core metadata, and other specialized fields (or a by
a providing a reference to an external catalogue).

* Harvesting: the Web Curator Tool will download the selected web material at the appointed time using the
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Robert Menk | 1 Nov 2006 14:56
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Measuring RSS activity in Apache log files

We have a number of in-house publications that are produced both as 
static html and as xml for RSS readers. I'm trying to get a better 
understanding of what the hits counts in my Apache logs really mean with 
respect to the xml files.

Do RSS readers actually fetch the xml file repeatedly and thus show up 
in the log with an "artificially" high hit count? Or do they just 
compare the date & time stamp they currently have and only fetch the 
file when they're out of synch? (I should probably clarify that these 
particular rss feeds never output individual items incrementally, but 
only get refreshed when an entirely new issue of the publication comes out).

Thanks in advance.

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MIT Lincoln Laboratory Library
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Thomas Bennett | 1 Nov 2006 15:24
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Re: More music questions

Win,Lin, or Mac.  

I haven't used any of these but they look like good candidates.

Last update looks like 06/2004 but it looks pretty full featured
http://www.zope.org/Members/gittew/MyMediaManager
See the descriptive article on MyMediaManager
http://www.zopemag.com/Issue004/Section_Articles/article_MyMediaManager.html
Looks like they are having a problem with their own WEB site right now though:
"You have contacted www.mmmanager.org. Due to technical problems with the 
internet connection the service is currently down.  We expect to be back 
online very shortly."
Looks like security/access would be per the built in Zope security.

There is also Plone4Artists Site product, see:
http://www.plone4artists.org/products
At that site is also, Plone4ArtistsPortfolio providing posdcasting, RSS feeds 
and drag-ndrop addition of content and page layout.  They suggets P4AP for 
Artists and bands to create a portfolio of themselves but as with any 
solution I take their descriptions and then say "how else can I use this?".
Currently only the site, calendar, and audio products have been released and 
as Alpha, the others are in experimental state but work is current with 
updates on the site as recent as 10/22/06.

You may want to look at other available products for Zope and Plone at 
http://www.zope.org/
and
http://www.plone.org

Thomas
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Thomas Dowling | 1 Nov 2006 15:56
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Re: Measuring RSS activity in Apache log files


On 11/1/2006 8:56 AM, Robert Menk wrote:

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> Do RSS readers actually fetch the xml file repeatedly and thus show up
> in the log with an "artificially" high hit count?

That's often the case.  Most RSS readers and aggregators re-GET the RSS
URL every few hours.

On the other hand, web feed aggregators are likely to download your feed
just once for all of their users who subscribe to it, which will drive
down the hit numbers.  This is web stats in a microcosm: all you can
really be sure of is climbing or falling hits over time.

> Or do they just
> compare the date & time stamp they currently have and only fetch the
> file when they're out of synch?

I know that Bloglines sends an If-Modified-Since header and they claim
to honor Not-Modified responses.  If your RSS feeds are static files,
your web server may already be handling that for you; some blog software
does it for you also.  Other readers and aggregators may honor elements
in the feed itself to control when or how often they hit your site -
skipHours and skipDays, and ttl (time to live) for the maximum time a
feed can reside in a cache.

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Ken Varnum | 1 Nov 2006 17:57
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Re: Measuring RSS activity in Apache log files

Along these lines, some aggregators include the number of subscribers  
they are aggregating in their HTTP request (in the user-agent line).  
For example (taken from the Browser report of a recent Analog report):

Bloglines/3.1 (http://www.bloglines.com; 19 subscribers)
NewsGatorOnline/2.0 (http://www.newsgator.com; 7 subscribers)
NewsGatorOnline/2.0 (http://www.newsgator.com; 2 subscribers)
AttensaOnline/1.0 (http://www.attensa.com; 1 subscribers)
Feedshow/1.0 (http://www.feedshow.com; 1 subscriber)

As the number of aggregator subscriber changes, this information  
changes -- so I can see that Bloglines/3.1 had 15 subscribers, then  
16, then 17...

Ken

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On Nov 1, 2006, at 9:56 AM, Thomas Dowling wrote:

> On the other hand, web feed aggregators are likely to download your  
> feed
> just once for all of their users who subscribe to it, which will drive
> down the hit numbers.  This is web stats in a microcosm: all you can
> really be sure of is climbing or falling hits over time.

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John Creech | 1 Nov 2006 19:38
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Re: More music questions

Thomas, thank you very much for responding.  We are moving toward bringing 
up a zope/plone test server to see if that would fit our CMS needs so this 
fits in nicely.  I will check out all of these sites.

John Creech, Systems Librarian
Brooks Library, Central Washington University

On Wed, 1 Nov 2006, Thomas Bennett wrote:

> Win,Lin, or Mac.  
> 
> I haven't used any of these but they look like good candidates.
> 
> Last update looks like 06/2004 but it looks pretty full featured
> http://www.zope.org/Members/gittew/MyMediaManager
> See the descriptive article on MyMediaManager
> http://www.zopemag.com/Issue004/Section_Articles/article_MyMediaManager.html
> Looks like they are having a problem with their own WEB site right now though:
> "You have contacted www.mmmanager.org. Due to technical problems with the 
> internet connection the service is currently down.  We expect to be back 
> online very shortly."
> Looks like security/access would be per the built in Zope security.
> 
> There is also Plone4Artists Site product, see:
> http://www.plone4artists.org/products
> At that site is also, Plone4ArtistsPortfolio providing posdcasting, RSS feeds 
> and drag-ndrop addition of content and page layout.  They suggets P4AP for 
> Artists and bands to create a portfolio of themselves but as with any 
> solution I take their descriptions and then say "how else can I use this?".
> Currently only the site, calendar, and audio products have been released and
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Tom Keays | 1 Nov 2006 20:30
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Re: Valid substitute for body onLoad()

Yep. Great book on this topic. I second the recommendation.

On 10/31/06, Stephen Meyer <smeyer@...> wrote:
> In Jeremy Keith's book DOM Scripting, which provides a good introduction
> to unobtrusive JavaScript, ...

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Jeremy Dunck | 1 Nov 2006 20:49
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Re: Google buys a wiki

JotSpot isn't a wiki in the conventional sense.

It's more accurate to think of it as MS Access for the web, with a
wiki front-end.

On 11/1/06, B.G. Sloan <bgsloan2@...> wrote:
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>   "Google Inc., expanding its efforts at providing software that helps users create and post their own
materials on the Internet, has acquired a California startup that develops online collaboration tools
known as wikis."
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Andrew Nagy | 1 Nov 2006 21:13
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Re: Google buys a wiki

Regardless of it's format, it's good.  It's much more like MS office.  
It has a MS Project like project management tool, and a spreadsheet, 
etc.  I have been using Jot to manage a project with a small team and it 
has worked really well.

Anyone got any good ideas for a new web 2.0 project to create and sell 
to Google for billions?  I'll go in halfsies with you.

Andrew

Jeremy Dunck wrote:

> JotSpot isn't a wiki in the conventional sense.
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> It's more accurate to think of it as MS Access for the web, with a
> wiki front-end.
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> On 11/1/06, B.G. Sloan <bgsloan2@...> wrote:
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>>
>>   "Google Inc., expanding its efforts at providing software that 
>> helps users create and post their own materials on the Internet, has 
>> acquired a California startup that develops online collaboration 
>> tools known as wikis."
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