Stacy Pober | 1 Oct 01:13
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Content Management Systems

When our institution redesigned its website, they also changed the uploading
of departmental pages.  Where previously, schools and departments  
could directly
control their webpages if they wished, now the page updates are sent through
a gatekeeper.

Primarily, this seems to be because they don't want to see design changes to
the new layout. It's not the content they are worried about, it's the format.
I know that a vendor of one CMS system has contacted them, but it's a rather
expensive system, and I think the cost might have been a major factor in their
declining to even look at the product.

I would like to encourage them to get a Content Management System, and I
know there are a large variety of open source and more traditional (expensive)
solutions.  So... any suggestions on how to encourage this change?

It feels awkward to suggest a specific package, since we have no say in the
overall design.  On the other hand, our more general suggestion to get a
CMS has not been heeded.  I have looked at some of the materinal on the
open source CMS site, but if you can give me some specific suggestions
(or "here's  how we did it" success stories) it would help.

--
Stacy Pober
Information Alchemist
Manhattan College
O'Malley Library
Riverdale, NY 10471
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Tim Spalding | 1 Oct 03:04
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Re: Conversion between ISBN-10 and ISBN-13

The inestimable John Blyberg ported some ISBN10/13 tools to PHP. See
http://www.blyberg.net/2006/04/05/php-port-of-isbn-1013-tool/ .

I've noticed his valid-10 script has errors—there's a comment about it there.

Tim

On 9/30/06, Rick Mason <rcmason@...> wrote:
> Hi David,
>
> According to the Wikipedia entry (i.e. don't start coding until you have
> confirmed the information elsewhere), the first three digits are a, EAN
> County Code for an imaginary country called "Bookland".  There are two
> codes for Bookland:  978 for existing ISBN codes (you can safely assume
> that the last 10 digits are an existing ISBN-10 and can be handled as
> such), and 979 for pure ISBN-13 codes.
>
> It probably isn't a good idea to convert 979 codes to 10-digit ISBN
> systems because a) they use different check-digit calculations, and b)
> the final ten digits of an ISBN-13 can't be converted back into a valid
> ISBN-13 unless you somehow note that it needs the 979 appended.
>
> Sites:
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Isbn
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bookland_%28imaginary_place%29
> http://www.gs1.org/
>
> Hope this helps!  Good luck, if you decide to code it yourself!
>
> Rick Mason
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Tim Spalding | 1 Oct 03:47
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Re: hybrid library: from the users' perspective

My pet peve: type "England" in the location field and it guesses that
you mean—and I quote: "Berg en Dal, NL"

Holland gets you: "Hoßkirch, DE."

"The Netherlands" works, of course. But "Scotland," "Wales," "Northern
Ireland," etc. produce either nothing or gibberish places in Canada.
Given the "NL" and "DE," one would think that you could call countries
by their own names, but although Deutschland and Nederlands works,
Espagne does not--although Spanish is one of the four languages they
specially favor. If you're in the German Worldcat you can't refer to
Frankreich (France), or to Allemagne (Germany) in the French one. As
far as I can tell, all other counries with books in the system also
fail in French and German (eg., "Slovénie," "Angleterre," "Arabie
saoudite".) Frners of the world, learn our place names!

Seems an odd slip considering the name....

Tim

PS: Do as I say, not as I do. We're going to be rolling out
internationalization soon, and BOY is it a challenge!
PPS: I love the LCSHs for Lolita:

Middle-aged men -- Fiction.
Girls -- Fiction.

Hmmm....
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talia679.31931317 | 1 Oct 06:34
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Re: Conferences for web librarians

I haven't read the other responses yet so I won't recommend any other conferences
yet - but if I could attend one a year it would be Internet Librarian.  I
love Computers in Libraries, but I found that I learned more at Internet Librarian
last year.

Thanks
Nicole Engard
http://web2learning.net

--- Jonathan
Bloy" <JBloy@... wrote:
Last spring I attended the Computers in
Libraries conference for the
> first time (which I thought was very worthwhile).

> 
> I am aware of Internet Librarian, and the Libraries and Info Technology

> Assn. annual conference.  Are there any other big conferences (in North

> America) for us web librarian types?
> 
> If you could go to one conference
every year, which would it be?
> 
> --
> Jonathan Bloy
> Web Services
Librarian
> Edgewood College
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talia679.31931317 | 1 Oct 06:41
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Re: Conferences for web librarians

I haven't attended thihs - but there is code4lib: http://www.code4lib.org/conference/

There is also a neat database of conferences at: http://www.hitchhikr.com/

Enjoy!

Thanks
Nicole Engard
http://web2learning.net

--- Jonathan
Bloy" <JBloy@... wrote:
Last spring I attended the Computers in
Libraries conference for the
> first time (which I thought was very worthwhile).

> 
> I am aware of Internet Librarian, and the Libraries and Info Technology

> Assn. annual conference.  Are there any other big conferences (in North

> America) for us web librarian types?
> 
> If you could go to one conference
every year, which would it be?
> 
> --
> Jonathan Bloy
> Web Services
Librarian
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David Pattern | 1 Oct 10:00
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Re: Conversion between ISBN-10 and ISBN-13

> Hi,
> 
> Can anyone tell me what the conversion between ISBN-10 and ISBN-13 is,
> please.  I need to write a little conversion program.  Anything in PHP,
> for example.
> 
> Thanks a lot.
> David Kane

Hi David

John Blyberg has done a PHP port of a Perl conversion script: 
http://www.blyberg.net/2006/04/05/php-port-of-isbn-1013-tool/

regards
Dave Pattern
University of Huddersfield

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Paul F. Schaffner | 1 Oct 20:23
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Re: Conversion between ISBN-10 and ISBN-13

Patricial Anderson wrote:

> To go from 13 to 10 is easy -- the isbn-10 is the last 10 digits of the 
> isbn-13.

No it's not. As long as we are still within the 978- range of ISBN-13s,
the first nine digits of the ISBN-10 and the penultimate nine
digits of the ISBN 13 should match, but the final digit (the check
digit) will normally *not* be the same.

Below are some crude perl scripts I wrote to convert lists of ISBN-10s to
ISBN-13 and 978-prefixed ISBN-13s to ISBN-10. My apologies for the 
crudity of the perl--it was just for fun, in the interests of 
understanding (and making some marginal improvements in my perl skills).
However, their very verbosity may make the basics of the conversion clear.
pfs
---------------------------------------------------------------------
Paul Schaffner | pfs@... | http://www-personal.umich.edu/~pfs/
Digital Library Production Service, University of Michigan Libraries
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# ----beginning of script ---
# FILENAME make_isbn13.pl
# Input is text file containing ISBN-10s, one ISBN per line.
# Output is text file containing hash of ISBN-10s paired with equivalent 
# ISBN-13s.
# Sample usage: C:\perl make_isbn13.pl ISBN10s.txt > ISBN13s.txt
# Will fail silently on ISBNs that do not contain 10 digits.
# Does not attempt to check if the ISBN10s are valid otherwise.
# More elaborate and elegant code can be found in the Mana Systems perl 
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Rick Mason | 1 Oct 20:41

Re: Conversion between ISBN-10 and ISBN-13

Rick Mason also wrote something similar...

Thanks for correcting my (our) error!

Rick

Paul F. Schaffner wrote:
> Patricial Anderson wrote:
>
>> To go from 13 to 10 is easy -- the isbn-10 is the last 10 digits of 
>> the isbn-13.
>
> No it's not. As long as we are still within the 978- range of ISBN-13s,
> the first nine digits of the ISBN-10 and the penultimate nine
> digits of the ISBN 13 should match, but the final digit (the check
> digit) will normally *not* be the same.
>
> Below are some crude perl scripts I wrote to convert lists of ISBN-10s to
> ISBN-13 and 978-prefixed ISBN-13s to ISBN-10. My apologies for the 
> crudity of the perl--it was just for fun, in the interests of 
> understanding (and making some marginal improvements in my perl skills).
> However, their very verbosity may make the basics of the conversion 
> clear.
> pfs
> ---------------------------------------------------------------------
> Paul Schaffner | pfs@... | http://www-personal.umich.edu/~pfs/
> Digital Library Production Service, University of Michigan Libraries
> -------------------------------------------------------------------- 
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Sutherland, Paul | 2 Oct 06:06
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RE: EBSCOhost Connection

Has anyone got a search that returns a result with EBSCOhost connections
in the list - or a URL that generates one

The illustrations at
http://support.epnet.com/uploads/kb/ehost_connection_help_sheet_copy1.do
c dont work

I would like to see how this works - especially in a non-US context...

thanks

Paul

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David Kane | 2 Oct 13:32
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III XML Server (Was ISBN 10->13 conv.)

Hi again,

Thanks for the script, Paul.  Gave it a quick test, however I'll go for
John Blyberg's PHP, thanks to Tim and Dave for that link.

I notice from Blyberg's page that there are good resources for
connecting to III's XML Server.  
It looks as if III are liberating our data, at last.  Exciting stuff,
but what price freedom, I wonder?

Does anyone here use III's XML Server?  If so, why did you get it and
what do you use it for?

Best,
>>> "David Kane" <dkane@...> 30/09/2006 10:50 >>>
Hi,

Can anyone tell me what the conversion between ISBN-10 and ISBN-13 is,
please.  I need to write a little conversion program.  Anything in
PHP,
for example.

Thanks a lot.

David Kane
Waterford Institute of Technology
http://library.wit.ie/ 
T: ++353.51302838
M: ++353.876693212
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