pijush_dey | 1 Jun 2007 08:34
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Dear Sir/Madam,

Hello. My name is Pijush Dey. I am a 1st year CS student in Institute 
of Engineering & Management, Kolkata. A few days ago, I came to know 
about your organisation.

I have seen in my college, that a very horrible kind of mental torture 
is done here by the senior students. Moreover, in the hostels, at the 
night, it is just a nightmare! As I am going to get in 2nd year in 
coming July,2007; new students will get admitted in the 1st year. And, 
I am determined that, I would not let them happen the same thing that I 
had gone through....!

So, its my request to you how please let me know, what to do & how?

Thanking you,
Sincerely yours,
Pijush Dey

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Colleges are re-opening and this means that it's going to be a pretty nerve-wracking experience for freshers. It’s that time of year again. Colleges are re-opening and this means that it's going to be a pretty nerve-wracking experience for freshers. It's not just that they're going to be in a new institution and that many will be in a new city altogether ; it's the initiation that they will have to undergo in the form of ragging. And with the Supreme Court saying that ragging is now considered a punishable offence, will that change things for freshers and their college experience?

IT'S JUST SOCIAL INTERACTION

Many students are of the opinion that ragging, at least in Bangalore, is just harmless fun. When mass communication student Baniaikynmaw Shanpru came to Bangalore to do her MA at Commits, she was apprehensive about the ragging she had to face. "I didn't know what it would be like," she says, "but there was nothing extreme. We had to wear white clothes and we were made to dance. I'd call it an interactive session between the seniors and the juniors." Arlene Kharnongrum, a postgraduate student, who did her undergrad in Jyothi Nivas College says she went through fun ragging there. "I've only done the harmless stuff like singing. That's fine and you get to know your seniors," she says. Joash Benjamin, who will join Christ College in a couple of weeks, says that he's not worried about ragging. "It might happen, but I know my seniors already, so it won't be anything I can't handle," he says.

BUT WHAT IF IT'S EXTREME?

Others say that ragging is acceptable to a certain extent, but there are times when it can get out of control and that's when limits have to be set. "Ragging can be permitted, but there must be rules on where to draw the line," says management student student Abhishek Gopal. "Seniors should be called before the juniors come and told that this is as far as it can go. If you cross that, you're liable for punishment." he says. Jemima Mohan, who has just passed out from JNC and is going to join Christ College, says that she's worried about the ragging she'll face at her new college because she's seen what her seniors used to do at her previous one. "Juniors would ask for directions to get to a classroom and the seniors would give them the wrong directions. They'd go to a class and there'd be seniors when you opened the door and they'd laugh. That's embarrassing. That's why I feel ragging shouldn't be allowed because it doesn't help you open up to your seniors," she says.

IS THE SC RULING JUSTIFIED?

Anand Rao, who's a student at a medical college in Bangalore, says he's heard of instances of ragging getting out of hand. "If you're firm about what you will do and what you won't , it's alright. But if the person being ragged is insecure, then it can get out of control. If your seniors ask you to strip completely and you do, comments will be passed and the person being ragged will go home or go back to the hostel weeping," he says. Anand adds that ragging could be supervised, but adds it's not always practical. "So in a sense, it's better to ban it or to pass a law making it a punishable offence, but that might push it underground."

Abhishek, however, says the onus should be on the management. "This is not something that needs the SC's intervention. It is, at the most basic level, a way for juniors to get to know their seniors and the management should set certain rules to ensure it doesn't get out of hand," he says.

Even John Joseph Kennedy, a lecturer at Christ College, says it's up to the teachers to be alert at the beginning of the year. "The SC should not be brought into this. But teachers have to be alert and must be able to distinguish between casual ragging and more serious forms and then step in accordingly," he says.

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Anuradha Prabhudesai, counselling psychologist "The government's move to make ragging a punishable offence was necessary. Ragging is a major fear among most students and is more prevalent in medical schools and engineering colleges, especially in the districts. Such cases are often extreme so such a law should have been passed long ago. Students today are already under so much stress with respect to marks, admissions, curriculum - ragging adds on to the overall pressure.

Ragging can cause serious and severe mental damage to a child. It makes it difficult for students to muster up the courage and gain back their self-esteem to continue in college. Ragging is more about humiliation, a strong sense of rejection and fear that students face. People make excuses saying it's another way of making friends but one doesn't need to humiliate the other to be friends."

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Mohit Garg | 1 Jun 2007 08:49
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Hi Pijush,

Thanks for your email. I will write to you personally.

Warm Regards
Mohit Garg

On 6/1/07, pijush_dey < pijush_dey-/E1597aS9LQxFYw1CcD5bw@public.gmane.org> wrote:

Dear Sir/Madam,

Hello. My name is Pijush Dey. I am a 1st year CS student in Institute
of Engineering & Management, Kolkata. A few days ago, I came to know
about your organisation.

I have seen in my college, that a very horrible kind of mental torture
is done here by the senior students. Moreover, in the hostels, at the
night, it is just a nightmare! As I am going to get in 2nd year in
coming July,2007; new students will get admitted in the 1st year. And,
I am determined that, I would not let them happen the same thing that I
had gone through....!

So, its my request to you how please let me know, what to do & how?

Thanking you,
Sincerely yours,
Pijush Dey




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AKSHAY BHAT | 1 Jun 2007 09:04
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hello
even i have a certain experience in this case

the best you can do is to to write an email to your institute director about how things go .
also as far as telling to professors is concerned i would suggest you send mail to all the faculty. then it becomes an obligation on them if you send it only to a certain professor there is a chance that it might get ignored.
better if possible post it to board of governors of your institute as well
it takes very small time to open a fake account on yahoo.

also if you put that mail on orkut again anonymously on your college community it will make difficult for raggers to work.

most importantly name things done in ragging when generally at what time how it's detection is avoided and important information.
however it is important that no naming should be done never give name of any person in mail including you r and of raggers.

let world know how things happen and let professors and juniors as well this will make the ragging juniors 10 times difficult if you send it to board of governors etc. there will be a quick action.

this i believe is best strategy.

pijush_dey <pijush_dey-/E1597aS9LQxFYw1CcD5bw@public.gmane.org> wrote:
Dear Sir/Madam,

Hello. My name is Pijush Dey. I am a 1st year CS student in Institute
of Engineering & Management, Kolkata. A few days ago, I came to know
about your organisation.

I have seen in my college, that a very horrible kind of mental torture
is done here by the senior students. Moreover, in the hostels, at the
night, it is just a nightmare! As I am going to get in 2nd year in
coming July,2007; new students will get admitted in the 1st year. And,
I am determined that, I would not let them happen the same thing that I
had gone through....!

So, its my request to you how please let me know, what to do & how?

Thanking you,
Sincerely yours,
Pijush Dey


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What is CURE: The NoRagging Group

CURE was started by two students in the year 2001 under the banner of The
NoRagging Group. We started with an Online Discussion group and an informative
website. From that time, we have come a long way and today we are in process of joining an NGO as an independent
unit under them. We aspire to mature to an independent NGO by next year.

I will like to take you through our journey and activities across these three
years. For the first year CURE was basically an online group and extended
help by educating public about the phenomenon of ragging and extending support
to victims through emails.
In the year 2002, Harsh and Rajiv joined CURE and gave it a new lease of life. At the same time, many dedicated
members including Kiran, Rajan Srivastav,
etc. joined our group. This year and the coming year was an era of activity
which also led to the re-christening of The NoRagging Group to Coalition to
Uproot Ragging from Education.
Due to Rajan Srivastav, we were able to publish the story of Harsh far and
wide through an NGO magazine, thus making public more aware. Rajiv helped
us organizing a talk at Unnati’s (NGO) Seminar. This paved way and CURE
addressed talk show on Sab TV, organized talk show for DD-Bharti, etc.
Today, CURE has matured, it has a clear understanding of what it wants to do,
what are its policies, has an organizational structure and a list of projects it
want to take-up.
Welcome to CURE, we require your support to end the menace of ragging.

CURE Principle
CURE is against severe physical and sexual ragging, while we are open to discussion on mild forms of ragging.

Objectives of CURE
Ø Dent the public opinion about ragging by spreading awareness.
Ø Maintain a record of ragging incidents, news, measures, etc. to
create a permanent reference.
Ø Convince faculty and institutions to start Anti-Ragging Programmes.
Ø To devise alternate interesting means of interaction between
freshers and seniors.
Ø Prevent ragging by setting up CURE Student Chapters at colleges.
Ø Counsel victims and help them get justice.

Implementation Projects
Ø Publication of a periodical to update you about ragging.
Ø Maintenance of the online website with constant updating.
Ø Arrange talks at colleges, NGO seminars.
Ø Establishment of Student Chapters at colleges.
Ø Arrange an all-India essay competition on ragging to divert attention
of public towards ragging.
Ø F-CURE: Arrange a network of faculty cooperation across India to
prevent ragging.
Ø Arrange a mega-seminar on ragging.
Ø Try to put-up an activist movement
to get justice to ragging victims.

How we work at CURE?
CURE has a hierarchy on the lines of NGOs, which gets elected democratically
annually. The idea of hierarchy is to streamline energy and reach decisions,
while management is very flexible.
CURE members have brainstormed many projects as noted in the previous
section. CURE looks for people who could get involved in these projects (or
conceptualize new ones) as conveners or volunteers.
These project are/will be managed by conveners independently with support
from all CURE members.

What CURE is looking for?
Volunteers for taking movement against ragging forward.
Financial Aid for financing various CURE projects.
Reciprocal links with educational institutions and organizations.

Did you know that...
CURE has evolved from an initial membership of just 4 to 170 members.
CURE has chapters at Delhi, Bombay, Pune, Kanpur and (soon in) Bangalore.
The CURE website is the only online dedicated forum to condemn ragging.
CURE has contact with noted psychiatrist, Dr. V. M. Sharma, Vimhans for
online counseling of victims.
CURE has presented seminars at Unnati (NGO), organised DD-Bharti Show, etc.
CURE had actively pursued Harsh’s case through letters and emails to serve as
an eye opener to the society.
CURE is in contact with international organizations such as ‘Play for Peace’
and ‘Ofafoo’ to work together and initiate innovative activities in colleges.

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Harsh Nanda | 1 Jun 2007 16:44
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when i was getting ragged i thought about doing that and could actually pull it off cause i personally knew a professor here...

but  i think in piyush's case it will be different cause now that he posted the message here he might become a target  of his peers and seniors whenever it is known that a complaint has been lodged against them whether he did it or not... i suggest he takes care in this issue

On 6/1/07, AKSHAY BHAT <akshayudaybhat-/E1597aS9LQAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:

hello
even i have a certain experience in this case

the best you can do is to to write an email to your institute director about how things go .
also as far as telling to professors is concerned i would suggest you send mail to all the faculty. then it becomes an obligation on them if you send it only to a certain professor there is a chance that it might get ignored.
better if possible post it to board of governors of your institute as well
it takes very small time to open a fake account on yahoo.

also if you put that mail on orkut again anonymously on your college community it will make difficult for raggers to work.

most importantly name things done in ragging when generally at what time how it's detection is avoided and important information.
however it is important that no naming should be done never give name of any person in mail including your and of raggers.

let world know how things happen and let professors and juniors as well this will make the ragging juniors 10 times difficult if you send it to board of governors etc. there will be a quick action.

this i believe is best strategy.

pijush_dey < pijush_dey <at> yahoo.co.in> wrote:

Dear Sir/Madam,

Hello. My name is Pijush Dey. I am a 1st year CS student in Institute
of Engineering & Management, Kolkata. A few days ago, I came to know
about your organisation.

I have seen in my college, that a very horrible kind of mental torture
is done here by the senior students. Moreover, in the hostels, at the
night, it is just a nightmare! As I am going to get in 2nd year in
coming July,2007; new students will get admitted in the 1st year. And,
I am determined that, I would not let them happen the same thing that I
had gone through....!

So, its my request to you how please let me know, what to do & how?

Thanking you,
Sincerely yours,
Pijush Dey


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Agartala, June 1: Torture on a first year student has tarred the reputation of Agartala Medical College. A team of the Medical Council of India is scheduled to visit the college soon.

The landmark judgment by the Supreme Court banning ragging in schools and colleges was of little use for Arijit Sen, a first year student of the college, who had to discontinue his studies. His father Biswabandhu Sen, a senior Congress leader, took away his son’s belongings from the college hostel yesterday.

Sen, a resident of Dharmangar subdivisional town of North Tripura, said his son had been targeted by some second year students who often used to pressure him to bring money. “Even after he informed the principal, no action was taken,” Sen said.

After they came to know about the complaint in March this year, senior students Santanu Das, Benoy Debnath, Rajesh Nath and Niladri Debbarma dragged Arijit to a desolate place and asked him to kneel down. They then used safety pins to pierce his fingers. He was also kicked and beaten up. When Arijit lay unconscious, the four, identified by Arijit’s father, left the spot.

Ever since Arijit checked into room 118 in the new hostel building, he was bullied. “On the very first night, he was beaten up and the seniors demanded that he shell out money. On May 11, he was taken to the roof of a building under construction and again roughed up,” Sen said, adding that they then held him hanging down from a parapet and told that police would believe it to be a case of suicide if they dropped him.

Sen wrote a letter to the principal on May 15 saying his son would not be able to continue studies and took Arijit back home yesterday. He had also brought the matter to the notice of health minister Tapan Chakraborty.

Denying allegations of torture, principal Dilip Chandra Das said: “The boy has a psychological problem and we asked him to stay back.”

“His guardians have not given anything in writing,” Das said. He, however, said that he was taking action against the accused.

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Mohit Garg | 2 Jun 2007 05:58
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Re: Your Views on Ragging

Hi Gaurav,

The SC order is out. You can find it at
http://www.noragging.com/laws/supreme-court-order-may-2007.html

This is an interim order and the court will take this up again in
September 2007 after monitoring the implementation of the order.

regards
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> when supreme courts judgement will be out? do you have any idea,
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> 
> The recent SC interim judgement on ragging has evoked a lot of
reactions from all across the country and even abroad. We have also
received emails from many of you about your views and opinions on the
issue. 
> 
> We encourage all of you to post your views on the judgement and any
other ragging related events on the related posts on the CURE blog at
http://www.noragging.blogspot.com 
> We believe that it can be a great place to discuss and react on
specific events related to ragging.
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> Your voice and your views are welcome.
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New Delhi, June 1: In line with the Supreme Court’s interim guidelines issued to educational institutions on the basis of the RK Raghavan committee on ragging, most colleges have begun setting up anti-ragging committees.

In a meeting with college principals and the police last week, varsity authorities asked all 79 colleges under the university to take necessary steps to avoid any “unsolicited attempts” by seniors when sessions begin.

While the anti-ragging panels, consisting of teachers, students and hostel wardens, will conduct surprise checks at hostels, canteens and bus stops, colleges like Hansraj and Hindu are planning to install surveillance cameras on campus. A few colleges like Kirori Mal and Ramjas already have cameras on campus. “We will send a proposal to the UGC next week seeking funds,” said Kavita Sharma, Principal, Hindu College.

IP College for Women plans to take a step further. A small squad of teachers and students from the college’s proctorial committee plan to conduct surprise checks in paying guest accommodations.

“The committee will make a list of students living in PGs and visit their landlords. We will also ask them to report any ragging that may take place,” said Manasvini Yogi, publicity incharge at the college.

Meanwhile, Delhi Police have put up posters discouraging ragging at campuses. The number of cops in plain clothes deployed outside colleges has also gone up. “There are 5 policemen deployed outside every college but they have been asked not to enter unless necessary,” said Prof SK Arora, Principal, Hansraj College. Colleges like Kirori Mal have also hired private security guards. Proctor Gurmeet Singh said the varsity ordinances on ragging and indiscipline will be strictly enforced.

“We have already written to all principals asking them to abide by SC and existing university guidelines on ragging. We’ll send another letter in the next few days as an advisory to reiterate what we have said before, which is to activate proctorial boards, volunteers from NCC and NSS and highlight university ordinances on ragging, among others,” Singh said.

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some questions to ragging proponents.

Dear all members,

 

                                    I am an ardent opponent of ragging and used to derecognize it in any form from the beginning of my career. I would like to use this moment to share some of my views regarding the same.

 

Some people argue that ragging should not be banned as it boosts up self confidence and communication skill in those students who are lacking it. would like to ask these intellect proponents few questions. First would they do such things to their own sister/brother in home who too may lack self confidence? Secondly who are you to take the right yourself to teach forcibly to a student with whom you can't legally have any control? Do you really wish that those juniors should develop their confident and abilities to cope with this fast changing world? If it so, can't you achieve the same with cordial interaction?

 

Many seniors argue that they take revenge on juniors for what they have suffered by their seniors. Alas! What a fantastic justification? Let me tell you one thing that revenge is something which is done to the perpetrator. The perpetrator in this case is nothing but your. How you take revenge by passing this evil to an innocent child who comes with flying colors to get a degree? O.k.' if a person slaps you who is mightier than you would you take revenge by slapping a third person who is not at all involved in that act by any way?

 

One more group of people argues that ragging is of two types. One is good another is evil. Can these people tell where the line of demarcation exists between these two? Do they want the government/management/judiciary should list out the good ragging activities for the guidance of seniors? If good ragging is allowed (as defined by themselves0 would they shoulder the full onus for bad ragging not to happen?)

 

Another group of intellects warns that there won't be any interaction between juniors and seniors without ragging. Nice. I kindly request these intellects to visit those colleges in which ragging does not at all exist. They can find lots of juniors and seniors behave treat each other like their own brothers and sisters. Let me quote for example my college in Punjab "Sant Longowal Institute of engineering and Technology". This college has 8 hostels and accommodates nearly about 2000 students who don't know the meaning of Ragging.

 

Last but not the least I kindly request the proponents of ragging to go thro' the below given definition of the same as in wikipedia which is famously known for it's reliable content.

 

"Ragging (also called fagging in Britain and hazing in USA) is the systematic ritual physical and psychological abuse of freshmen or other juniors by their seniors in an educational setup, with the purported intent of socially inducting the newcomers into the group."

 

 

Regards,

 

J.Swami Dass

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