Re: Mahrosa newspaper archives

John,

We bought an 8-volume set of theirs some years ago entitled 
al-Islamiyun wa-Nasr Hamid Abu Zayd. I do not think this particular 
set was indexed.

For online indexing of newspapers and journals you might try 
http://www.multidataonline.com. We are about to subscribe to this and 
I know at least one other library has had it for a couple of years. 
Keyword searching is available.

Michael

>Has anyone else in MELANET land had experience with the Cairo group 
>calling themselves Mahrosa (mah.ru-sah)?  They appear to be 
>something like a newspaper clipping service that is trying to make 
>it in the modern age.  They appear to have collections of scanned 
>articles from an unspecified number of newspapers it is assumed 
>primarily in Arabic, with unspecified dates of coverage that they 
>put out in specific subject collections.  They appear to have 
>printed versions and the same on CDROM.  They also offer to add 
>indexing of specific terms provided by the customer.
>
>They have not been very forthcoming responding to specific and 
>technical questions.  The product is very expensive and seems to me 
>to be a gamble since they ask for 1/2 of the cost up front.  Even 
>though we were inquiring about the purchase of a significant number, 
>they were not willing to give a substantial discount.
>
>Additionally, what are your experiences with other online indexing 

Re: Mahrosa newspaper archives

Michael,
Thank you for the information.  I am going to look into it.  I can't 
justify $20K for this product.
John
At 10:42 AM 9/1/2004, you wrote:
>John,
>
>We bought an 8-volume set of theirs some years ago entitled al-Islamiyun 
>wa-Nasr Hamid Abu Zayd. I do not think this particular set was indexed.
>
>For online indexing of newspapers and journals you might try 
>http://www.multidataonline.com. We are about to subscribe to this and I 
>know at least one other library has had it for a couple of years. Keyword 
>searching is available.
>
>Michael
>
>
>>Has anyone else in MELANET land had experience with the Cairo group 
>>calling themselves Mahrosa (mah.ru-sah)?  They appear to be something 
>>like a newspaper clipping service that is trying to make it in the modern 
>>age.  They appear to have collections of scanned articles from an 
>>unspecified number of newspapers it is assumed primarily in Arabic, with 
>>unspecified dates of coverage that they put out in specific subject 
>>collections.  They appear to have printed versions and the same on 
>>CDROM.  They also offer to add indexing of specific terms provided by the 
>>customer.
>>
>>They have not been very forthcoming responding to specific and technical 
>>questions.  The product is very expensive and seems to me to be a gamble 

Chronicle of Higher Education live discussion

Iraq articles from MESA bulletin

MESA is to be congratulated for fast-tracking the following three 
articles  on Iraq from the most recent issue of the Bulletin (Volume 
38 Number 1 June 2004) to their website.

"Opening the Doors" One year Later: Reflections on the Iraq War and 
the Middle East Studies Community, by Keith Watenpaugh

Iraqi Universities and Libraries: One Year After the Occupation, by Hala Fattah

Lessons for Assistance to Iraq Libraries Derived from Similar Efforts 
to Assist Bosnian Libraries after the 1992-1996 War, by Jeffrey B. 
Spurr

http://fp.arizona.edu/mesassoc/Bulletin/Tables%20of%20Contents/tbljun04.htm

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MELA program in November

MELANET'ers

I am sending the outline of the program for this Novembers meeting.  MELA 
members please note that the MELA business meeting is in the 
morning.  Registration for the full day is $35, which includes 
lunch.  There is no discount for a partial day registration.  Registration 
forms will be available on the MELA web site.  Advance registration 
received by October 19 will be discounted to $25.

In addition, the LC MECAP meeting will take place on Friday the 19th.  The 
MEMP general meeting will take place on Saturday morning the 20th as will 
the OCLC update session.

The official MESA hotel is the Hyatt Regency Embarcadero in San 
Francisco.   The MELA meetings will take place in this hotel.  Earlier in 
the year I sent out information on an alternative hotel that was near by 
(about 2 blocks) but slightly less expensive than the Hyatt.  There are 
other al1ternatives if you are willing to stay further away form the 
conference hotel.

As mentioned in my earlier email, San Francisco is served by three 
airports: San Francisco, Oakland and San Jose International airports.  San 
Jose is too far away for most folks.  San Francisco and Oakland are about 
equal in distance from the hotel.  Both have public transit available as 
well as a variety of shuttles.  Check out the web sites of each airport for 
airlines serving them and directions for using public transit.  San 
Francisco (http://www.flysfo.com/) and Oakland (http://www.flyoakland.com/).

The Hyatt Regency is a short distance from the Embarcadero BART station.

Middle East Librarians Association
Annual Meeting
November 19, 2004
Hyatt Regency Embarcadero
San Francisco, CA

8:00-12:00 noon Business meeting

12:30-2:00pm Lunch

2:00-5:00pm Program

Part 1 -  Collection Development at the national level, theory and practice

Sara Yontan Musnik
Conservateur, Collections turques
Bibliotheque national de France

Debbie Cox
Curator of Arabic
British Library

Kamran Arjomand
Persian Subject Specialist
Halle University Library

Christopher Murphy
Turkish Area Specialist
Library of Congress

Paul Auchterlone
Librarian for Middle East Studies
University of Exeter

Break (there will be a 15 minute break at an appropriate time in the 
program--refreshments will be available throughout the afternoon)

Part 2 -  Project Reports

MENALIB
Lutz Wiederhold
Halle University

OACIS
Simon Samoeil
Project Manager
Elizabeth Beaudin
Technical Administrator
Yale University

John

Papal-Mongol correspondence

>
>email  : kevin.witte@...
>name  :
>ID  :
>comments  : Dear Sir or Madam,
>
>My name is Kevin Witte, and I am beginning work on a Master's thesis at 
>the University of Nebraska at Kearney.  My thesis proposal involves an 
>examination of Papal-Mongol correspondence and Papal correspondence with 
>the Islamic group of Assassins and Old Man of the Mountain during the 
>period of the Crusades and Mongol conquest, principally the thirteenth and 
>early
>fourteenth century.
>
>I am currently attempting to locate the best possible location within the 
>United States for materials and sources relating to this topical area for 
>a research visit  My advising professors recommended that I consider 
>exploring your collection of Middle Eastern sources.
>
>I am a bit unclear about what is contained in your collection after 
>searching your website.
>
>1. Is there a way to determine if the Papal-Mongol or Papal-Islamic 
>correspondence that I seek is contained within this collection?
>
>2.  Does your collection include much from the Ilkhan period of Mongol 
>occupation?
>
>I realize that the fact I am not a Cornell student makes this request a 
>lower priority than the students you serve, but I would appreciate any 
>help or guidance in determining how helpful this collection would be to my 
>research.
>
>Any assisstance in this matter would be greatly appreciated.
>
>Thank you,
>
>Kevin Witte
>High School AP World History Teacher and Graduate Student

Re: Papal-Mongol correspondence

For the papal side, the Catholic university of america has the standard
collections of papal letters from the period, including the so-called
Magnum Bullarium Romanum - issued on various titles & reprinted most
recently in the 19th century:

Bullarum, diplomatum et privilegiorum sanctorum romanorum pontificum
taurinensis
Luigi Tomassetti;  Charles Cocquelines;  Francesco Gaude;  Luigi Bilio
1857
Italian  Book 25 v. 29.5 x 21 cm.
Augustae Taurinorum, Seb. Franco et Henrico Dalmazzo editoribus, 

The Bullaria of the religious orders, esp. the Franciscans and
Dominicans, are relevant to this topic.  They were "out there" in that
period as envoys and missionaries.

Tom Izbicki

Thomas Izbicki
Collection Development Coordinator
Eisenhower Library
Johns Hopkins
Baltimore, MD 21218
(410)516-7173
fax (410)516-8399

>>> ah16@... 9/8/2004 8:33:34 AM >>>

>
>email  : kevin.witte@... 
>name  :
>ID  :
>comments  : Dear Sir or Madam,
>
>My name is Kevin Witte, and I am beginning work on a Master's thesis
at 
>the University of Nebraska at Kearney.  My thesis proposal involves an

>examination of Papal-Mongol correspondence and Papal correspondence
with 
>the Islamic group of Assassins and Old Man of the Mountain during the

>period of the Crusades and Mongol conquest, principally the thirteenth
and 
>early
>fourteenth century.
>
>I am currently attempting to locate the best possible location within
the 
>United States for materials and sources relating to this topical area
for 
>a research visit  My advising professors recommended that I consider 
>exploring your collection of Middle Eastern sources.
>
>I am a bit unclear about what is contained in your collection after 
>searching your website.
>
>1. Is there a way to determine if the Papal-Mongol or Papal-Islamic 
>correspondence that I seek is contained within this collection?
>
>2.  Does your collection include much from the Ilkhan period of Mongol

>occupation?
>
>I realize that the fact I am not a Cornell student makes this request
a 
>lower priority than the students you serve, but I would appreciate any

>help or guidance in determining how helpful this collection would be
to my 
>research.
>
>Any assisstance in this matter would be greatly appreciated.
>
>Thank you,
>
>Kevin Witte
>High School AP World History Teacher and Graduate Student

November meeting addendum

All,
OK, in my haste I forgot to mention one very important meeting.  The LC 
MECAP meeting will take place on Friday, November 19, 5:30-7:00pm.  You 
will get more details later as the time approaches.

John

Re: conference on arabic script in web based catalogs in the uae

I just discovered that Arabic is now available on our OPAC.

On 11 Aug 2004 at 6:25, dhirsch@... wrote:

> hi blair-
> i will see if i can find out. they are not always terribly organized there. do you have arabic in your opac in toronto?
> david
> 
> David G. Hirsch
> Middle East Bibliographer
> YRL Collections, Research, and Instructional Services
> Charles Young Research Library
> UCLA
> Box 951575
> Los Angeles, CA 90095-1575
> email: dhirsch@...
> tel: +1-310-825-2930
> fax: +1-310-206-4974
> efax: +1-707-313-7712
> 
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: Blair Kuntz <blair.kuntz@...>
> Date: Wednesday, August 11, 2004 6:12 am
> Subject: Re: conference on arabic script in web based catalogs in the uae
> 
> > I would be interested in participating. By the way, I sent an 
> > abstract proposal, but heard nothing in response. Would you 
> > know anything about what happened to the abstract proposals?
> > 
> > Blair Kuntz
> > Arabic Cataloguer
> > University of Toronto Libraries
> > 
> > On 10 Aug 2004 at 23:13, dhirsch@... wrote:
> > 
> > > You may remember that UAE University had posted a call for 
> > papers for a conference on Arabic Script in Web Based Catalogs to 
> > be held at the same time as our MELA/MESA conference. They are 
> > considering postponing the workshop. If it were at another time... 
> > say in December 2004 or March 2005, would any of you be 
> > interesting in participating?
> > > 
> > > Pls let me know and I will communicate with the organizers.
> > > 
> > > Thanks!
> > > David
> > > 
> > > David G. Hirsch
> > > Middle East Bibliographer
> > > YRL Collections, Research, and Instructional Services
> > > Charles Young Research Library
> > > UCLA
> > > Box 951575
> > > Los Angeles, CA 90095-1575
> > > email: dhirsch@...
> > > tel: +1-310-825-2930
> > > fax: +1-310-206-4974
> > > efax: +1-707-313-7712
> > > 
> > 
> > 
> 

September update

Dear MELANETters,

After what I trust has been a pleasant summer, I hope that you are beginning to
think of attending our upcoming meeting in San Francisco in November.  You will
be receiving more news about both the MELA Business Meeting and the very
interesting Program organized by Vice President John Eilts as well as other
related meetings shortly.

I also hope that you will consider becoming a candidate for one of the four
offices that will appear on the election ballot during our Business Meeting:
Vice President, Secretary-Treasurer, Editor, and Member-at-Large.  Please note
that one of the incumbents (our Secretary-Treasurer Janet Heineck) is
ineligible for re-election to this crucial office.

Meryle Gaston has graciously agreed to chair a Nominating Committee that also
includes Paul Crego and Suad Muhammad-Gamal.  Please contact Meryle directly
(gaston@...) if you wish to run for office.  We would like the
Executive Board to reflect the full range of interests and geographic regions
of our membership.  If you don't come forward, the Committee may call on you! 

Best wishes at the start of the new academic year,

Lesley
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MELA President
and
Bibliographer for Law of the Islamic World, Harvard Law School Library
Langdell 165, 1545 Massachusetts Avenue, Cambridge, MA 01238 U.S.A.
Phone: 1-617-495-4063  Fax: 1-617-496-4409  Net: lwilkins@...