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Re: "Reality memoirs"

David Bigwood writes:
> I checked the tags in LibraryThing and Memoirs (and variants of it)
seems a
> popular tag. Autobiography and similar tags was also popular.
> 
> One tag that jumped out at me was Experiments. Maybe a heading for
Lifestyle
> experiments would work.

"Lifestyle experiments" or maybe the available concatenation "Lifestyles
$x Experiments"--I like that!  The scope note for the free-floating
subdivision $x Experiments says: "[use] under scientific or technical
topics for discussions about experiments and instructions for carrying
them out"--but its application is not formally restricted to technical
subjects.  I don't think it would be any stretch to characterize
Farewell my Subaru as "Sustainable living $x Experiments."  And I
suppose you could attach "Jewish law $x Experiments" to The year of
living biblically.

But that only covers part of the genre--I don't think you could consider
Julie and Julia or The know-it-all as "lifestyle experiments."

Misha Schutt
Catalog Librarian
Burbank (Calif.) Public Library
(818) 238 5570
mschutt@...

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Gene Fieg | 1 Jan 17:50

Re: What are classification numbers for La Vista, Nebraska?

Looking at ClassWeb.  Start with F674 (works about cities) and cutter by the
city and then the main entry (author, or title, whichever is appropriate.

On Tue, Dec 29, 2009 at 11:08 AM, Marjorie Shaw <
mshaw@...> wrote:

> I have been asked to provide the LC number for a history book about the
> city of La Vista, in Sarpy County, Nebraska.  I was able to discover the
> following numbers.  Can anyone let me know what is correct?  TIA!
>     Nebraska               F661-675
>     Sarpy County         F672
>     Bellevue, NE          F674
>     North Platte, NE    F674
>
> I also have two DDC numbers.  I'm assuming 978.2256 (Sarpy County) would be
> better than 978.203 (history of Nebraska since statehood).  Is that correct?
>  TIA again!
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Helen L | 1 Jan 19:37

NETSL Award 2010: Call for Nominations

New England Technical Services Librarians (NETSL) Executive Board is seeking
nominations for its annual NETSL Award for Excellence in Library Technical
Services.

The NETSL Award recognizes and honors significant New England-based
contributions to the field of library technical services. Contributions may
have been made in New England by librarians from throughout the United
States, or nationally by librarians residing in New England, through
publications, service, or innovations in practice. The NETSL Executive Board
members select a recipient at their February meeting based on nominations
received. The Board reserves the right to suspend the Award for a year if no
suitable candidate is nominated.

The next NETSL Award will be presented at the NETSL Annual Spring Conference
2010: Crosswalks to the
Future<http://www.nelib.org/netsl/conference/2010/index.htm>
,* April 15, 2010*****, at College of the Holy Cross in Worcester, MA.

Eligibility for nomination is as follows:

   - Nominees may be NETSL/NELA members, but membership in the Association
   is not a requirement.
   - A nomination must be accompanied by a written statement that includes
   the rationale for nomination and, if a resume of the nominee is not
   appended, a narrative summary of the nominee's career and achievements.
   Provision of a resume is strongly recommended.
   - Nominations may be made by NETSL members, or by non-members.
   - Nominations and statement(s) must be received by the NETSL
   Vice-President no later than Friday, February 5, 2010.
   - Current members of the NETSL Executive Board are not eligible for

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James Bowman | 2 Jan 04:08

Gore Vidal's novel, The judgment/judgement of Paris, redux

I want to amend my previous posting about the edition of 5 of Vidal's novels published w/o a collective
title: Julian ; Williwaw ; The judgement [sic] of Paris ; Messiah ; The city and the pillar. (New York :
Octopus Books ; W. Heinemann, 1979.) OCLC 6125821. I said re the spelling of "judgement" in the third title
listed that it was "an ERROR by the publisher." In data available elsewhere re this edition appears the
word "import." Both publishers are British publishers (with offices in New York at the time of
publication). I also said in my message that all other editions have the word spelled "judgment." Since
sending my message I have discovered there is a British edition with title: The judgement [sic] of
Paris. (London : Panther, 1974.) OCLC 16243346. Also later British editions published by Abacus with
"judgement." Aha! It is NOT a case of ERROR on the part of the publisher[s] but rather the deliberate
replacement of American English with
British English! My apologies to our British friends and AUTOCAT readers! Whether these editions
require filing titles in American library catalogs I'll leave to another day.

James Bowman
Library of Congress (Ret.)
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Robert Mead-donaldson | 2 Jan 16:56

Re: Film production companies

Happy New Year Mac,

Well, I Netflixed myself into a stupor, with all kinds of classic, foreign
and Clint Eastwood (!) films.

  All six of us (son, daughter in law and three granddaughters) saw Avatar
in the theater.   They kill you with mind numbing previews for twenty
minutes before the feature presentation.

It may not be of any interest anymore, but to my way of thinking, the 245
should have the film title, then [videorecording] and should be followed by
the SOR as it appears in the title frames.  Does RDA allow for shortening
too many names, like  AACR2 did? (No more ... [et al.])  It should be like
the title page in a book, but then I'm thinking of archival collections of
thousands of films.

  I once gave the example of Titanic, which summoned forth 8 or 9 entries in
the IMDb, and if we had those in our collection (we don't, just the James
Cameron film) the statement of responsibilities would identify each for
research purposes.

I'm still here, but noting the proceedings from the comforts of home.   As
it turns out, I would not have been on the job after May, because of DROP
(retirement plan, five years and you then must retire, and are out the door
with a lump sum) so I didn't cut and run to avoid RDA.     Having said that,
the advent of AACR2 was a heady time, we were pumped and looking forward.
 That's not the case with RDA.

bob mead-donaldson
retired cataloger

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J. McRee Elrod | 2 Jan 17:45

Re: Film production companies

Robert Mead=donalson said:

>It may not be of any interest anymore, but to my way of thinking, the 245
>should have the film title, then [videorecording] and should be followed by
>the SOR as it appears in the title frames.

These days the production company(ies) rarely appear(s) on the title
frame, unless at head of title, e.g., "Walt Disney Presents ...".   
The production companies appear one per frame before the title frame,
often accompanied by there logo, e.g., lighthouse, boy fishing from
the moon, skyline at night, etc.

>Does RDA allow for shortening >too many names, like  AACR2 did? (No
>more ... [et al.])

The rule of three will be gone with RDA.  You can have any number of
authors in the statement of responsibility.  For personal authors, the
first is prime entry; for treaties it is the first country mentioned;  
but for production companies, this never happens.  As works of mixed
responsibility title is prime entry, even with "a film by <writer
director>"; this for me is an argument for putting all production
credits together in the credit note.

>example of Titanic, which summoned forth 8 or 9 entries in the IMDb,
>and if we had those in our collection (we don't, just the James
>Cameron film) the statement of responsibilities would identify each
>for research purposes.

An added entry for any entity wished would be justified by the credit
note, just as entries for actors are justified by the cast note.  They

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Henry Lam | 2 Jan 21:19

Re: Utility of MARC records

On Fri, Jun 6, 2008 at 7:04 AM, Carol Seiler <seiler@...> wrote:

> John J. Vosmek stated:
> [snip] Has there ever been an attempt to create a standardized must-have
> features list and/or display requirements for ILSs?  I think I once
> tried to research such a thing and came across an unofficial "ILS Best
> Practices" document, but it was from the point of view of systems
> administrators.[/snip]
>
> In April this year, I attended a session at the Texas State Library
> annual convention on the Open Source "Evergreen". Elizabeth M. de
> Garcia, director of PINES presented. As I recall, we were told this open
> source ILS was built based on what the librarians, clerks, etc. stated
> were important to have in a 'dream' system. It was not based on the
> existing but on what they wanted - or so I understand.
>
>  - Carol
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Joel Hahn | 2 Jan 21:51

Re: 650 and 655

the Library of Congress has confirmed that, with some exceptions, it is generally appropriate to code form
& genre headings in the format "655 _0 Heading." rather than the old method of coding them in the format "650
_0 Heading.", as long as there is a topical authority record for the heading.

See http://www.loc.gov/catdir/cpso/genre_form_faq.pdf question #28 for the details.

-- 
Joel Hahn
Lead Cataloger
Niles Public Library District
Niles, IL

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From: AUTOCAT on behalf of Tara Winner
Sent: Wed 12/30/2009 10:56 AM
To: AUTOCAT@...
Subject: 650 and 655

Hello everyone-

I have a question which may seem basic, but I have not run into this
situation before. I have an item to catalog that is strictly clip art that
was sent from Hasbro, Inc. to retailers to use in their print ads.

The item "is" clip art, and is not "about" clip art, therefore, I would
want to use a genre/form term. However, in LCSH, "Clip art" is listed as a
150 and not a 155.

My question is, in the subject fields, can I change the item from a 650 to

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Joan Jones | 4 Jan 15:28

Re: 650 and 655

Great ... if I understand correctly. Just to make sure: If I have an old
hymnal to catalog (and I have had many over the years) I may use the
subject heading Hymns in a 655 _0, even though it is not yet established
as a LC genre term-- because it is established as a LCSH 150 _0; but I
cannot use the subject Hymnals in a 655 _0 because it is not an
established LCSH heading. Have I got it straight? 

Thank you. 

Joan Jones 

jjones@...

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the Library of Congress has confirmed that, with some exceptions, it is
generally appropriate to code form & genre headings in the format "655
_0 Heading." rather than the old method of coding them in the format
"650 _0 Heading.", as long as there is a topical authority record for
the heading.

--
Joel Hahn
Lead Cataloger
Niles Public Library District
Niles, IL

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Johnson, Bary | 4 Jan 15:56

Serials question

Happy New Year to all and a question for more experienced serials catalogers.

 

 

Since June,  the journal “La Gazette de l'Hôtel Drouot”

 

has been called “Gazette Drouot”

 

The record in OCLC has been updated to reflect this title change in a 246 field (please see example below)

 

 

OCLC # 9022282

 

La Gazette de l'Hôtel Drouot.

 

246 1 ǂi Issues for June 26, 2009-   have title: ǂa Gazette Drouot

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