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James Weinheimer | 1 Dec 09:04

Re: Dept. vs. Department

On Mon, 30 Nov 2009 07:40:31 -0800, Daniel CannCasciato
<Daniel.CannCasciato@...> wrote:

>>>> Jane Kelsey <jkelsey@...> wrote:
>> As this is a coming issue, is anyone in favor of going to Department?
>> I am moving more toward the idea of Department spelled out.
>
>I'm for spelling it out.  There are many headings established (or
references) that use the spelled out form of the word and its variations in
French, Spanish, etc., that I think it would make retrieval and maintenance
easier if we did so all the time.

It would be best if this could be solved in an automated fashion, but I have
my doubts about that. I am sure however, of one thing: NOBODY will ever
think to search for "United States. Dept. of Defense." except for catalogers
and people who have learned (or been burned) along the way. Somehow, a
search for "United States. Department of Defense" must retrieve the correct
result. 

As Ed points out, the card catalog was very forgiving in these matters, and
there was also a concern to cut down on the number of letters typed (a
holdover from the Taylorist period in cataloging) but also to cut down on
the number of cards produced. (More letters typed meant using more space
which somewhere would translate itself into an extra card)

All these concerns are shreds of history now that no longer apply. 

James Weinheimer  j.weinheimer@...
Director of Library and Information Services
The American University of Rome
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Roger Fenton | 1 Dec 10:02
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Re: Language of African folk song

Ethnologue has a list of Liberian 
languageshttp://www.ethnologue.com/show_country.asp?name=liberia
from this list you might try going to one of the websites that give 
samples of the Bible in many languages, such as
http://www.spiritrestoration.org/Church/lord%27s-prayer-christus-rex.htm
and compare what's given there with your text, to see how similar they are.
I've also approached the School of Oriental and African Studies in 
London before, for help with African languages.
http://www.soas.ac.uk/

Gbala, Helen wrote:
> There are 16 major tribal languages in Liberia, West Africa. I suspect it a coastal tribe, perhaps Kru, or
Vai.  The Liberian Embassy in Washington, DC or the Africana Collection at Northwestern University may be
able to help.
> 
> Helen E. Gbala
> Supervisor Cataloging/Processing
> College of DuPage Library
> 630-942-2663
> gbalah@...
> 
> Formerly a librarian in Monrovia, Liberia.
> 
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Mike Tribby | 1 Dec 14:43

Re: Dept. vs. Department

>I am sure however, of one thing: NOBODY will ever think to search for "United States. Dept. of Defense."
except for catalogers and people who have learned (or been burned) along the way. Somehow, a search for
"United States. Department of Defense" must retrieve the correct result.

How about utilizing the syndetic structure of LCSH to link to common keyword searches in the OPAC? I realize
that's hardly as breathtaking (or publication/tenure worthy) as changing absolutely everything, but
it might just work.

Mike Tribby
Senior Cataloger
Quality Books Inc.
The Best of America's Independent Presses

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MCCUTCHEON, SEVIM | 1 Dec 15:47
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Announcing OLAC Research Award

Please distribute widely, and forgive cross-posting

Just in time for the Year of Cataloging Research!  OLAC (Online Audiovisual Catalogers) seeks applicants
for the 2010 OLAC Research  Grant.
This annual award of up to $2,000 encourages research in the field of audiovisual cataloging.

Submit proposals by March 1, 2010 to :
Sevim McCutcheon, Lmccutch@...<BLOCKED::BLOCKED::mailto:Lmccutch <at> kent.edu>

Please see the OLAC handbook for guidelines and parameters:
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Ms. Sevim McCutcheon
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University Libraries
Kent State University
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Laura Carruba | 1 Dec 16:24
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Re: User tags (was Sarah Palin)

>>> Mike Tribby <mike.tribby@...> 11/24/2009 3:27
PM >>>
<< I'm far more likely to endorse tag clouds with the Burroughs connection, but that says more about me than
the technique itself. Next I think I'll see if I can divine any help for future catalgoing processes from
Charles Bukowski. I feel better about the future already. >>

Can I steal this to use as one of my signatures? (With credit, of course.) I studied the Beat Generation and
its writers and poets in college and did a portfolio of cut-ups for a final. This made me laugh out loud!

--Laura

Laura Carruba
assistant cataloger
Roanoke County Public Library, HQ/419
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Hollins '05

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Daniel CannCasciato | 1 Dec 16:39
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Re: Dept. vs. Department

>> Mike Tribby <mike.tribby@...> wrote:
> How about utilizing the syndetic structure of LCSH to link to common keyword searches in the OPAC?

true enough.  I don't think anyone (catalogers or the general public) thinks to try United States Dept of . . . 
but they can easily be led there.  In this case, though, I think spelling out the word could help with keyword
retrieval and also maintenance down the road.  With the variations in name presentation on publications,
we will always need to formulate headings according to some standard or guideline and then lead our
patrons to those materials as best we can.  

Daniel

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Jennifer Webb | 1 Dec 16:46
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Fabric Spine Labels

Hi all! We received the following missive from a patron. He wants to
label a large collection of books with fabric spine labels, and he
plans to write on them (not type or print). He needs a pen with ink
that won't bleed. I'm not having much luck with this question (and my
mind boggles at the thought of writing out 10,000 spine labels), but
perhaps you can help him?

-- 
Jennifer Webb
Bibliographic Services Librarian
Cary Memorial Library
1874 Massachusetts Ave
Lexington, MA 02421
781-862-6288 x112

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SUMARY

I am using fabric spine labels and need a ink/pen reference to those who
use them in technical services.

My Project

I am going to spine label 10,000 books, so I want it done right.  I have
the fabric spine labels below

PROBLEM:  INK BLEEDING:  NOW AND LATER TO BE AVOIDED

I want a pen or marker recommendation that will hold up 50 years ago.  I
am using the spine label protectors too.
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Shirley Richardson | 1 Dec 17:01
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Re: Fabric Spine Labels

I have been using Sharpie Ultra Fine Point permanent markers (black) to write on the tops of CDs and DVDs with
good results. How they would work on fabric, I can't say.

Shirley Richardson
Catalog Librarian
Angelo State University
San Angelo, Texas
Phone: 325-942-2222
E-Mail: Shirley.Richardson@...
(My opinions do not necessarily reflect those of my employer)

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Subject: Fabric Spine Labels

Hi all! We received the following missive from a patron. He wants to
label a large collection of books with fabric spine labels, and he
plans to write on them (not type or print). He needs a pen with ink
that won't bleed. I'm not having much luck with this question (and my
mind boggles at the thought of writing out 10,000 spine labels), but
perhaps you can help him?

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Howard, Marilyn | 1 Dec 18:03
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Re: Fabric Spine Labels

Jennifer Webb wrote:

>Hi all! We received the following missive from a patron. He wants to
>label a large collection of books with fabric spine labels, and he
>plans to write on them (not type or print). He needs a pen with ink
>that won't bleed. I'm not having much luck with this question (and my
>mind boggles at the thought of writing out 10,000 spine labels), but
>perhaps you can help him?

I used labels like this in a library in the last millenium.  We used a typewriter.  I think that the labels that
were hand written (from before my time) were done with India ink and a steel nib pen.  He might find better
luck looking at calligraphy pens in an art supply store 

Marilyn M. Howard, State Documents Cataloger
Law and Research Library
Arizona State Library, Archives and Public Records
1700 W. Washington, Phoenix, AZ 85007
602-926-3870
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Brayman, Susan | 1 Dec 18:30
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Re: Fabric Spine Labels

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   He might find better luck looking at calligraphy pens in an art supply store 

   Marilyn M. Howard, State Documents Cataloger

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   In an art supply store, he also ought to be able to find different colors of ink, as he indicated he wanted in
his email copied in the original post.

   Sue Brayman.

   Sue Brayman, LSS, Monograph Cataloging
   The University of New Hampshire Library
   18 Library Way
   Durham, NH  03824-3592
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