Peary, Carole | 1 Aug 01:18

Re: cataloging policy manual

Carole Peary
Glendale Public Library

Me too. Thanks
 
Carole Peary
Glendale Public Library
Cataloging Services
Glendale AZ 85302
(623) 930-3529
 
In this world there are only two tragedies. One is not getting what one wants, and the other is getting it. --
Oscar Wilde.

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From: AUTOCAT on behalf of Jeane Tornatore
Sent: Fri 7/31/2009 2:36 PM
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Subject: Re: [ACAT] cataloging policy manual



Could I be included on your list as well?

Thank you!

 Jeane

Jeane Tornatore
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Hal Cain | 1 Aug 04:20
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Re: Can bibliographic data be put directly on the semantic web?

On Fri, 31 Jul 2009 18:32:50 -0400, Galen Charlton
<gmcharlt@...> wrote:

>To
>assume that a linked data application would *inherently* not be
>designed to handle the reality of insufficient or inconsistent
>bandwidth I think is a distraction from debating the merits of any
>particular proposal.

Except that applications that don't work have brought us grief before; so
we're wary!

Seriously, having workable systems that are affordable by those who have to
use them is no small consideration.  Even "rich Western countries" find it
hard to provide bandwidth everywhere, all the time.  I can't think it's
ethical for librarians to foster developments that make information more
difficult to access.  Already, at a basic level of our profession, there's
serious doubt about the affordability of RDA for some libraries.

Hal Cain
Dalton McCaughey Library
Parkville, Victoria, Australia
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Re: cataloging policy manual

Hi Sue!

I am not american. I am Romanian, but I would like that I have your
cataloging policy manual. I am cataloger from 40 years.

Thank you with anticipate,

Constanta Dumitrasconiu
Cataloguing Dept, Central University Library of Bucharest, Romania
constantad2003@...

On 7/31/2009, "Sue Riehl" <sriehl@...> wrote:

>Hi,
>
>Please excuse the tardiness of this message but I wanted to thank every
>one who so graciously sent me examples of their cataloging policy
>manuals.  I am still working on ours but it has been a much smoother and
>easier process thanks to many individuals who shared their work with me.
>For those individuals who contacted me requesting to see examples of
>policy manuals I have not forgotten, and you should be hearing from me in
>the near future.
>
>Again, many thanks to many individuals for sharing their manuals with me.
>
>It is greatly appreciated and I am so very thankful to the Autocat
>community and list owners.
>
>thanks,
>
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scanning document

Good afternoon to all!

Do you cataloging scanning documents? Do you apply the specific
cataloging rules? Can you detail for me?

Thank you in advance,

Constanta Dumitrasconiu
Cataloguing Dept, Central University Library of Bucharest, Romania
constantad2003@...

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J. McRee Elrod | 1 Aug 15:20
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Provider Neutral E-Monograph MARC Records

http://www.loc.gov/catdir/pcc/bibco/PN-Guide.pdf

The provider neutral e-monograph marc record guide (combing electronic
smd with collation of original) is a giant step forward from both the
strange mix of carrier and content smds in AACR2 samples, and in
advising not to use 533) from the LCRI which turns AACR2 on its head.  
The advice not to use 256 computer file characteristics is also good.

But its provisions differ in many ways from those our clients have
come to prefer.

The provision for 020 agrees with our practice, 020$a for the
electronic ISBN, and 020$z for the print ISBN.  But even though MARC21
has the same provision for 010 LCCN, that practice is not suggested.  
The print LCCN is not to be entered in 010 at all.

Where there is electronic vendor added value, making the electronic
version a different edition from the same work provided by another
vendor, we have found combining the print and electronic imprint
information helpful; the print publisher in 260$a$b$c, and the
electronic publisher in 260$e$f$g.  This is of course not a provider
neutral record, since there would be only one provider of such an
enhanced resource.

The instruction to always use the smd "online resource" is far too
general, even if limited to monographs, to please our clients.  They
wish specific smds, e.g., "electronic text" for text, plus "website",
"computer program", "computer game", etc.  In addition, the use of the
term "online resource" duplicates that term in MARC21 337 carrier
type, and will be redundant.  The carrier type and smd terms need not
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sharon albert | 1 Aug 18:30
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Re: cataloging policy manual

Please include me as well.

Thanks,

Sharon Albert
Linden Public Library
Cataloguer
Linden, NJ 07036
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  From: Peary, Carole<mailto:CPeary@...> 
  To:
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  Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 7:18 PM
  Subject: Re: [ACAT] cataloging policy manual

  Carole Peary
  Glendale Public Library

  Me too. Thanks

  Carole Peary
  Glendale Public Library
  Cataloging Services
  Glendale AZ 85302
  (623) 930-3529

  In this world there are only two tragedies. One is not getting what one wants, and the other is getting it. --
Oscar Wilde.

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J. McRee Elrod | 1 Aug 18:25
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Re: scanning document

Constanta asked:

>Do you cataloging scanning documents?

Offlist I'm sending our electronic resource cataloguing cheet sheet.

We follow AACR2/LAC in cataloguing the item in hand, not the LCRI in
which one catalogues the original, with a 533 note.

The 245$h would be [electronic resource], and the collation would be,
for example, 300 $a1 electronic text (x, 100 p. : ill.) ;$cpdf digital
file.

If it's not a pdf file, of course substitute "html" or whatevers.

If it's on a computer disc as opposed to online, then change the smd,
e.g., 300  $a1 one CD-ROM (x, 100 p. : ill.) $c ...

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Re: cataloging policy manual

Hi, Sue--I'd also like to also receive one copy of your cataloging policy manual, if you don't  mind.

Thanks,

Jan Canganelli
jmcangan@...<mailto:jmcangan@...>
Indiana University-Purdue University at Indianapolis
IUPUI University Library
755 West Michigan St.
Bibliographic and Metadata Team, Rm. 1115
(317) 274.0552

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From: AUTOCAT [AUTOCAT@...] On Behalf Of Rosina Leung [rosina.leung@...]
Sent: Friday, July 31, 2009 1:41 PM
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Subject: Re: [ACAT] cataloging policy manual

Hi Sue,

I would also like to receive one copy.  Please count me in.  Appreciated.
Rosina

Daniel Le wrote:
> Dear Sue,
>
> Would you please put me on your list of those who want to receive your
> cataloging policy manual when done? We're in the process of switching
> to Symphony and need to start gathering information to write our own
> cataloging policy manual. Your work will be tremendously helpful to us.
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"Me too" postings to Autocat + please edit your messages

Hi All,

a gentle reminder.  The recent flurry of messages requesting a policy manual from one Autocat subscriber
brings to mind the general policy that is being missed:  please just send those types of messages directly
to the person.  It is not a message that all 5,600 Autocat subscribers need to receive.  

Also, again in general, please edit from your messages the texts, headers, and footers from all previous
messages, except a brief excerpt that will help to place your reply in context. 

Thanks,

Daniel
co-listowner

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Daniel CannCasciato
Head of Cataloging
Central Washington University Library
400 E. University Way
Ellensburg, WA 98926-7548
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John G. Marr | 2 Aug 19:13
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Re: "Me too" postings to Autocat + please edit your messages

--- On Sun, 8/2/09, Daniel CannCasciato <Daniel.CannCasciato@...> wrote:

  Thanks for reiterating that, Dan.  I would add that undeleted repetitions of the automatically generated
"AUTOCAT quoting guide" from successive messages are particularly superfluous and space-consuming.

  In addition, do you suppose AUTOCAT could simplify its rule on quoting posts to "OK, with citations of
authors, according to any qualifications prescribed by authors, and as long as not specifically
proscribed by authors" [unless, of course, the AUTOCAT listowners find the "AUTOCAT quoting guide"
paragraphs necessary to protect themselves]?

  Such a rule would at least take up less space on each message than the current astericized [did I just make up
another new word?] "AUTOCAT quoting guide" admonition which refers even further to more detail.  In fact,
it would only require citations of qualifications and/or proscriptions by the authors themselves on an
individual basis.

Cheers!

John G. Marr
PO Box 702
Tijeras, NM 87059
jmarr@...
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