Glenda Claborne | 1 Jun 17:54

Re: The LC CIP Program

CIP records are indeed very helpful for libraries, vendors and publishers
alike. I think that the organizational restructuring going on at LC that
Gene K. described doesn't mean that CIP records will go away. It might just
mean that the processes for producing them will take different routes and forms.

One of the recommendations of the WG for the Future of Bibliographic is to
use bibliographic data early on in the publishing cycle which is what the
CIP program is already doing. The current workflow has publishers send
full-texts of their eligible publications to LC and then LC catalogers
create CIP records for these which publishers print on the verso of the
title page and which are also distributed to large libraries, bibliographic
utilities and materials/content vendors for upgrading and/or redistribution.

But with the more dynamic nature of digital publishing that we have now, we
also need to have a matching dynamic workflow where pre-pub or pre-print
bibliographic data can be captured/harvested and edited/upgraded as the
content goes through the full digital publishing cycle. Perhaps the
organizational structure at LC that previously handled the CIP operation
isn't flexible enough for all the changes in publishing life cycles that
libraries have to deal with now and in the coming years.

Glenda Claborne
Unemployed Librarian

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Ahmad Taleb | 2 Jun 08:27
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Re: Letter to AL

An excellent letter. May I add that this attitude is applicable to human 
civilization in general. If the "3 trillion  dollar war... +" has been spent 
on education, libraries, hospitals, which all have no clear money return, 
the human kind would have been in a much better shape. God bless you all 
Autocaters!

Ahmad Taleb
Technical Services Librarian
Lebanese American University
P.O. Box 36
Byblos, Lebanon
Tel: 09-547254/62 Ext. 2272

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> In response to several requests, here is my letter to the editor of
> _American Libraries_ May issue p. 10:
>
> Libraries Are Not Businesses.
>
> Bradford Lee Eden writes in "Ending the Status Quo" that "In every
> business model I know of, that ratio [10% using the catalog], spells
> bankruptcy and foreclosure" (AL, Mar. p.38).
>
> The basic fallacy here is citing a business model.  What percentage of
> hospital visitors use dialysis or have organ transplants>  Shall these
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Re: That business/customer stuff (Was: Letter to AL)

Hi All,

within this debate is the disagreement that stems from varying viewpoints.  Eden writes from the
self-declared perspective of the administrative point of view.  (Clearly, there are as multiple
administrative viewpoints and his is just one of them.)  I think that could be the heart of the issue and also
the source of the wanted (by some) change to thiinking of our patrons as customers.  

I think maybe we need a sociologist or social psychologist to analyze the changes taking place, being
proposed, etc.  We are quite a divided community as to how to handle the changes we are experiencing
externally (in publishing and e-texts) and internally (financing and sweetheart projects versus the
"old" services). 

I wrote a short response (using Eden's article as a take-off point) that's at
http://www.cwu.edu/~dcc/Revitalizing.pdf for anyone interested.  I'm not sure if it's worth
expanding upon someday or not.  

Daniel

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Daniel CannCasciato
Head of Cataloging
Central Washington University Library
400 E. University Way
Ellensburg, WA 98926-7548
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Brian Briscoe | 2 Jun 16:31

Re: That business/customer stuff (Was: Letter to AL)

I am very aware that libraries differ from bookstores. In and earlier
post some time ago, I lamented libraries' efforts to mimic bookstores
and tried my best to point out libraries' strengths vs. bookstores.

We are now in a situation where librarians too often (in the public
sector, expecially) do not have the full reins. Managers of businesses
and/or non-library governemental entities are hired as library
directors and we are expected to follow their dictates. Without a good
understanding of the extra value we provide over bookstores, these
directors are often motivated to cut the bottom line.

Time we spend debating what we call those people we serve is time
taken from campaigns to show our directors and the public in general
that we provide a necessary service that cannot be subsumed by other
entities.

MIght I suggest that we as librarians (and nonprofessional library
staff) have done a poor job of promoting libraries as more than places
for children to get books? I believe that ALA should hire a prominent,
professional Public Relations/Marketing firm (Professional experts) to
create a strategy and campaign to send our message of real value to
the public and, more importantly, to the decision makers who steer
funding decisions for libraries. Press releases and legislative days
are not enough.

--

-- 
Brian K. Briscoe
Catalog Manager
St. Charles City-County Library District
(636) 441-2300 x1565
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Wayne Richter | 2 Jun 16:56
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Daniel CannCasciato wrote:

<<I wrote a short response (using Eden's article as a take-off point)
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at http://www.cwu.edu/~dcc/Revitalizing.pdf for anyone interested.  I'm
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not sure if it's worth expanding upon someday or not.>>

Bravo Daniel,

Very well stated!

Wayne Richter
Asian Materials Specialist/PCC Liaison
The Libraries
Western Washington University
Bellingham, WA 98225-9103

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Karen Benko | 2 Jun 17:36
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I feel compelled to refute this. As a library patron, I expect to be 
treated *better* than some customer at some store--and I am. I get 
things for free. If I can't find what I want, I get lots of help finding 
it, not just a suggestion to go to some other desk and fill out a form, 
or try some other store. And I get help from a knowledgeable person, 
which is not always the case when I'm in a store. When I'm done with the 
free things I take home, I don't have to store them forever or find 
another home for them--I can just take them back. If the library near me 
doesn't have what I want, I can fill out a web form and the thing I want 
will be delivered--for free--to the library near me. The library has a 
special section for my preschool son, not to sell him garbage but to 
engage and interest him in worthwhile books/toys/games/etc.

I could go on and on but I figure I'm preaching to the converted. I have 
to guess that if library patrons aspire to be treated *as well as* store 
customers, then they frequent either some awful (perhaps 
awfully-under-funded) libraries or some amazing stores. And, although I 
doubt the staff of the Williamstown and North Adams libraries are 
listening, I should also say that since I moved to this area, I've 
happily frequented two amazing libraries.
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> Subject:
> Re: That business/customer stuff (Was: Letter to AL)
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Re: That business/customer stuff (Was: Letter to AL)

I don't think that's actually a waste of time. I've had several family
members/friends tell me how much they hate being referred to as
customers rather than patrons in recent local library newsletters, etc.
They completely disapprove of the trend and its implications. So as long
as they actually care, I think it's worth discussing.

Kristen Northrup
State Document Depository
North Dakota State Library
Bismarck ND

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[snip]

Time we spend debating what we call those people we serve is time taken
from campaigns to show our directors and the public in general that we
provide a necessary service that cannot be subsumed by other entities.

MIght I suggest that we as librarians (and nonprofessional library
staff) have done a poor job of promoting libraries as more than places
for children to get books? I believe that ALA should hire a prominent,
professional Public Relations/Marketing firm (Professional experts) to
create a strategy and campaign to send our message of real value to the
public and, more importantly, to the decision makers who steer funding
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Laura Akerman | 2 Jun 17:26
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Old Records, New Records, New Interfaces: Catalog Form and Function Interest Group Forum, ALA Saturday, 10:30

"Old Records, New Records, New Interfaces"
ALCTS Catalog Form and Function Interest Group
Saturday, June 28, 10:30-12:00 a.m.
Marriott Anaheim Platinum Room 6

Building a "next generation" catalog, or planning for one?  Come to the 
forum, "Old Records, New Records, New Interfaces"  sponsored by the 
ALCTS Catalog Form and Function Interest Group and hear from three 
librarians who have recently navigated such a transition in their own 
organizations and can help you visualize the some of the promise and 
pitfalls of catalog redesign!

    Charley Pennell, Principal Cataloger for Metadata, NC State 
University Libraries
    Mary Charles Lasater, Authorities Librarian,  Jean and Alexander 
Heard Library, Vanderbilt University
    Cheryl Gowing, Director, Information Management & Systems, 
University of Miami

At the end of the meeting we will be holding a vote for a new Vice 
Chair/Chair Elect for the Interest Group.  If you are interested contact 
Laura Akerman, Chair (liblna@...) or Charley Pennell, Vice 
Chair/Chair Elect (cpennell@...).

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-- 
Laura Akerman, Technology and Metadata Librarian
Robert W. Woodruff Library, Room 128
Emory University
Atlanta, Ga. 30322
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Suzanne Stauffer | 2 Jun 18:50
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Re: That business/customer stuff (Was: Letter to AL)

Absolutely. Names matter. They define the thing named and its relationship to other things.

If names don't matter, then why did some change from "patron" or "user" to "customer?" 

Suzanne M. Stauffer, Ph.D.
Assistant Professor
School of Library and Information Science
Louisiana State University
275 Coates Hall
Baton Rouge, LA 70803
(225)578-1461
Fax: (225)578-4581
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From: AUTOCAT on behalf of Northrup, Kristen D.
Sent: Mon 6/2/2008 10:57 AM
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Subject: Re: [ACAT] That business/customer stuff (Was: Letter to AL)

I don't think that's actually a waste of time. I've had several family
members/friends tell me how much they hate being referred to as
customers rather than patrons in recent local library newsletters, etc.
They completely disapprove of the trend and its implications. So as long
as they actually care, I think it's worth discussing.

Kristen Northrup
State Document Depository
North Dakota State Library
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Re: Daily Typo -June 2, 2008 - Rememberance for Remembrance

Rememberance for Remembrance brings to mind a quote by Steven Wright: "I
can't bear to think about the past - all those memories..." This error
is found in the B or High Probability section of Typographical Errors in
Library Databases at
http://faculty.quinnipiac.edu/libraries/tballard/typoscomplete.html
One can see how this error happened - it looks right and the problem is
at the end of a long word. Seeing the word may have triggered something
in the proofreader to think about a lost sled from childhood instead of
the work at hand. We hope you will remember to check your catalog,
because there are more than 290 examples of rememberance this morning in
Worldcat, which makes it fairly likely that this will appear in your
catalog. To close with a phrase that I may or may not have coined - "My
memory has a mind of its own."

Today's photo is http://www.pbase.com/image/67140226, which is the town
of Avoca, south of Dublin, Ireland. We remember this from a visit in
2004 and from the fact that it was the shooting location for the
excellent television series Ballykissangel.

Terry Ballard, Automation Librarian
The Arnold Bernhard Library
Quinnipiac University
275 Mt. Carmel Avenue
Hamden, CT, 06518
203-582-8945 Fax:203-582-3451
Web: Faculty.quinnipiac.edu/libraries/tballard
Blog: Librariansonedge.blogspot.com

"Reality is just a theory."

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