J. McRee Elrod | 1 Nov 02:31
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Re: Branch offices of corporate bodies

John G. Marr said:

>   If the Fairbanks branch is going to be considered a subordinate body, 
>you 1st have to do an authority record for the main body. The question is 
>phrased to indicate that "McGreevey & Schmutz" is a unique name and does 
>not refer to itself as "P.C.", so the "P.C." and the qualifier 
>"(Anchorage, Alaska)" would not be necessary or appropriate-- 

The library in question uses local authorities, and according to the
original post, always qualifies by place.  Cataloguing for law firms
as we do, we can appreciate their choice.  The inconsistency in form
of headings produced by rules and LC practice sometimes make no sense
to our law firm patrons.  

You will note that the 2nd indicator in my suggestion is "4",
indicating local practice.  (This assumes the Fairbanks Branck calls
itself the Fairbanks Branch.)  

Since the poster said it is a made up example, how do you know the
firm does not refer to itself at "P.C"?

610 24 $aMcGreevey & Schmutz P.C. (Anchorage, Alaska)$bFairbanks
Branch.

No library *has* to establish authorities at the national level if it
does not wish to do so.

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Ahmad Taleb | 1 Nov 13:17
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Fiction and Fictitious character

Can we use the subdivision Fictitious charater under names of persons other than truley fictitious
characters (i.e. real persons)? Or we should use in this case the subdivison Fiction?

Ahmad Taleb
Technical Services Librarian
Lebanese American University
P.O. Box 36
Byblos, Lebanon
Tel: 09-547254/62 Ext. 2272

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Helen Buhler | 1 Nov 13:31
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Re: Fiction and Fictitious character

On 1 November 2007 at 14:17, Ahmad Taleb <ahmad.taleb@...> wrote:
> Can we use the subdivision Fictitious charater under names of persons other t
han truley fictitious characters (i.e. real persons)? Or we should use in this 
case the subdivison Fiction?
> 
Not if they are (or were) real people, Ahmad.  In the case of a real
perosn you'd use 600 1 0 $a Austen, Jane $v Fiction. for novels or 
stories about her (a thriving genre).  James Bond, however, would have 
650  0 $a Bond, James (Fictitious character).  In either case, if the
book in hand is *about* fiction about real or imaginary person, as
opposed to the actual fiction,you'd add a$xCriticism and interpretation 
to separate those books from the actual fiction.

Hope this helps,

Helen
Helen Buhler,
Classification Coordinator, The Templeman Library,
The University of Kent, Canterbury, Kent CT2 7NU.    
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Catherine C. Lucy | 1 Nov 15:03
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Re: C.A. Cutter's three-figure author table

Olivia Hamilton said:
>I have a spare copy of the Cutter Sanborn three figure author table
>Swanson Swift revision 1969 if you want it.

Mac Elrod replied:
"The Cutter-Sanborn table uses one letter and numbers.  The C. A.
Cutter table uses two letters for vowels and S, three for Sc.  The two
can not be interfiled.  We've seen  messes result from the confusion
between the two, including the use of Cutter-Sanborn with two letters
in vowels and S, so taught by one professor in one library school.  
The old C.A. Cutter table is the one exception I make to being opposed
to book burning :-{)}."
*********************************************

Thanks for clarifying this for everyone, and thanks to Olivia for her
generous offer (though I have to pass).  I think many of us are confused
by the different tables.  The links sent to me on and off the list were
for the Cutter-Sanborn table, not the C.A. Cutter table.  I will presume
the version I need is not online, and not in high demand (point taken,
Mac).

Thank you to everyone who replied to my original message.  Several
people also suggested that I download OCLC's Web Dewey program, but it
isn't the same, either.  The website states that the "OCLC Four-Figure
Cutter Tables are revised and expanded versions of Cutter Three-Figure
Author Table [and] Cutter-Sanborn Three-Figure Author Table."  

When you run the program, you are given the option to select a four
figure table or the Cutter-Sanborn table.  And while the 4 figure table
is similar to the 3 figure table, I need an *exact* match.  For example,
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H. Stephen Wright | 1 Nov 15:16

Re: Cataloging glitch, or am I missing something?

On Wed, 31 Oct 2007 14:59:45 -0400, Ballard, Terry Prof. 
<Terry.Ballard@...> wrote:

>Her chief concern was that the Real Statistical Abstract came in 4th
>behind hits that were much less relevant.

That's pretty good ... in our catalog, it comes up sixth!  I was forced to 
endure the tribulation of scrolling down.  :)

The issue is not that $t is indexed.  De-indexing it would have some 
extremely undesirable consequences, as others have already pointed out.  
Rather, it's that title search results tend to be sorted alphabetically or 
chronologically.  Your colleague seems to want a relevance-sorted title 
search that weights 245s ahead of other title fields.  That might indeed 
be a interesting option to have, although I would still be very reluctant 
to make it the default sort.

H. Stephen Wright
Catalog Librarian
Northern Illinois University
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Rich Aldred | 1 Nov 16:56
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Re: Daily typo - October 31, 2007

At 05:55 PM 10/31/2007, Schutt, Misha wrote:
>(So what should we be hunting down next weeek?)

You had to mention that 8{)}.  I found quite a few, beee*, weee*, etc.

Rich Aldred
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Haverford College
Haverford, PA 19041
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Sandy Orr | 1 Nov 16:05
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Barbara Michaels/Elizabeth Peters

I was just doing some weeding up in the fiction section, and came across
two books by Barbara Michaels mixed in with the books by Elizabeth
Peters.  They had the same call number, so I brought them down, assuming
the call numbers were wrong.  I discovered that Michaels and Peters were
the same person, which I hadn't known.  But now I'm wondering why they
have the same call number?  I looked up the authority records and the
base LC call number is the same in both records.  Even though they're
the same person, she uses different names for different genres, and it
seems odd that they would be assigned the same number.  I know I can
locally change the two Michaels books to another number (since there's
only two, and probably 15 of Peters, easier to change two than 15), but
does anyone know if there's some logical reason to keep them together?

Sandy Orr

Non-Print Cataloging Librarian

Paul Meek Library

University of Tennessee at Martin

(731)-881-7072

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Sandra Macke | 1 Nov 16:23
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Re: Fiction and Fictitious character

I'm sorry, but that doesn't seem right to me.

According the Free floating subdivisions - Criticism and interpretation is
"Use for works consisting of critical analysis or interpretation of the
person's literary or artistic works or endeavors without biographical
details. Use this subdivision only under persons active in the fine arts,
literature, music, and performing arts."

How I see it in the case of James Bond:

 - Dr. No (the novel) would get: 
Bond, James (Fictitious character) $v Fiction.
 - Dr. No (the film) would get:
Bond, James (Fictitious character) $v Drama.

A book looking at how James Bond is portrayed in the movies would get: 
Bond, James (Fictitious character)
James Bond films.

A book about the Ian Fleming novels would get:
Bond, James (Fictitious character)
Fleming, Ian, $d 1908-1964 $x Characters $x James Bond

Am I missing something (which is entirely possible)?

Thanks,
Sandy

Sandra Macke
Catalog Librarian
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McKean, Greg | 1 Nov 16:26
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Position Announcement, Berkeley, California

Cross-posted. Please excuse duplication.

Berkeley Public Library is inviting applications for Librarian I/II.
Current openings are in Cataloging and Information Technology. 

Hiring salary range: $55, 608-$72,780, plus benefits. For complete
information, see the City of Berkeley Employment Opportunities site: 

http://www.ci.berkeley.ca.us/hr/Jobs/jobslist.htm 

Applications must be submitted by Monday, November 26, 2007 5 PM PST.

The Cataloging Librarian will perform in an online environment, original
and copy cataloging of adult, foreign language and children's materials
in a variety of formats, including assigning call numbers and modifiying
subject headings to Berkeley Public Library standards.

The ideal candidate should have experience cataloging using AACR2, MARC,
DDC, LCSH, and LCNA; experience using the III integrated library system;
familiarity with OCLC Connexion, reading knowledge of at least one
foreign language, preferably Chinese, Japanese, or Russian. Cataloging
positions include some collection development assignments and work on a
public service desk.  

Gregory McKean

Cataloging Supervisor

Berkeley Public Library

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King, Jamie | 1 Nov 16:32
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Re: Fiction and Fictitious character

I believe you're right, Sandy.  Also, from SCM H1790:

6b. Fiction about individual persons or families. For criticism of
fiction about particular individuals or families, including dynasties
and royal houses, assign the name of the person or family with the
free-floating subdivision -In literature, e.g. Faust, d. ca. 1540-In
literature; Mann family-In literature.

So for a work discussing how Jane Austen is portrayed in fiction, you'd
have

600 10 $a Austen, Jane, $d 1775-1817 $x In literature.

Jamie King
Cataloger
Follett Library Resources
McHenry, IL

> -----Original Message-----
> > 
> I'm sorry, but that doesn't seem right to me.
> 
> According the Free floating subdivisions - Criticism and
interpretation
> is
> "Use for works consisting of critical analysis or interpretation of
the
> person's literary or artistic works or endeavors without biographical
> details. Use this subdivision only under persons active in the fine
> arts,
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