Ed Kazzimir | 1 Aug 18:44

Recording Incorrect ISSN Numbers in Series Statements

Hello to all,

I have been working on a number of titles from the same series: Canadian
Manuscript Report of Fisheries and Aquatic Sciences.

We have been adding a series statement with the ISSN from the title page
verso in subfield x.

440 _0 $a Canadian Manuscript Report of Fisheries and Aquatic Sciences, $x
0706-6473 ; $v no. xxxx

I have one report that has an incorrect ISSN number, 07065-6473. It does
not validate on OCLC in the 440 field.

How do I add this and the correct ISSN to the record?

Kitty P. Benson, MLS
Alaska Resources Library and Information Services (ARLIS)
Library Building, Suite 111
3211 Providence Drive
Anchorage, Alaska 99508
phone: 907-786-7651
FAX: 907-786-7652
e-mail: kitty@.arlis.org

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Rich Aldred | 1 Aug 20:38
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Star wars capitalization

Dear Collective Wisdom,

Whew!  I was instructed to correct a record in our catalog for Star 
wars, the new Jedi order.

So I looked in the OCLC authority file, and the capitalization is 
wildly inconsistent!

Some are Star Wars, some Star wars.  Even within subseries, such as 
Star wars, The new Jedi order.

I know it's easy to correct these globally in our (III) system, but I 
don't know about LC's.

Anybody have insight into justifications one way or the other?

Shouldn't they be consistent?

Thanks,

Rich Aldred
Catalog Librarian
Haverford College
Haverford, PA 19041
Voice: 610-896-1273
Email: raldred@...
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Mitchell, Michael | 1 Aug 20:40

Re: Star wars capitalization

LC authority no 99076765 is Star Wars, the new Jedi order

Michael Mitchell
Technical Services Librarian
Brazosport College
Lake Jackson, TX
michael.mitchell at brazosport.edu 

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Subject: [ACAT] Star wars capitalization

Dear Collective Wisdom,

Whew!  I was instructed to correct a record in our catalog for Star
wars, the new Jedi order.

So I looked in the OCLC authority file, and the capitalization is wildly
inconsistent!

Some are Star Wars, some Star wars.  Even within subseries, such as Star
wars, The new Jedi order.

I know it's easy to correct these globally in our (III) system, but I
don't know about LC's.

Anybody have insight into justifications one way or the other?

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Kevin M. Randall | 1 Aug 22:44
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Re: Star wars capitalization

At 01:38 PM 8/1/2007, Rich Aldred wrote:
>Whew!  I was instructed to correct a record in our catalog for Star wars, 
>the new Jedi order.  So I looked in the OCLC authority file, and the 
>capitalization is wildly inconsistent!  Some are Star Wars, some Star 
>wars.  Even within subseries, such as Star wars, The new Jedi order.  I 
>know it's easy to correct these globally in our (III) system, but I don't 
>know about LC's.  Anybody have insight into justifications one way or the 
>other?  Shouldn't they be consistent?

Yes, they should be consistent.  But the NACO series authority records are 
not.  The series is established as "Star wars, the new Jedi order", which 
happens to be correct according to AACR2.  However, whenever it is used as 
a reference in any other authority record, it is entered as "Star wars, The 
new Jedi order".  (Strangely, the French version is done differently; it is 
established as "Star wars, Le nouvel ordre Jedi" but appears as a reference 
in the authority record for the English title as "Star wars, le nouvel 
ordre Jedi".  Sheesh!)

The article should be capitalized only if it is treated as the first word 
in a section title, for example:

         $a Star wars. $p The new Jedi order

However, that's not how the series title was set up.

That being said, I must express strong objection to how LC has generally 
been establishing the Star Wars titles.  For example:

         $a Star Wars, episode III, revenge of the Sith (Motion picture)

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Joudrey, Daniel | 1 Aug 22:44

Re: MLIS in Cataloging / Martha Yee's comments on LIS education

On Aug 01, 2007, at 01:06 pm, shellis@... wrote:
> Second, as of the end of the 2006-07 academic year (May/June 2007),  
> there are currently eight ALA-accredited library programs that  
> require students earning the MLIS to take a cataloging course.  
> These schools are Clarion, Hawaii, Denver, North Carolina --  
> Greensboro, Southern Mississippi, SUNY
> Buffalo, Toronto, Wisconsin -- Madison. The initial accreditation  
> of Valdosta brings another school to this elite group.

> my research suggests that the texts provide more appropriate  
> insight into the content and
> learning objectives. Consequently, organization of information  
> courses don't quality as "legitimate" cataloging in my book.

I believe the number of required cataloging courses to be a little  
bit higher, closer to 15 (at least as of the 2005-2006 school year).  
The difference, of course, may be related to how we each define a  
"cataloging" course. For instance, Southern Connecticut, Missouri,  
Wayne State and several others require a course that I would call  
"Cataloging" based on the course description and syllabi, but those  
schools call the courses: "Organization of Knowledge," "Information  
Analysis," "Organization of Materials," etc. Semantic differences  
aside, when using textbooks as an indicator (as you suggested), the  
number is still higher because those school I just mentioned require  
or recommend AACR2, Chan's Cat and Class, or Taylor's Intro to Cat  
and Class as textbooks for their required courses (instead of or in  
addition to Taylor's Organization of Information). Those textbooks  
seem to indicate a cataloging course, at least to me. So, I don't  
think the number of required cataloging courses among library schools  
is as small as eight. On the other hand, at what depth any of these  
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Adam Kubik | 1 Aug 23:54

Re: Star wars capitalization

Kevin Randall noted:
I must express strong objection to how LC has generally been
establishing the Star Wars titles.  For example:
$a Star Wars, episode III, revenge of the Sith (Motion picture)
Yikes!  This should CLEARLY be:
$a Star wars. $n Episode III, $p Revenge of the Sith (Motion picture)

This is not an area of expertise so I will not opine as to which way is
*correct*; however, the following instruction and examples, taken from
the end of Sec.1B of Archival Moving Image Materials (which LC is using
for cataloging films) may shed some light on this practice of LC:

A number and/or phrase integral to the title should be included as part
of the title proper.
245 00 $a Star trek II, the wrath of Khan.
245 00 $a Jaws 2.
245 00 $a Syvilla, they dance to her drum.

Note particularly the first example.

Also, note the authority records n 2001027409, nr2002042474, and n
2003042570 which cover the recent film adaptation of the Lord of the
Rings trilogy. They are handled in the same way as Kevin's first
example. The books themselves, of course, are not treated in this way.

Adam Kubik
Catalog Librarian
Clayton State University
2000 Clayton State Blvd.
Morrow, GA 30260-0285
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Hal Cain | 2 Aug 00:32
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Re: Star wars capitalization

Quoting Adam Kubik <AdamKubik@...>:

> A number and/or phrase integral to the title should be included as part
> of the title proper.
> 245 00 $a Star trek II, the wrath of Khan.
> 245 00 $a Jaws 2.
> 245 00 $a Syvilla, they dance to her drum.
>
> Note particularly the first example.

But that doesn't really establish anything; part number (or other  
sequential designation) and part-title (normally segmented as $n and  
$p) are part of the title proper of a document; I don't recall  
anything that suggests they be treated differently in constructing  
work/expression authorities/access points/headings.  (Vocabulary is  
becoming impossible!)

I can only agree 100% with Kevin Randall about subfielding.  However,  
LC cataloguing practice has for years tended to take number attached  
to tile as part of the title; just yesterday I was dealing with Ulrich  
Luz's three-part commentary on Matthew (English translation),the title  
of the 1st volume of which, in its latest edition, has been rendered  
by LC:
245 10 |a Matthew 1-7 : |b a commentary / |c by Ulrich Luz   [etc.]

They've been doing this for years; see successive volumes of  
multi-part titles in the Anchor Bible series.  The part of the LC  
series decision which says that manifestations with analyzable titles  
will be catalogued as separates exemplifies the same mindset: treat  
whatever is separately citeable as a separate unit; then, of course,  
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Hal Cain | 2 Aug 00:42
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Re: Recording Incorrect ISSN Numbers in Series Statements

Quoting Ed Kazzimir <edwardk@...>:

> Hello to all,
>
> I have been working on a number of titles from the same series: Canadian
> Manuscript Report of Fisheries and Aquatic Sciences.
>
> We have been adding a series statement with the ISSN from the title page
> verso in subfield x.
>
> 440 _0 $a Canadian Manuscript Report of Fisheries and Aquatic Sciences, $x
> 0706-6473 ; $v no. xxxx
>
> I have one report that has an incorrect ISSN number, 07065-6473. It does
> not validate on OCLC in the 440 field.
>
> How do I add this and the correct ISSN to the record?

Use the correct ISSN (as found in other records).  There's no  
provision for the incorrect number.

ISSN format is always nnnn-nnnn.

Standard numbers are not transcription-based -- AACR2 says "any  
source" (I don't have it in front of me, though) -- though it's right  
to record incorrect numbers in 020 and 022 when they're for the whole  
resource being catalogued.  I single instance of an incorrect ISSN on  
one issue of a serial or series probably isn't significant.  If  
somehow it is, all you can do is make a note.  Don't put it in 022 $y  
or $z.
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