Raghu Vittal Rao | 1 Dec 07:11 2008
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Re: (GRE Success! ) SOP/Resume and Recos

On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 9:01 PM, Sri Harsha <sriharsha24 <at> yahoo.com> wrote:
> Hello Varadhan,
>
> That is very true. Having to use some flowery words in SoP must be avoided.
> The usage of such words happens when one is out of words and start borrowing
> from someone else's SoPs. One could capture the structure of a well written
> SoP, not the whole words or ideas.
>
> But if you do mention words like 'passion', then justify it. Otherwise, just
> write plain sentences. The essay should be such that it should reflect your
> honesty and willingness to go for higher studies. Remember, no one SoP is
> excellent. Every SoP is a good essay in its own right. It takes time to
> write any good written work, SoP is no different.
>
> If you see your SoP after 10 years, it should bring back the true you and
> resonate with what you were and what you are now. Its a thrilling feeling to
> discover that whatever is written in your SoP was 'you'. You should be able
> to identify with it. As time goes by, your SoP will become your personal
> essay about you as a student.
>

This could be quite hard; 10 years is a long time. People's interests
and what they want out of life can change significantly in this much
time. Having to be so clear about one's entire life *right now* is
particularly hard. I, for instance, have clear sight of my life for
may be a couple years from now; everything about it after that is
still rather blurry. I could be doing a PhD after two years, I could
have bid farewell to academia and be working somewhere after two
years, I could be... heck I don't know! All I know is, two years from
now, I'll have an MS.

If one can have such a clear idea of one's life, I laud one.

Raghu

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Raghu Vittal Rao | 1 Dec 07:16 2008
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Re: (GRE Success! ) Official GRE score

What's worrying going to do? Nothing.

I am guessing there is a way to order score reports without having
your registration number; check with the ETS website (inviting others
to pitch in here; things changed since I took The Test). If that
telephone call system is still up, I guess you can order official
score reports without your printed copy and reg number. A friend of
mine, now in UTA, was able to do it. He got his printed score report 2
days after he ordered.

Raghu

On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 7:55 AM, Brandee <imurfriend30 <at> yahoo.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I haven't yet received my official score. Its been almost 7 weeks! Should I
> worry? What should I do?
>
> Thanks in advance!
> Brandee!
>
>

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gre | 1 Dec 11:32 2008
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(GRE Success! ) File - Monthly Reminder


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5. Also kindly note, I strongly discourage any personal messages or communications across the group. I will be moderating without exception, any messages that are either low in utility, or are sensitive, racial, or disapprovable in any manner.

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Senthil Kumaran | 1 Dec 11:19 2008
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Re: (GRE Success! ) Multitude of statements, University of Minnesota. Please help!!

On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 07:50:15AM -0800, Varadhan SKM wrote:
> This will be your SOP. I dont think you need to send another SOP
> separately. So it is not redundant.

Unless the university has asked for it separately.
Priyanshu, if there are 3 questions and then there is another field to
upload your SOP as pdf. Then IMO, we have to answer these three
questions and SOP, which would include answer to these questions
and additional info would which present the candidate suitably for the
course,should be uploaded.
How is it in the form? If there is no other field to upload SOP, then
as Varadhan says this is SOP.

--
Senthil

> --- On Sun, 11/30/08, Priyanshu Agarwal <mail2priyanshu <at> yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
> From: Priyanshu Agarwal <mail2priyanshu <at> yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: (GRE Success! ) Multitude of statements, University of
> Minnesota. Please help!!
> To: "G" <gre-success <at> yahoogroups.com>
> Date: Sunday, November 30, 2008, 12:55 AM
>
>
> Thanks a lot for your valuable replies sirs....
> Please clarify one more thing. How is Statement#1 different from the
> Statement of Purpose? I mean I have to mention the following in my SOP
> and in a way it is redundant:
> 1) What is career path you want to pursue and why?
> 2) What kind of program will help you with your career objective? How
> does this school's program suit you?
> Please guide.
> Regards,
> Priyanshu
>

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Priyanshu Agarwal | 1 Dec 05:44 2008
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Re: (GRE Success! ) Multitude of statements, University of Minnesota. Please help!!

Sir,

I have contacted the  Assistant Academic Advisor of Mechanical Engineering and he mentioned the following:

"When filling out the application you will need to fill in all 4 statements, including the personal statement with your top three areas of research..  "

In such a scenario should I provide different information in my Statement of Purpose and Statement#1 so as to give them an exhaustive overview of my life.

Please comment.

Anticipating a positive response.

Regards,
Priyanshu


--- On Sun, 11/30/08, Varadhan SKM <skm_iitm <at> yahoo.com> wrote:
From: Varadhan SKM <skm_iitm <at> yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: (GRE Success! ) Multitude of statements, University of Minnesota. Please help!!
To: gre-success <at> yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, November 30, 2008, 9:20 PM

This will be your SOP. I dont think you need to send another SOP separately. So it is not redundant.

--- On Sun, 11/30/08, Priyanshu Agarwal <mail2priyanshu <at> yahoo.com> wrote:
From: Priyanshu Agarwal <mail2priyanshu <at> yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: (GRE Success! ) Multitude of statements, University of Minnesota. Please help!!
To: "G" <gre-success <at> yahoogroups. com>
Date: Sunday, November 30, 2008, 12:55 AM

Thanks a lot for your valuable replies sirs....

Please clarify one more thing. How is Statement#1 different from the Statement of Purpose? I mean I have to mention the following in my SOP and in a way it is redundant:

1) What is career path you want to pursue and why?
2) What kind of program will help you with your career objective? How
does this school's program suit you?

Please guide.

Regards,
Priyanshu



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Yamanoor Srihari | 1 Dec 20:02 2008
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Re: (GRE Success! ) Multitude of statements

Hello Senthil and Priyanshu,
 
This is a style of "Business School" SOP where you don't simply write an open ended essay. Insteady, you write 4..lol.
 
Actually, you write your SOP and the questions tend to guide your purpose along. Many times they help people who are extremely introspective and can't stop talking about their past...
 
So, go ahead and answer these 4 questions like Varadhan suggested and you should be good to go!
 
Good Luck,
 
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--- On Mon, 12/1/08, Senthil Kumaran <orsenthil <at> gmail.com> wrote:
From: Senthil Kumaran <orsenthil <at> gmail.com>
Subject: Re: (GRE Success! ) Multitude of statements, University of Minnesota. Please help!!
To: gre-success <at> yahoogroups.com
Date: Monday, December 1, 2008, 2:19 AM

On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 07:50:15AM -0800, Varadhan SKM wrote:
> This will be your SOP. I dont think you need to send another SOP
> separately. So it is not redundant.

Unless the university has asked for it separately.
Priyanshu, if there are 3 questions and then there is another field to
upload your SOP as pdf. Then IMO, we have to answer these three
questions and SOP, which would include answer to these questions
and additional info would which present the candidate suitably for the
course,should be uploaded.
How is it in the form? If there is no other field to upload SOP, then
as Varadhan says this is SOP.

--
Senthil

> --- On Sun, 11/30/08, Priyanshu Agarwal <mail2priyanshu <at> yahoo.com>
> wrote:
>
> From: Priyanshu Agarwal <mail2priyanshu <at> yahoo.com>
> Subject: Re: (GRE Success! ) Multitude of statements, University of
> Minnesota. Please help!!
> To: "G" <gre-success <at> yahoogroups. com>
> Date: Sunday, November 30, 2008, 12:55 AM
>
>
> Thanks a lot for your valuable replies sirs....
> Please clarify one more thing. How is Statement#1 different from the
> Statement of Purpose? I mean I have to mention the following in my SOP
> and in a way it is redundant:
> 1) What i s career path you want to pursue and why?
> 2) What kind of program will help you with your career objective? How
> does this school's program suit you?
> Please guide.
> Regards,
> Priyanshu
>

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Yamanoor Srihari | 1 Dec 23:36 2008
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Re: (GRE Success! ) Official GRE score

Hello Brandee,
 
Raghu gives you excellent advice. One other thing - get it from the horse's mouth always. Call ETS and find out what you are to do to order scores since they have been kind enough to keep you for seven weeks in utter darkness.
 
Good Luck,
 
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--- On Sun, 11/30/08, Raghu Vittal Rao <raghu.v.rao <at> gmail.com> wrote:
From: Raghu Vittal Rao <raghu.v.rao <at> gmail.com>
Subject: Re: (GRE Success! ) Official GRE score
To: gre-success <at> yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, November 30, 2008, 10:16 PM

What's worrying going to do? Nothing.

I am guessing there is a way to order score reports without having
your registration number; check with the ETS website (inviting others
to pitch in here; things changed since I took The Test). If that
telephone call system is still up, I guess you can order official
score reports without your printed copy and reg number. A friend of
mine, now in UTA, was able to do it. He got his printed score report 2
days after he ordered.

Raghu

On Sun, Nov 30, 2008 at 7:55 AM, Brandee <imurfriend30 <at> yahoo.com> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> I haven't yet received my official score. Its been almost 7 weeks! Should I
> worry? What s hould I do?
>
> Thanks in advance!
> Brandee!
>
>
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Yamanoor Srihari | 2 Dec 00:29 2008
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Re: (GRE Success! ) SOP/Resume and Recos

Hello Raghu,
 
I think you are missing one of Sri Harsha's finer points while you state some amazing ones yourself. We all change. But, if you write down your life as you see it 10 years from now and then opened it up on the 10th year, will you still feel that your goals were written in true earnest - that your direction changes were indeed direction changes - and not goals that were truly different from the person you were.
 
Was I really meaning the things I was saying 10 years ago? And since, then have I distinctly changed for reasons a, b and c?
 
Or,
 
Was I saying things, which I later found to be untrue to my nature - was I saying things because I thought I should - was I faking a philosophical stance? If so, the new me, is he/she a form of original thought, or a further machination of trying to please someone by saying something?
 
Did I join the course because I truly wanted it at time X and did I change it because my perspective truly changed at time Y?
 
Did I join the course because my uncle, friend, random stranger on the bus stand or neighbor's dog thought it was a splendid idea at time X and then did I change it again at time Y, only that this was the first time I actually wanted it...?
 
Did President Bush get selected in 2001 and elected in 2004 and was neither of them true change or was 2004 real change because he actually got elected this time? Did Bush ever achieve his goal? See, makes a big difference if you are President Bush..!
 
Good Luck,
 
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--- On Sun, 11/30/08, Raghu Vittal Rao <raghu.v.rao <at> gmail.com> wrote:
From: Raghu Vittal Rao <raghu.v.rao <at> gmail.com>
Subject: Re: (GRE Success! ) SOP/Resume and Recos
To: gre-success <at> yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, November 30, 2008, 10:11 PM

On Fri, Nov 28, 2008 at 9:01 PM, Sri Harsha <sriharsha24 <at> yahoo.com> wrote:
> Hello Varadhan,
>
> That is very true. Having to use some flowery words in SoP must be avoided.
> The usage of such words happens when one is out of words and start borrowing
> from someone else's SoPs. One could capture the structure of a well written
> SoP, not the whole words or ideas.
>
> But if you do mention words like 'passion', then justify it. Otherwise, just
> write plain sentences. The essay should be such that it should reflect your
> honesty and willingness to go for higher studies. Remember, no one SoP is
> excellent. Every SoP is a good essay in it s own right. It takes time to
> write any good written work, SoP is no different.
>
> If you see your SoP after 10 years, it should bring back the true you and
> resonate with what you were and what you are now. Its a thrilling feeling to
> discover that whatever is written in your SoP was 'you'. You should be able
> to identify with it. As time goes by, your SoP will become your personal
> essay about you as a student.
>

This could be quite hard; 10 years is a long time. People's interests
and what they want out of life can change significantly in this much
time. Having to be so clear about one's entire life *right now* is
particularly hard. I, for instance, have clear sight of my life for
may be a couple years from now; everything about it after that is
still rather blurry. I could be doing a PhD after two years, I could
have bid farewell to academia and be working somewhere after two
years, I could be... heck I don't know! All I know is, two years from
now, I'll have an MS.

If one can have such a clear idea of one's life, I laud one.

Raghu
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Yamanoor Srihari | 2 Dec 01:25 2008
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Re: (GRE Success! ) SOP!!!

Hello Priyanshu,
 
They are actually very different. The first one specifically wants you to define your ideal career path and the second one requires you to define exactly what coursework will help you achieve your career goals.
 
They want you to talk specifically about your future and they want you to do the ground work as well.
 
For everyone, these two questions should serve as near perfect yardsticks on how to write a SOP - no dreams of engineering from the age in which holding food down was not mandatory - just a good focus on your future.
 
Good Luck,
 
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--- On Sat, 11/29/08, Priyanshu Agarwal <mail2priyanshu <at> yahoo.com> wrote:
From: Priyanshu Agarwal <mail2priyanshu <at> yahoo.com>
Subject: Re: (GRE Success! ) Multitude of statements, University of Minnesota. Please help!!
To: "G" <gre-success <at> yahoogroups.com>
Date: Saturday, November 29, 2008, 9:55 PM

Thanks a lot for your valuable replies sirs....

Please clarify one more thing. How is Statement#1 different from the Statement of Purpose? I mean I have to mention the following in my SOP and in a way it is redundant:

1) What is career path you want to pursue and why?
2) What kind of program will help you with your career objective? How
does this school's program suit you?

Please guide.

Re gards,
Priyanshu

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prasanna mukund | 2 Dec 05:52 2008
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(GRE Success! ) Doubt on Application Fee payment.

Hi All,

Some universities are asking to pay the Application Fee by Cheque. How can the payment be made from here in India. The dollar keeps fluctuating so how should I calculate the conversion factor.

Pl help

Jai Hind

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