15 Nov 2012 22:53
Re: Re: what happened to Wikipedia COinS?
Andy,
you seem to be a proponent - it now seems they (who, really?) has thrown out the child with the bathwater. Why didn't they at least AJAX the data in on demand (if page load times were the issue?)
Really unfortunate, especially since they (Wikipedia) didn't even know how widely their COinS were used. Certainly, they added real value to users of LibX, even with their current (limited) implementation. Many newspaper articles that were inaccessible with the direct link on the Wikipedia page became accessible just via the OpenURL resolver.
The big irony is this: I was just able to recruit a student to refine COinS support in LibX using the now available Summon API/Widget service to direct-link to a resource. We're having our 2nd meeting, and wanted to start with an analysis of the real-world COinS quality provided by Wikipedia to see which techniques to use to provide the user with direct access. Then they're gone.
I'm not sure if we'll invest in 2001-style scraping of metadata without any easily discernible metadata formatting/embedding.
- Godmar
On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 3:46 PM, Andy Mabbett <andy-VPqQCyIUKlYeBxrm02tS/ekiAK3p4hvP@public.gmane.org> wrote:
Yes; what more would you like to know?
See also:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Wikipedia_talk:WikiProject_Microformats#Proposal:_citation_microformat> --
On 15 November 2012 20:37, Godmar Back <godmar-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>
> This happened:
> http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Template_talk:Citation/core#Removing_COINS_metadata
>
> They removed it because their implementation was too slow
>
> It doesn't appear that they included any of the microformats, either.
>
> Does anyone have any perspective/insider knowledge on this?
>
>
> On Thu, Nov 15, 2012 at 2:35 PM, Godmar Back <godmar-Re5JQEeQqe8AvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org> wrote:
>>
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> does anyone know what happened to Wikipedia's COinS?
>>
>> They seem to have been removed (!?)
>>
>> - Godmar
>>
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