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Ann English | 1 May 2009 09:45
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Spam


On 1/05/2009, at 8:59 AM, Huseyin Bozdag sent a message about a  
holiday, May Day.

That's usually good.   We like to help people with their English.  If  
people write about things they know, it is easier for them.

Huseyin's message didn't ask for help.  It sounded as if Huseyin  
wanted to tell us something.  And it seemed from the "To:" address  
that Huseyin didn't send one message to this group, but sent a number  
of messages (all the same) to a number of groups.

Is this wise?

I like reading EngFor messages.  I don't like it when messages aren't  
really asking for help, but are trying to sell me an idea.  Whether I  
agree with Huseyin's ideas or not, EngFor is not where I want to read  
them.

And - even worse - let's say I disagreed with the the ideas of  
someone, not Huseyin but Person PQR.  How easy it would be for me to  
write back and say "What a foolish person PQR is!  What stupid ideas  
PQR has!"

Then PQR would write back and call me names.  It is so easy on the  
Internet to have a "flame war."  This is always a bad thing, I think.

What do other people think?

Ann
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Natasha The Bear | 1 May 2009 10:06
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Re: May 1st - the Real Labor Day

And looked what happened to the Workers Commonwealth. That grand red flag flew over the USSR.

--- On Thu, 4/30/09, Huseyin Bozdag <huseyinhan <at> yahoo.com> wrote:

From: Huseyin Bozdag <huseyinhan <at> yahoo.com>
Subject: [EngFor] May 1st - the Real Labor Day
To: 
Date: Thursday, April 30, 2009, 4:59 PM

 

May Day - the Real Labor Day

May 1st, International Workers' Day, commemorates the historic struggle of working people throughout
the world, and is recognized in every country except the United States, Canada, and South Africa. This
despite the fact that the holiday began in the 1880s in the United States, with the fight for an eight-hour
work day. 
  
As IWW songwriter Joe Hill wrote in one of his most powerful songs: 

Workers of the world, awaken!
Rise in all your splendid might
Take the wealth that you are making,
It belongs to you by right.
No one will for bread be crying
We'll have freedom, love and health,
When the grand red flag is flying
In the Workers' Commonwealth.
For more information go to link http://flag. blackened. net/daver/ anarchism/ mayday.html
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Tero Pesonen | 1 May 2009 13:48

Re: Spam

On Friday 01 May 2009, Ann English wrote:
> On 1/05/2009, at 8:59 AM, Huseyin Bozdag sent a message about a
> holiday, May Day.
>
>
> That's usually good.   We like to help people with their English.  If
> people write about things they know, it is easier for them.
>
> Huseyin's message didn't ask for help.  It sounded as if Huseyin
> wanted to tell us something.  And it seemed from the "To:" address
> that Huseyin didn't send one message to this group, but sent a number
> of messages (all the same) to a number of groups.
>
> Is this wise?
>
> I like reading EngFor messages.  I don't like it when messages aren't
> really asking for help, but are trying to sell me an idea.  Whether I
> agree with Huseyin's ideas or not, EngFor is not where I want to read
> them.
>
> And - even worse - let's say I disagreed with the the ideas of
> someone, not Huseyin but Person PQR.  How easy it would be for me to
> write back and say "What a foolish person PQR is!  What stupid ideas
> PQR has!"
>
> Then PQR would write back and call me names.  It is so easy on the
> Internet to have a "flame war."  This is always a bad thing, I think.
>
> What do other people think?
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Martin Zarate | 1 May 2009 14:40
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Spam

Hi friends,
I am in agreement with these posts.
This group is only for improving our English skills.
All the best
Martin

--- El vie 1-may-09, Tero Pesonen <tero <at> tpesonen.net> escribió:

De: Tero Pesonen <tero <at> tpesonen.net>
Asunto: Re: [EngFor] Spam
Para: EngFor <at> yahoogroups.com
Fecha: viernes, 1 de mayo de 2009, 8:48 am

On Friday 01 May 2009, Ann English wrote:
> On 1/05/2009, at 8:59 AM, Huseyin Bozdag sent a message about a
> holiday, May Day.
>
>
> That's usually good.   We like to help people with their English.  If
> people write about things they know, it is easier for them.
>
> Huseyin's message didn't ask for help.  It sounded as if Huseyin
> wanted to tell us something.  And it seemed from the "To:"
address
> that Huseyin didn't send one message to this group, but sent a number
> of messages (all the same) to a number of groups.
>
> Is this wise?
>
> I like reading EngFor messages.  I don't like it when messages
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Jack Waller | 1 May 2009 23:15
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Re: Spam

Just FYI, I banned Mr. Huseyin to keep him from sending any more spam.
Jack

On May 1, 2009, at 2:45 AM, Ann English wrote:

>
>
>
> On 1/05/2009, at 8:59 AM, Huseyin Bozdag sent a message about a
> holiday, May Day.
>
> That's usually good. We like to help people with their English. If
> people write about things they know, it is easier for them.
>
> Huseyin's message didn't ask for help. It sounded as if Huseyin
> wanted to tell us something. And it seemed from the "To:" address
> that Huseyin didn't send one message to this group, but sent a number
> of messages (all the same) to a number of groups.
>
> Is this wise?
>
> I like reading EngFor messages. I don't like it when messages aren't
> really asking for help, but are trying to sell me an idea. Whether I
> agree with Huseyin's ideas or not, EngFor is not where I want to read
> them.
>
> And - even worse - let's say I disagreed with the the ideas of
> someone, not Huseyin but Person PQR. How easy it would be for me to
> write back and say "What a foolish person PQR is! What stupid ideas
> PQR has!"
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Natasha The Bear | 3 May 2009 06:49
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Re: Spam

Too bad he is gone. I always enjoy a good fight.

--- On Fri, 5/1/09, Jack Waller <jackwaller <at> mac.com> wrote:

From: Jack Waller <jackwaller <at> mac.com>
Subject: Re: [EngFor] Spam
To: EngFor <at> yahoogroups.com
Date: Friday, May 1, 2009, 5:15 PM

Just FYI, I banned Mr. Huseyin to keep him from sending any more spam.
Jack

On May 1, 2009, at 2:45 AM, Ann English wrote:

>
>
>
> On 1/05/2009, at 8:59 AM, Huseyin Bozdag sent a message about a
> holiday, May Day.
>
> That's usually good. We like to help people with their English. If
> people write about things they know, it is easier for them.
>
> Huseyin's message didn't ask for help. It sounded as if Huseyin
> wanted to tell us something. And it seemed from the "To:" address
> that Huseyin didn't send one message to this group, but sent a number
> of messages (all the same) to a number of groups.
>
> Is this wise?
>
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Jack Waller | 3 May 2009 23:16
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Re: Spam

Here's an update:

Huseyin wrote me a nice letter apologizing and explaining that his  
intention was not to spam the group, he only thought it would be nice  
to provide something relevant to a current event written in English  
for the learners' practice.

That being the case, I have reinstalled him as a member to this group,  
so please welcome him back with me. I'm sure he can contribute to this  
group.

Welcome back, Huseyin.

Jack

On May 2, 2009, at 11:49 PM, Natasha The Bear wrote:

>
>
> Too bad he is gone. I always enjoy a good fight.
>
> --- On Fri, 5/1/09, Jack Waller <jackwaller <at> mac.com> wrote:
>
> From: Jack Waller <jackwaller <at> mac.com>
> Subject: Re: [EngFor] Spam
> To: EngFor <at> yahoogroups.com
> Date: Friday, May 1, 2009, 5:15 PM
>
> Just FYI, I banned Mr. Huseyin to keep him from sending any more spam.
> Jack
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Natasha The Bear | 4 May 2009 03:33
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Re: Spam

By all means, welcome back.

--- On Sun, 5/3/09, Jack Waller <jackwaller <at> mac.com> wrote:

From: Jack Waller <jackwaller <at> mac.com>
Subject: Re: [EngFor] Spam
To: EngFor <at> yahoogroups.com
Date: Sunday, May 3, 2009, 5:16 PM

Here's an update:

Huseyin wrote me a nice letter apologizing and explaining that his 
intention was not to spam the group, he only thought it would be nice 
to provide something relevant to a current event written in English 
for the learners' practice.

That being the case, I have reinstalled him as a member to this group, 
so please welcome him back with me. I'm sure he can contribute to this 
group.

Welcome back, Huseyin.

Jack

On May 2, 2009, at 11:49 PM, Natasha The Bear wrote:

>
>
> Too bad he is gone. I always enjoy a good fight.
>
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Ann English | 4 May 2009 06:30
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Welcome back, Huseyin


I am pleased that our trouble is over.  It is good to have Huseyin  
still with us.

Ann
www.lulu.com/AnnEnglish

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