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Suwannee T. | 1 Aug 2008 04:30
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Re: singular/plural

Dear Bill,
       Your explanation is very good. it's clear. I like it.

Thanks

English Learner

Suwannee T.(Nhu-Nee)

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From: Bill Kelly <bkelly <at> snet.net>
Subject: Re: [EngFor] singular/plural
To: EngFor <at> yahoogroups.com
Date: Thursday, July 31, 2008, 10:56 PM

The sentence is not correct, either with "this " or with "theses
are."

Perhaps what you mean is:

In the field of services, building industry, transport,
real estate services and agencies, education, and hotels and restaurants
play a significant role.

Notice the structure: In X, A, B, and C play a role.

There is an "and" before the final item (C). Since your final item is

the compound <hotels and restaurants>, your sentence will have two
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Suwannee T. | 1 Aug 2008 04:47
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Dear Native speaker, 
 
         Below is my free writing. Please give me in advance with suggestion.
Thank you
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The more you exercise, the stronger you are.
 
I just had realized that I did not strong and easily tired in the accident at the airport 5 months ago. It
happened when I traveled with my friend to go to Pai, which located in the north of Thailand. We planed to
reach out the airport before checked-in 30 minute but we were late. So, we had to run as fast as we could in our
life in order to catch the plane.  We were very so tired at that time.
 
After that day, I thought I should exercise to make me strong and healthy. I have started with jogging, or
cycling once a week. I feel good when I do it. Exercise requires high discipline. Many time, when I was lazy,
I always thought that I had no time. I had many things to do. However, I would perceive how long I did not
exercise, so I came back. I intend to keep the exercise usually for strength, good health and good looking.
 

Suwannee T.(Nhu-Nee)

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EngFor | 1 Aug 2008 09:35
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Bill Kelly | 1 Aug 2008 13:22

Re: Exercise

My comments below.

Bill Kelly
Connecticut USA

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Suwannee T. wrote:
> 
> 
> Dear Native speaker,
>  
>          Below is my free writing. Please give me in advance with 
> suggestion.
> Thank you

Why do you say "in advance"? I think you mean: "Please reply with any 
suggestions."

> ----------------------------------------------------------
> The more you exercise, the stronger you are.
The more you exercise, the stronger you become.

> I just had realized that I did not strong and easily tired in the 
> accident at the airport 5 months ago. 

I've just realized that I was not strong and tired easily in the 
incident at the airport 5 months ago.

> It happened when I traveled with
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Bill Kelly | 1 Aug 2008 13:27

Thai Curry

Hi Suwannee T.(Nhu-Nee):

Are you from Thailand? Do you live in Bangkok?

I like to cook food in the Thai style. I make my own curry pastes (red 
and green) from ingredients that I buy in the Asian market near my house.

What brand of fish sauce do you like best? I use a Vietnamese fish sauce.

Bill Kelly
Connecticut USA

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Haliman | 1 Aug 2008 14:24
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Re: Re: Exercise

Dear Bill,

In your answer:
 > However, I would perceive how long I did not exercise, so I came back

Now, however, I realize how long it's been since I've exercised. It's
time I started again.

did you mean:

Now, however, I realize how long it's been since I've exercised.  It's 
time I start   IT  again.  ?

Regards,
Haliman, an English learner.

Bill Kelly wrote:

> My comments below.
>
> Bill Kelly
> Connecticut USA
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> --
>
> Suwannee T. wrote:
> >
> >
> > Dear Native speaker,
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Cynthia VanSlogteren | 1 Aug 2008 16:28
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Re: Exercise

Hi Suwannee,

Good job!

One more sentence needs work. It's in your opening:
 >Please give me in advance with suggestion.

Here are some better sentences:

Please tell me how I can improve it. Thanks in advance.
Please help me out by making suggestions.
I'd appreciate any suggestions you might have.
Thanks in advance for your suggestions.
Please correct it for me.

Your friend,
Cynthia
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On Jul 31, 2008, at 7:47 PM, Suwannee T. wrote:

> Dear Native speaker,
>
>          Below is my free writing. Please give me in advance with  
> suggestion.
> Thank you
> ----------------------------------------------------------
> The more you exercise, the stronger you are.
>
> I just had realized that I did not strong and easily tired in the
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Tero Pesonen | 1 Aug 2008 18:22
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Re: Re: Exercise

On Friday 01 August 2008, Haliman wrote:
> Dear Bill,
>
> In your answer:
>  > However, I would perceive how long I did not exercise, so I came
>  > back
>
> Now, however, I realize how long it's been since I've exercised. It's
> time I started again.
>
> did you mean:
>
> Now, however, I realize how long it's been since I've exercised. 
> It's time I start   IT  again.  ?

Sorry to butt in -- I hope you don't mind. I think Bill was using the 
subjunctive verb form there. Is this correct? 

I have a feeling "start (it) again" (which is also in the subjunctive) 
would be favoured in case the "that" word were not omitted. "It is time 
that I start again." This would also sound more formal. 

It's time I started again = It is time I should start again = It is now 
(high) time for me to start (exercising) again = It is time that I 
start exercising again. 

"It is time I should start..." sounds very British to me. Bill's version 
is perhaps more common in American English.

I'm sure Bill and others can tell more about this and correct me
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Elly Tjan | 1 Aug 2008 19:47
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Re: Thai Curry

Hi Billy,
You are suppose a good cook for Thai cuisine, I will learn it from you.  I have fish sauce, but I don't
know how to cook Thai food.  If you don't mind, could you post the recipe ?  I will try to make, and
appreciate it for your kindness. 
Regards,
Elly T.  

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Hi Suwannee T.(Nhu-Nee):

I like to cook food in the Thai style. I make my own curry pastes (red 
and green) from ingredients that I buy in the Asian market near my house.

What brand of fish sauce do you like best? I use a Vietnamese fish sauce.

Bill Kelly
Connecticut USA

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Bill Kelly | 1 Aug 2008 20:24

Re: Re: Exercise

No, I don't mind your butting in. This is a public forum and it's good 
when lots of people join the discussion.

In testing sentences to see whether the subjunctive is being used, try 
making up some examples using the third person singular and the verb "to 
be."

1. I suggest we leave immediately.
2. I suggest he leave immediately.

In 1 it may not be obvious that "leave" is in the subjunctive, since the 
form "leave" would also be used in the indicative. But in 2 it is clear 
that a subjunctive is being used, for otherwise the correct form would 
be "leaves."

The difference is even more graphic if you use the verb "to be":

3. I suggest that he be our leader.
4. I know that he is our leader.

Now consider the following:

5a. It's time that he exercises more.
6a. It's time that he exercise more.
7a. It's time that he exercised more.

5b. It's time that he is chairman
6b. It's time that he be chairman.
7b. It's time that he were chairman.
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