Patrick Rourke | 1 Nov 03:28 2008

Re: British witches to be pardoned?

On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 5:09 PM, Terrence Lockyer > Gene O'Grady wrote:
>
> : Not meaning to be tendentious, but
> : what I said was "convicted," in other
> : words tried under some sort of legal
> : system comparable to what they have
> : the UK.

<lockyert <at> mweb.co.za> wrote:

> This was not a reply to my post, but it reminds me that
> I should also have made it more clear that my comments
> on local phenomena were not intended as a reply to
> GO'G's earlier, but rather as evidence that notions of
> witchcraft remain very much alive in some places.  I
> think GO'G is right that witchcraft has largely ceased
> to be an offence in modern legal systems . . .

Does Alaska count?

I know, I know, no politics . . .

PTR

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Patrick Rourke
ptrourke [(at)] methymna.com

Ricky Torrey | 1 Nov 04:17 2008
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Re: British witches to be pardoned?

On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 8:28 PM, Patrick Rourke <ptrourke <at> methymna.com> wrote:
> Does Alaska count?
>
> I know, I know, no politics . . .
>

Do Greek coins with Hercules-Obama count?

see:
http://tinyurl.com/6p9jw2

RT

Rosivach, Vincent | 1 Nov 04:45 2008

Re: British witches to be pardoned?

Isn't that Alexander?

Vince

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From: Classical Greek and Latin Discussion Group on behalf of Ricky Torrey
Sent: Fri 2008-10-31 23:17
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Subject: Re: British witches to be pardoned?

On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 8:28 PM, Patrick Rourke <ptrourke <at> methymna.com> wrote:
> Does Alaska count?
>
> I know, I know, no politics . . .
>

Do Greek coins with Hercules-Obama count?

see:
http://tinyurl.com/6p9jw2

RT

John M. McMahon | 1 Nov 15:09 2008

Earthquake effects on Acropolis measured

AP /Yahoo 11/01/08:

"Scientists to measure quake effect on Acropolis"

"For thousands of years the Acropolis has withstood earthquakes, weathered
storms and endured temperature extremes, from scorching summers to winter
snow. Now scientists are drawing on the latest technology to install a
system that will record just how much nature is affecting the 2,500-year-old
site. They hope their findings will help identify areas that could be
vulnerable, allowing them to target restoration and maintenance.

Scientists are installing a network of fiber optic sensors and
accelerographs ‹ instruments that measure how much movement is generated
during a quake.

'The greatest danger for our monuments at the moment is earthquakes,'
Dimitrios Egglezos, chief civil engineer in charge of the Acropolis'
defensive circuit wall, told The Associated Press. So understanding how the
structures react to the earth's movement is paramount."

More ... and a sidebar slide show:

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20081101/ap_on_sc/eu_greece_acropolis_earthquakes

JMM / LMC

Terrence Lockyer | 1 Nov 16:12 2008
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Re: British witches to be pardoned?

Vince Rosivach asks

: Isn't that Alexander?

Of course, Herakles-Hercules IS pretty important in
royal and imperial symbolism from at least the
Hellenistic period:  see, e. g.,

 - Olga Palagia, 'Imitation of Herakles in Ruler
Portraiture:  A Survey, from Alexander to Maximinus
Daza', Boreas 9 (1986) 137-51, Tafel 23

And, by the way, since we've been linking videos a bit 
of late, I should perhaps mention a problem esp. with 
YouTube of which some may not be aware:  since they 
started trying to get music and TV companies to see the 
site as a marketing opportunity, rather than a venue 
for large-scale copyright infringement, and esp. since 
the Google takeover, there has been a rapid increase in 
the use of country (really IP-address) restrictions of 
the kind already well-known from Google Books, etc. - 
if you are accessing the site from a US IP address, and 
to a lesser extent from some of the others that have 
their own YouTube "regions", like the UK, you will be 
able to see a lot of content that a lot of people in a 
lot of places will not be able to.  The facility to 
block content based on IP address is sometimes used due 
to local laws (e. g., German restrictions on Nazi 
symbols, etc.), but far more often apparently it is 
made available to the official "channels" of record and 
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J. L. Speranza | 1 Nov 13:26 2008
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Re: La Parodia Parodiata

Well, I guess if i _were_ doing a serious study  of "You are old, Father 
William", I *would* have realised that it is indeed  Southey, but thanks for the 
correction, M. Davidson.

I failed to find  further reference to J. Samaras's cited parody (by A. 
Garnder) on L. Carroll's  parody on Isaac Watts? "He does it to Hannoi", I 
understand, but a exact quote  search in Google only provides _one_ hit. It's a good 
parody,  though.

Finally, I wouldn't say the Aeneis is a _burlesque_ on _Ilias_  but I get T. 
Lockyer's point. Indeed, I was appalled by the OED's easiness to  turn 
'parodikos' as _burlesque_. In the days of Judy Garland, that was such a  bad bad bad 
word. It never caught up in England, I think, where they called it  
_vaudeville_ or _revue_. Or is it the other way round?

I think the  reference "influence of T. S. Eliot on Shakespeare" originally 
comes from  "Eating people is wrong" by the late Malcolm Bradbury. I met him 
once at a book  fair, and actually managed to make him a member of the J. L. 
Borges  International Society! In any case, when I asked him about that novel -- 
and he  inscribed my copy -- he merely wrote, "a youthful piece". 

What I would  like to expand, since J. Gibson has not told us whether he 
found info on an  'online discussion' (I first read that to mean an online chat -- 
and I thought  to myself -- usually I thought to myself -- who is going to be 
such a bore to  engage in a chatroom to discuss the characteristics of 'greco 
roman' (sic)  parody??) is this and that.

The OED cites a book by the Australian-born  philologist Murray (I note 
"Australian-born" because the OED needs to make a  point that colonials are 
lexically more creative than the upper-lip habitants of  their blessed isle), on 
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Mariano Paniello | 1 Nov 16:55 2008
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Re: British witches to be pardoned?

Why do you include a link to a neo-nazi website (look at natvan.com's home page) to support the contention
that people are still executed for witchcraft and that slavery still exists? Surely there are more
reputable sources once can turn to other than one which sports a banner ad touting a book with the hilarious
title Bolshevism from Moses to Lenin, and whose lead article is entitled The Jewish Assault on White
American Values?

MP

> -----Original Message-----
> From: Classical Greek and Latin Discussion Group
> [mailto:CLASSICS-L <at> LSV.UKY.EDU] On Behalf Of Bradley Skene
> Sent: Friday, October 31, 2008 10:17 AM
> To: CLASSICS-L <at> LSV.UKY.EDU
> Subject: Re: [CLASSICS-L] British witches to be pardoned?
> 
> You really don't know that thousands have been burned as witches in the
> twentieth century, and many no doubt in this century? Do you think there are
> no slaves left in the world either?
> http://www.natvan.com/national-vanguard/114/necklace.html
> 
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2FuLVfStT3E
> 
> 
> 
> 
> On Fri, Oct 31, 2008 at 11:50 AM, Gene O'Grady <genem5 <at> comcast.net> wrote:
> 
> > It might be more to the point to pardon Helen Duncan, convicted of
> > witchcraft in 1944 to help keep the Normandy landings secret.
> >
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Bradley Skene | 1 Nov 17:04 2008
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Re: British witches to be pardoned?

Was it? I did notice. It was the first link that came up on a google search
for witch+necklace. I wouldn;t thought such a site woudl receive such a high
rank.

On Sat, Nov 1, 2008 at 10:55 AM, Mariano Paniello
<dolorespark <at> hotmail.com>wrote:

> Why do you include a link to a neo-nazi website (look at natvan.com's home
> page) to support the contention that people are still executed for
> witchcraft and that slavery still exists? Surely there are more reputable
> sources once can turn to other than one which sports a banner ad touting a
> book with the hilarious title Bolshevism from Moses to Lenin, and whose lead
> article is entitled The Jewish Assault on White American Values?
>
> MP
>
>
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: Classical Greek and Latin Discussion Group
> > [mailto:CLASSICS-L <at> LSV.UKY.EDU] On Behalf Of Bradley Skene
> > Sent: Friday, October 31, 2008 10:17 AM
> > To: CLASSICS-L <at> LSV.UKY.EDU
> > Subject: Re: [CLASSICS-L] British witches to be pardoned?
> >
> > You really don't know that thousands have been burned as witches in the
> > twentieth century, and many no doubt in this century? Do you think there
> are
> > no slaves left in the world either?
> > http://www.natvan.com/national-vanguard/114/necklace.html
> >
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June Samaras | 1 Nov 17:54 2008
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Scientists to measure quake effect on Acropolis

    * Scientists to measure quake effect on Acropolis
      FOXNews - Oct 31, 2008

http://ap.google.com/article/ALeqM5iokZ8Sd3sACnxEjAc8jLaDKicCuAD945GD9G0

By ELENA BECATOROS – 1 day ago

ATHENS, Greece (AP) — For thousands of years the Acropolis has
withstood earthquakes, weathered storms and endured temperature
extremes, from scorching summers to winter snow.

Now scientists are drawing on the latest technology to install a
system that will record just how much nature is affecting the
2,500-year-old site. They hope their findings will help identify areas
that could be vulnerable, allowing them to target restoration and
maintenance.

Scientists are installing a network of fiber optic sensors and
accelerographs — instruments that measure how much movement is
generated during a quake.

"The greatest danger for our monuments at the moment is earthquakes,"
Dimitrios Egglezos, chief civil engineer in charge of the Acropolis'
defensive circuit wall, told The Associated Press. So understanding
how the structures react to the earth's movement is paramount.

Egglezos said six accelerographs are to be installed starting next
week at various parts of the Acropolis: at the base of the hill, part
of the way up where the geology changes, and on the Parthenon, the
Acropolis' most famous monument, built between 447 and 432 B.C. in
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Mariano Paniello | 1 Nov 18:51 2008
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Re: British witches to be pardoned?

It is a scary thought. Still, had I seen a title like Bolshevism from Moses to Lenin without context, I would
have thought it came from a Woody Allen monologue!

MP

> Date: Sat, 1 Nov 2008 11:04:33 -0500
> From: anebo10 <at> GMAIL.COM
> Subject: Re: [CLASSICS-L] British witches to be pardoned?
> To: CLASSICS-L <at> LSV.UKY.EDU
> 
> Was it? I did notice. It was the first link that came up on a google search
> for witch+necklace. I wouldn;t thought such a site woudl receive such a high
> rank.
> 
> On Sat, Nov 1, 2008 at 10:55 AM, Mariano Paniello
> <dolorespark <at> hotmail.com>wrote:
> 
> > Why do you include a link to a neo-nazi website (look at natvan.com's home
> > page) to support the contention that people are still executed for
> > witchcraft and that slavery still exists? Surely there are more reputable
> > sources once can turn to other than one which sports a banner ad touting a
> > book with the hilarious title Bolshevism from Moses to Lenin, and whose lead
> > article is entitled The Jewish Assault on White American Values?
> >
> > MP
> >
> >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: Classical Greek and Latin Discussion Group
> > > [mailto:CLASSICS-L <at> LSV.UKY.EDU] On Behalf Of Bradley Skene
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