DANIEL P. Tompkins | 7 Jul 18:33 2015

Brad DeLong: Aetolian League and the Eurozone

[I'm copying some additional friends on this, with apologies to all for its
length.  But folks can choose what to read and what not.  Boldfaces are

Brad DeLong served in the Department of the Treasury in 1990s, and now
teaches economics at Berkeley, and blogs.  Smart guy, with an interest in
economic history.  Importantly, he was at work, and at times on hand,
during the writing of the Maastricht Treaty
<https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Maastricht_Treaty> "undertaken to integrate
Europe" in 1992.

Yesterday he resurrected a 2013 essay
he'd written on the Eurozone, which found parallels in, inter alia, 17th
century Netherlands, the Federalist Papers, and ... the Aetolian League:

The Aetolian League actually worked [!]. It was remarkably stable. It had
an executive. Its executive had powers and made decisions. It could command
rather than request from its city-state members–and its commands were
obeyed. But the Aetolian League was impossible to imagine without Macedon
to the north. A hostile great power on its borders was essential to induce
the surrenders of sovereignty needed for the Aetolian League to function.

The Federalists' Macedon, still threatening when the wrote, was Britain;
the European Union's, and particularly Germany's
was the USSR.

DeLong has a bit more to say about the Aetolian League (actually, Madison
is fairly brief about it in Federalist 18
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Diana Wright | 7 Jul 02:12 2015



Not your usual Aphrodite.


Jean Alvares | 6 Jul 23:23 2015

Montclair State University -- Instructors needed for Mythology, General Humanities.

The Department of Classics and General Humanities at Montclair State 
University is in the process of staffing various course sections for 
Fall 2015, which runs from 1 September to 13 May We are looking 
especially for part-time instructors for Mythology, as well as our two 
Humanities Survey courses.

An instructor must have at least an M.A. or its equivalent. Salary 
starts at roughly $3,600 dollars per course. Possession of a PhD will 
also factor in. Most daytime classes meet two days a week, most evening 
courses meet only one day a week. We have employed quite a few graduate 
students successfully in the past and they are encouraged to apply. MSU 
uses the CANVAS learning management system. Here are the course sections 
which, at this moment, are uncovered.

General Humanities I (Western Humanites Survey course to 1400 CE. )

GNHU 201-5MTR0100-0215PM

GNHU 201-8MTR0230-0345PM

General Humanities II (Western Humanites Survey course, 1400 CE to now)

GNHU 202-2MTR1000-1115AM

GNHU 202-5MTR1130-1245PM

Mythology (Classical)

GNHU 285-05F0830-1115AM

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DANIEL P. Tompkins | 6 Jul 00:25 2015

Re: Ελέξοδος and Macron

This is the latest I've seen from Macron, from an Athenian friend with the
subject line "Εξαιρετικές δηλώσεις-Grèce : Macron met en garde contre un
'traité de Versailles' " (below).

I have a parlor game going on with my Greek friends, based on the recent
reports that Putin may take advantage of the situation:  "Which will happen
first:  a) Russian carriers will pull up to Peiraeus; or b) German leaders
will understand Keynes."  None of my correspondents is betting on b).
Hence, austerity and no-growth all around.

But, no 1919 Versailles
say the French.  How many debates have they won with the Germans lately?
(By "the Germans" I mean the leadership.  Three of my German friends have
been in touch this week: one says he'll no longer read Frankfurter
Allgemeiner, which is extra-harsh on Greece; another reminds me of the poet
Heiner Müller's remark that the real winner in WWII was "die
Bundesrepublik [also Westdeutschland]"; the third mentioning the farce of

... the then director of the Gymnasium, the  Latinist Hans Oppermann. He
was a terrible Nazi and racist, there is an interesting paper on him by
Jürgen Malitz, you find it online. And, having lost his post as professor
at Strasburg University, he could become the director of one of the most
prestigious Gymnasium in Germany, the Johanneum.

I find all these guys more congenial than Wolfgang Schäuble, finance

Heiner Müller did some very good adaptations of classical drama, etc.
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Ralph Hancock | 5 Jul 21:28 2015


Is there a Greek word corresponding to 'Grexit'? I can't find one.

The English-language Wikipedia articles on 'Greek withdrawal from the
eurozone' and 'Withdrawal from the European Union' have versions in other
languages but not in Greek. This seems odd.


Janice Siegel | 5 Jul 21:07 2015

Calvin in Latin

Does anyone know where I can find the Latin preface to John Calvin's 1536
version of *Dedication of the Institutes of the Christian Religion?*
Thanks. Janice

Janice Siegel
Hampden-Sydney College
Associate Professor of Classics
Dr. J's Illustrated Guide to the Classical World:

Arthur Eckstein | 5 Jul 15:03 2015

Re: another ancient paradigm to current Greek politics

There is a better ancient parallel than the Melian Dialogue to what's happening in Greece.

For fifty years, the Roman Republic both supported and criticized Achaean absorption of Sparta into the
Achaean League;  this had occurred by force in 190-188 B.C. during the Romans' war against Antiochus III
and the Seleucid Empire, when
the Achaeans were Roman allies.  Indeed, they had a formal treaty of alliance with Rome.

Over time the Romans, faced with Spartan complaints about Achaean oppression, became more and more
insistent on the Achaeans treating Sparta more moderately as they saw it.  Many Achaean politicians
wanted to maintain Achaean independence
of Rome as much as possible, but some argued that in the end it would be best--after resistance according to
the terms of the treaty--to give in.  Polybius viewed the varied opinions within these people as all
honorable.  But over time as well, there developed a strain of Achaean
politicians who argued that it was best to do whatever the Romans said, given the power imbalance.  The most
obvious case is Callicrates, who was a real Quisling, first appearaing in 180 B.C. and using overt Roman
interference in Achaean internal politics to gain
political power for himself by openly proclaiming his desire to do whatever the Romans wanted, and to do so
immediately.  The Roman Senate supported him with letters of recommendation.  But as is clear from
Polybius' narrataive, the rise of the Quislings like Callicrates 
eventually  after about 20 years led to a blowback:  the rise of extreme protonationalist politicians who
would take no Roman guff at all.  Read: Syriza.  

Eventually the Romans wanted one too many reforms about Sparta, and even said the Achaeans should let
Sparta go (149-147 B.C.).  The Syriza type politicians--Diaeus and Critolaus, whom Polybius condemns as
thoughtless demagogues--refused Roman policy on
Sparta, declared war on Sparta instead, and soon were at war with Rome.  The Achaean League lost the war,
Corinth--its largest city-- was destroyed by Roman troops, and the League itself partly dismantled by
Rome.  Polybius--ever the realist
in foreign relations--thought it all madness.

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DANIEL P. Tompkins | 5 Jul 05:33 2015

APOLOGY 9Re: Whole Foods overprising: "Nothing prepackaged was safe"0

Thanks, Steven!

First, I apologize: I meant to send this to college *class*mates and fouled
up the address.

Second: others will judge the last third of the piece.  I took the last
sentence ("Because at Whole Foods, *values matter") *as bitterly ironic.

Third, thanks for the note about Greece.  Once the topic was introduced, it
seemed worthwhile to begin to explore the underlying economic and political
issues issues, for sure.



On Sat, Jul 4, 2015 at 11:22 PM, Steven Schuster <
realityschuster <at> comcast.net> wrote:

> Strange that the last third of the Slate article was an apologia
> (classical content?).
>         While I'm emailing, I'd like to thank all the Greek economic
> (political?) emailers.  Against my will and desire, I now understand much
> more of the complex issues involved.   Tears on my pillow!
> Steven
> On Jul 4, 2015, at 8:02 PM, DANIEL P. Tompkins <pericles <at> TEMPLE.EDU>
> wrote:
> > Whole Foods is a delightful store in many ways.  Which makes the news
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DANIEL P. Tompkins | 5 Jul 05:02 2015

Whole Foods overprising: "Nothing prepackaged was safe"

Whole Foods is a delightful store in many ways.  Which makes the news that
it's been *systematically *bilking customers particularly disturbing.
Here's a recent follow-up <http://www.slate.com/blogs/moneybox.html> on the
news stories.

Add to these the fact that the CEO engaged in what seems like fraudulent
practices on the internet (anonymous posts that may have driven down the
price of an acquisition target) <http://Wild Oats, a company Mr. Mackey
derided in his posts.>, and the company seems like a particularly skilled
gang of grifters.

Which is too bad.  I occasionally shop there and like some of what I see.
But stories like this really make one shake one's head.  (Partly because
the violations were *so obvious*).



Diana Wright | 5 Jul 04:24 2015

Interjecting some classics here


I'm sure we have all seen this a dozen times, but another one won't hurt.


Lisa Maurice | 4 Jul 22:35 2015

Call for Papers 2016: Israel Society for the Promotion of Classical Studies

*Call for Papers*

The *Israel Society for the Promotion of Classical Studies* is pleased to
announce its 45th annual conference to be held at Bar-Ilan University on
Wed-Thurs, *1-2 June 2016*.

Our keynote speaker in 2016 will be Professor Tonio Hö*l*scher, Heidelberg.

The conference is the annual meeting of the Israel Society for the
Promotion of Classical Studies. Papers on a wide range
of classical subjects, including but not limited to history, philology,
philosophy, literature and archaeology of Greece and Rome and neighboring
lands, are welcome. The time limit for each lecture is 20 minutes. The
official languages of the conference are Hebrew and English. The conference
fee is $50.

Accommodation at reduced prices will be available at local hotels.

Registration forms with a list of prices will be sent to participants in
due course.

Proposals, abstracts and other correspondence may be forwarded to Dr. Lisa
Maurice, Secretary of the ISPCS:

email: lisa.maurice <at> biu.ac.il

All proposals should be accompanied by a one page abstract (about 250-300
words). Proposals in Hebrew should also be accompanied by a one-page
abstract in English to appear in the conference brochure.

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