Judith Hallett | 30 May 21:51 2016

Re: translating 'fututiones' in Catullus 32

  Sorry I did not post this before now.
Many thanks
Judy Hallett

> http://www.the-tls.co.uk/articles/public/so-how-do-you-translate-fututiones/
> I'm writing to draw your attention to the link above posted in the 
> Classics-L by Diana Wright in the thread "Re: An actual classics 
> topic" on Thu, 12 May 2016.
> The article mentions the phrase "nine straight fucks" a number of 
> times, and it is attributed to Celia and Louis Zukofsky's translation 
> of Catullus 32.
> Actually, that phrase is to be found in my translation of poem 32, not 
> theirs.  Would you please post this fact to that same thread in the 
> Classics-List?
> And if you would, please also post the audio link below, a sampling 
> from a reading of Catullus I gave at Wesleyan back in May 1973, 
> introduced by David Konstan,
> http://www.demosnews.com/piece.php?115.1
> a 15 minute audio which happens to include my version of Catullus 32.
> I am not a member of the list.
> With many thanks, and best regards,
> Carl Sesar
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DANIEL P. Tompkins | 30 May 18:17 2016

Fwd: [EMF-L] Fwd: Workshop: “Church Building in Cy prus (4th to 7th Centuries)

This looks like a worthwhile conference.  Seeing Kanakaria in '72, with
mosaics untouched by the Iconoclasts, though soon to be looted, was
thrilling.  (see Mark Rose's report, *Archaeology* 1998).


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Workshop: “Church Building in Cyprus (4th to 7th Centuries) – a Mirror of
Intercultural Contacts in the Eastern Mediterranean”
Location: Römisch-Germanisches Zentralmuseum, Mainz (Germany); 9–11 June
Thursday, 9 June, 3:00 – 7:15
3:00 – 3:30     Introduction:
Marietta Horster, Sabine Rogge, Doria Nicolaou
Panel “Christian Communities and Church-Building, 4th-7th Centuries”:
3:30 – 4:15 Eleni Prokopiou: “New Evidence for the Early Byzantine
Ecclesiastical Architecture in Cyprus”
4:15 – 5:00 Stefanos Efthymiadis: “The Cult of Saints in Early Byzantine
Cyprus as Mirrored in Church Building and Epigraphy”
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DANIEL P. Tompkins | 30 May 12:24 2016

More on Praeteritio and ἀπόφασις, still in play

A colleague pointed me to Christopher Blackwell's interesting article
<http://www.stoa.org/projects/demos/apophasis.pdf> on *apophasis *(the 4th
century public "investigation" or "inventory" at the useful Stoa site; see
also here
and Dinarchus 1.1).  This merits mention on the Classics list partly
because it gets us into Athenian democratic procedure, but also because
it's an example of the two possible meanings of words ending in -φασις.  Is
the root "say" or "show," φημί or φαίνω?  There are two different Greek
words, both spelled the same.

It looks to me as if the rhetorical technique Trump uses is ἀπόφασις A
("denial) while Dinarchus et al refer to ἀπόφασις B ("inventory").

There's possible similar ambiguity with πρόφασις at Thuc. 1.23.6.  Possibly
useful in classes.




On Sun, May 29, 2016 at 4:59 PM, DANIEL P. Tompkins <pericles <at> temple.edu>

> Whether it's praeteritio
> <http://grammar.about.com/od/pq/g/Praeteritio-Preteritio.htm> (also here
> <http://www.slate.com/articles/video/video/2015/12/donald_trump_s_preferred_rhetorical_tactic_is_called_praeteritio_is_also.html>)
> or ἀπόφασις
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DANIEL P. Tompkins | 30 May 11:09 2016

Fed report: most Americans more confident about job prospects; education counts

Here's last week's report
<http://www.federalreserve.gov/newsevents/press/other/20160525a.htm> from
the Federal Reserve Board on American families' finances.  Short and
useful.  "Seventy-seven percent of non-retired adults without a disability
are confident that they have the skills necessary to get the kind of job
that they want now--an increase of 10 percentage points from the 2013
survey results."

One point: college graduates have serious debt, but are also far better
situated job-wise than non-graduates.

It's the children of the less well off who gravitate toward for-profit
colleges that so often serve them ill.  "Forty-nine percent of adults who
attended a for-profit institution report that if they could make their
educational decisions again they would have attended a different school."


DANIEL P. Tompkins | 30 May 10:17 2016

CUNY financial problems

This is a great public university.  Nine CUNY graduates, children of
seamstresses and seltzer men, graduated from it in the Depression &
became Nobelists.  CUNY's Mina Shaughnessy changed the way many of us
teach writing, treating every essay like a John Donne poem.

Lacking the typical Ivy endowment of $1-$2 million per student, it
requires public funds, and that's the problem, as it is for UCal, Iowa
State, and a thousand other places, all struggling.

I hope legislators wake up to this: these schools produce human
capital the nation needs.



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DANIEL P. Tompkins | 29 May 22:59 2016

Praeteritio and ἀπόφασις, still in play

Whether it's praeteritio
<http://grammar.about.com/od/pq/g/Praeteritio-Preteritio.htm> (also here
or ἀπόφασις
<http://www.motherjones.com/kevin-drum/2016/05/word-day-apophasis>, it's
getting noticed.

Actually, on checking, I think Kevin Drum is  pulling our legs, quite
cleverly, with the definition above for *apophasis*.  All I find in the
online OED (even my univ library's version) is this,
<http://www.oed.com.libproxy.temple.edu/view/Entry/9350?> nothing about
today's politics.  (I searched for this both in the original Greek and in
transliteration, and elsewhere -- though I've perhaps missed something.)

But, worth noticing.  It's still in practice.

About 40 years ago, some guy wrote a book about bars in Philadelphia.
Opening Linnaean <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Linnaean_taxonomy>
statement: there are two kinds of bars: those where you'll get beaten up if
you enter with a book, and those where you won't.  Same prudential
principle here: be *very* careful where you mention *praeteritio *or

Meet me in a bar at APA and I'll tell you about a friend's disastrous
assignment, escorting Christopher Hitchens in search of "real working
class" Philly bars.  Chris's girlfriend of the moment wore leather, and
cheered TV football at the wrong moments.

Dan Tompkins

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Diana Wright | 29 May 18:49 2016

Remembering Yourcenar's Hadrian



david meadows | 27 May 17:59 2016

aristotle tomb thing

In case you need to be brought up to speed:


Lisa Maurice | 27 May 15:23 2016

CFP: Conference: Prometheus, Pandora, Adam and Eve: Archetypes of the Masculine and Feminine and their Reception throughout the Ages


*CFP: Conference: Prometheus, Pandora, Adam and Eve: Archetypes of the
Masculine and Feminine and their Reception throughout the Ages*

*Bar-Ilan University, Israel*

*20-22 March 2017*

*Keynote Speakers: Professor Simon Goldhill, University of Cambridge*
                           Professor Catherine Conybeare, Bryn Mawr College

We are happy to give notice of a conference that will take place as the
first project of a collaborative research group that has been set up at
Bar-Ilan University in Israel.  This group aims to examine the joint
Classical and Judeo-Christian foundations of Western civilization, and
their reception.  Both strands have contributed to western societies in
areas as diverse as art, philosophy, politics and architecture, and in many
cases, the two strands intertwine and play off against each other.  Yet
very little sustained research to date has incorporated experts from a wide
range of different fields, including, but not limited to, scholars of
Jewish studies; Christianity; Classical studies; European literature,
history and art; politics; philosophy.  This is despite the fact that such
collaboration would undoubtedly lead to greater understanding.  The
intention of this research group is therefore to provide enlightenment in a
way that individual researchers, in their own closed specialisations, could

Within this framework and theoretical understanding, this conference will
focus on “Prometheus, Pandora, Adam and Eve: archetypes of the masculine
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Patrick T. Rourke | 26 May 23:57 2016

Fwd: Greek Drama V

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> From: "Marshall, C. W." <toph.marshall <at> UBC.CA>
> Date: May 26, 2016 at 1:33:46 PM EDT
> Subject: Greek Drama V
> Reply-To: camp-dionysiac <CAMP-DIONYSIAC <at> LISTS.UBC.CA>
> Greek Drama V
> University of British Columbia
> July 5-8, 2017
> This is a call for papers for Greek Drama V, a conference to be held at the University of British Columbia, in
Vancouver, Canada, from Wednesday 5 July to Saturday 8 July 2017. The conference is the fifth of the
periodic Pacific Rim Greek Drama conferences, after Sydney 1982, Christchurch 1992, Sydney 2002, and
Wellington 2007. The keynote address will be delivered by Prof. Eric Csapo, University of Sydney.
> As with the previous Greek Drama conferences, we seek to bring together scholars at all career stages,
providing an opportunity to establish new directions for the study of ancient theatre. We welcome
proposals for 20-minute papers on all aspects of Greek drama and performance.
> Abstracts of no longer than 300 words (exclusive of bibliography) should be submitted to
<greek.drama <at> ubc.ca>. The deadline for abstracts is August 31, 2016.
> Inquiries may be directed to the conference organizers, Hallie Marshall, Department of Theatre & Film
<hallie.marshall <at> ubc.ca>, and C. W. Marshall, Department of Classical, Near Eastern & Religious
Studies <toph.marshall <at> ubc.ca>.
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Janice Siegel | 26 May 17:57 2016

Fwd: The Atlantic: Was the Invention of Finance Responsible for Democracy?

Does anyone have any insight into this new book reviewed here in the
I'd like to know if I should send it off to non-classics colleagues or even
use some of it in a course I am teaching in the fall on global cultures but
lack the expertise to determine the validity of its arguments. TIA. Janice

*Was the Invention of Finance Responsible for Democracy?*
The Atlantic

The ancient city of Athens paid its citizens for various civic duties,
priming them into a mindset that paved the way to participatory
government. Read
the full story <https://apple.news/ALN0NK_hdTAOOuz2wA6SUyA>

Janice Siegel
Hampden-Sydney College
Associate Professor of Classics
Dr. J's Illustrated Guide to the Classical World: