Hans-Peter Radenberg | 10 Feb 08:20 2006
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[Serna] XSL-Sheets

Hello there,
 
I am using a stylesheet for our TEI-manuscript input where I make use of border lines to see the "input fields" more clearly. But when we print such I mansucript, we find the border lines disturbing.
 
Is there a way to assign different stylesheet to screen view and to printing?
 
Regards
 
Hans-Peter Radenberg
Hans-Peter Radenberg | 10 Feb 08:40 2006
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[Serna] DTD - XSD

Hello there,
 
In our manuscript files, I am using the line

<!DOCTYPE TEI.2 PUBLIC "-//TEI//DTD TEI Manuscript 1.0 //EN" "../../../teims.dtd" [

In addition, in the template I refer to "teims.xsd", which I need for the template and which is converted from teims.dtd and which is required for the template.

Does that mean that the document is vaidated twice, both agaist dtd and xsd? Is there a way to leave one out? If I delete the teims.dtd or give an unvalid path, Serna opens with an error.

Regards

Hans-Peter Radenberg

Hans-Peter Radenberg | 10 Feb 09:00 2006
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[Serna] XInclude

Hello there,
 
I am trying to follow the xinclude examples from zvon. The basic ones work fine, but coming to xpointer, Serna shows the big blue "<>" markers for the inclusion, but no text (I would expect "aaaa". What is wrong with it?
 
a.xml:

<a>
  <xi:include href="b.xml" 
  xpointer="p1" 
  parse="xml"
  xmlns:xi="http://www.w3.org/2001/XInclude"/>
</a>

 
b.xml:

<b>
  <p id="p1">aaaa</p> 
  <p id="p2">bbbb</p> 
</b>

I have noticed a similar problem with our TEIms files. Including an author list works fine, but as soon as I refer to a special author with xpointer, Serna does not seem to react. Maybe I'm missing some elementary point?

Regards

Hans-Peter Radenberg

Ilia Kuznetsov | 10 Feb 11:20 2006

Re: [Serna] DTD - XSD

Hans-Peter,

> In our manuscript files, I am using the line
>
> <!DOCTYPE TEI.2 PUBLIC "-//TEI//DTD TEI Manuscript 1.0 //EN"
> "../../../teims.dtd" [
>
> In addition, in the template I refer to "teims.xsd", which I need for
> the template and which is converted from teims.dtd and which is required
> for the template.
>
> Does that mean that the document is vaidated twice, both agaist dtd and
> xsd? Is there a way to leave one out? If I delete the teims.dtd or give
> an unvalid path, Serna opens with an error.

Serna validates only against XML Schema. The only reason why DTD is 
involved is because DTD sometimes defines additional external and internal 
entities. DTD is not used for validation in Serna.

Hence, in the case of TEI leave DTD in the document declarations.

Your other e-mails are to be answered later.

Regards,
Ilia Kuznetsov

cherdn | 13 Feb 15:22 2006

Re: [Serna] XInclude

Hello Hans-Peter,

Did you declare your 'id' attribute as 'ID' in the dtd or schema?
It's necessary when work with xpointer.

Regards,
Daria Chernova

On Fri, 10 Feb 2006, Hans-Peter Radenberg wrote:

> Hello there,
>
> I am trying to follow the xinclude examples from zvon. The basic ones
> work fine, but coming to xpointer, Serna shows the big blue "<>" markers
> for the inclusion, but no text (I would expect "aaaa". What is wrong
> with it?
>
> a.xml:
> <a>
>  <xi:include href="b.xml"
>  xpointer="p1"
>  parse="xml"
>  xmlns:xi="http://www.w3.org/2001/XInclude"/>
> </a>
>
>
> b.xml:
> <b>
>  <p id="p1">aaaa</p>
>  <p id="p2">bbbb</p>
> </b>
>
> I have noticed a similar problem with our TEIms files. Including an
> author list works fine, but as soon as I refer to a special author with
> xpointer, Serna does not seem to react. Maybe I'm missing some
> elementary point?
>
> Regards
>
> Hans-Peter Radenberg
>
>

cherdn | 15 Feb 17:54 2006

Re: [Serna] XSL-Sheets

Hello Hans-Peter,

How do you print?
Do you want to assign stylesheet for 'Print Draft' or publishing?

On Fri, 10 Feb 2006, Hans-Peter Radenberg wrote:

> Hello there,
>
> I am using a stylesheet for our TEI-manuscript input where I make use of
> border lines to see the "input fields" more clearly. But when we print
> such I mansucript, we find the border lines disturbing.
>
> Is there a way to assign different stylesheet to screen view and to
> printing?
>
> Regards
>
> Hans-Peter Radenberg
>

Regards,
Daria Chernova

Hans-Peter Radenberg | 15 Feb 18:25 2006
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AW: [Serna] XInclude

Hi Daria,

No I did not declare it. I went to www.zvon.org and started to copy the examples about xinclude and xpointer.
They did so far not mention anything about the dtd and the ID I have to declare, and so I expected them to work
with Serna. Is this something specific to Serna or something that applies to XInclude in general?

So could you tell me where I can find simple examples about xinclude which are really complete (nothing
about IDs and so on missing) and which in can repeat in Serna? 

Thanks in advance

Hans-Peter

________________________________

Von: cherdn@... [mailto:cherdn@...]
Gesendet: Mo 13.02.2006 15:22
An: Hans-Peter Radenberg
Cc: serna-users@...
Betreff: Re: [Serna] XInclude

Hello Hans-Peter,

Did you declare your 'id' attribute as 'ID' in the dtd or schema?
It's necessary when work with xpointer.

Regards,
Daria Chernova

On Fri, 10 Feb 2006, Hans-Peter Radenberg wrote:

> Hello there,
>
> I am trying to follow the xinclude examples from zvon. The basic ones
> work fine, but coming to xpointer, Serna shows the big blue "<>" markers
> for the inclusion, but no text (I would expect "aaaa". What is wrong
> with it?
>
> a.xml:
> <a>
>  <xi:include href="b.xml"
>  xpointer="p1"
>  parse="xml"
>  xmlns:xi="http://www.w3.org/2001/XInclude"/>
> </a>
>
>
> b.xml:
> <b>
>  <p id="p1">aaaa</p>
>  <p id="p2">bbbb</p>
> </b>
>
> I have noticed a similar problem with our TEIms files. Including an
> author list works fine, but as soon as I refer to a special author with
> xpointer, Serna does not seem to react. Maybe I'm missing some
> elementary point?
>
> Regards
>
> Hans-Peter Radenberg
>
>

Arturo Perez | 15 Feb 18:27 2006

[Serna] Bibliography support esp endnote?

Hi all,

Is there any direct support for EndNotes?  Any support for any 
bibliographic management systems?

I know one could do it oneself with the Python support but I'm wondering 
if it's already been done.  Thanks.

-arturo

Bob Stayton | 15 Feb 19:19 2006
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Re: [Serna] XInclude

That is a feature of XPointer, which is part of
XInclude, not Serna.

The DocBook DTD has id attributes declared as type id,
so they work with XInclude.  You can find examples of
using XInclude in DocBook here:

http://www.sagehill.net/docbookxsl/ModularDoc.html#UsingXinclude

Bob Stayton
Sagehill Enterprises
DocBook Consulting
bobs@...

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Hans-Peter Radenberg" <Radenberg@...>
To: <cherdn@...>
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Sent: Wednesday, February 15, 2006 9:25 AM
Subject: AW: [Serna] XInclude

Hi Daria,

No I did not declare it. I went to www.zvon.org and
started to copy the examples about xinclude and
xpointer. They did so far not mention anything about
the dtd and the ID I have to declare, and so I expected
them to work with Serna. Is this something specific to
Serna or something that applies to XInclude in general?

So could you tell me where I can find simple examples
about xinclude which are really complete (nothing about
IDs and so on missing) and which in can repeat in
Serna?

Thanks in advance

Hans-Peter

________________________________

Von: cherdn@... [mailto:cherdn@...]
Gesendet: Mo 13.02.2006 15:22
An: Hans-Peter Radenberg
Cc: serna-users@...
Betreff: Re: [Serna] XInclude

Hello Hans-Peter,

Did you declare your 'id' attribute as 'ID' in the dtd
or schema?
It's necessary when work with xpointer.

Regards,
Daria Chernova

On Fri, 10 Feb 2006, Hans-Peter Radenberg wrote:

> Hello there,
>
> I am trying to follow the xinclude examples from
zvon. The basic ones
> work fine, but coming to xpointer, Serna shows the
big blue "<>" markers
> for the inclusion, but no text (I would expect
"aaaa". What is wrong
> with it?
>
> a.xml:
> <a>
>  <xi:include href="b.xml"
>  xpointer="p1"
>  parse="xml"
>  xmlns:xi="http://www.w3.org/2001/XInclude"/>
> </a>
>
>
> b.xml:
> <b>
>  <p id="p1">aaaa</p>
>  <p id="p2">bbbb</p>
> </b>
>
> I have noticed a similar problem with our TEIms
files. Including an
> author list works fine, but as soon as I refer to a
special author with
> xpointer, Serna does not seem to react. Maybe I'm
missing some
> elementary point?
>
> Regards
>
> Hans-Peter Radenberg
>
>

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Wolfgang Keller | 18 Feb 22:04 2006
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[Serna] Version control system integration?

Hello,

is there any chance to see integration with version control systems such as 
Subversion or Perforce implemented in Serna anytime soon?

I would have thought that for concurrent editing of large documents this is a 
must, but apparently... Or did I miss something?

TIA,

Sincerely,

Wolfgang Keller


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