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George Cristian Bina | 1 Nov 2007 13:54
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Re: Plugin Failure at Startup When Used In Previous Editing Session

Hi Eliot,

The problem has been identified and fixed and the fix will go in the 9.0 
release.

Best Regards,
George
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Eliot Kimber wrote:
> On 10/31/07 10:47 AM, "George Cristian Bina" <george@...> wrote:
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>> Hi Eliot,
>>
>> Thanks for letting us know.
>> We were able to reproduce the problem with the sample custom protocol
>> plugin and we are investigating that - I expect to have a fix very soon,
>> later today or tomorrow.
>> In the meanwhile please close the file before closing oXygen to avoid
>> this problem.
> 
> Cool (that you'll be providing a fix). I'm coding against 8.2 at the moment.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> E.
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harvey | 1 Nov 2007 19:27

Vista Crash

My old XP system needed upgrading - basically because Oxygen was very
slow.  Yesterday I bought a new desktop computer with 3 Gigabytes of
memory and was looking forward to fast transformations |-)!

I installed Oxygen and everything looked great.  I tried running a
transformation that takes 2 seconds on my old XP with 512 megabytes
of memory and the transformation took 5 minutes.  I tried it again
and got a message saying to increate the "-Xmx" in Oxygen.bat.

I increased it from 256m to 512m then to 1g and am still having
the same problem.

I couldn't find any information on the archives.  Anyone have any
advice on solving this problem.

TIA!

Betty

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James Don | 1 Nov 2007 19:41
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Re: Vista Crash

Run your transform with saxon ... without oxygen ... this is not likely 
oxygen ... just a guess ...

harvey wrote:
> My old XP system needed upgrading - basically because Oxygen was very
> slow.  Yesterday I bought a new desktop computer with 3 Gigabytes of
> memory and was looking forward to fast transformations |-)!
>
> I installed Oxygen and everything looked great.  I tried running a
> transformation that takes 2 seconds on my old XP with 512 megabytes
> of memory and the transformation took 5 minutes.  I tried it again
> and got a message saying to increate the "-Xmx" in Oxygen.bat.
>
> I increased it from 256m to 512m then to 1g and am still having
> the same problem.
>
> I couldn't find any information on the archives.  Anyone have any
> advice on solving this problem.
>
> TIA!
>
> Betty
>
>
>
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harvey | 1 Nov 2007 21:28

Re: Vista Crash

Duh! Sometimes I forget to look at the obvious! I was having other
issues with Vista and didn't even think to look at the result file
because of the crashing.  I had made one change to the XSLT when
migrating from XP to Vista but it was enough to create a 77 MB file
and cause Oxygen to crash when trying to open it!

I really hate upgrading to new computers just because of the sheer
work getting programs installed and working.  Oxygen is one of my
favorite programs and it was one of the ones I was concerned about
but all is working fine!

Thsnks!

Betty

> Run your transform with saxon ... without oxygen ... this is not likely
> oxygen ... just a guess ...
>
> harvey wrote:
>> My old XP system needed upgrading - basically because Oxygen was very
>> slow.  Yesterday I bought a new desktop computer with 3 Gigabytes of
>> memory and was looking forward to fast transformations |-)!
>>
>> I installed Oxygen and everything looked great.  I tried running a
>> transformation that takes 2 seconds on my old XP with 512 megabytes
>> of memory and the transformation took 5 minutes.  I tried it again
>> and got a message saying to increate the "-Xmx" in Oxygen.bat.
>>
>> I increased it from 256m to 512m then to 1g and am still having
>> the same problem.
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Sorin Ristache | 2 Nov 2007 10:14
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Re: Vista Crash

Hello,

Generally you should not try to open files larger than 70 MB in oXygen. 
In such cases the total memory needed for the Java virtual machine may 
exceed the maximum limit allowed for Windows processes, that is 2 GB (if 
4 GB tuning is not enabled in Windows) which ends up with a crash of the 
JVM.

Regards,
Sorin

harvey wrote:
> I had made one change to the XSLT when
> migrating from XP to Vista but it was enough to create a 77 MB file
> and cause Oxygen to crash when trying to open it!
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Sorin Ristache | 2 Nov 2007 10:38
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Re: Vista Crash

One more remark: however files up to 2 GB in size can be opened in 
read-only mode in the Large File Viewer tool available from the Tools 
menu and also available as a standalone tool from the group of oXygen 
shortcuts on the Start menu.

Regards,
Sorin

Sorin Ristache wrote:
> Hello,
> 
> Generally you should not try to open files larger than 70 MB in oXygen. 
> In such cases the total memory needed for the Java virtual machine may 
> exceed the maximum limit allowed for Windows processes, that is 2 GB (if 
> 4 GB tuning is not enabled in Windows) which ends up with a crash of the 
> JVM.
> 
> 
> Regards,
> Sorin
> 
> 
> harvey wrote:
>> I had made one change to the XSLT when
>> migrating from XP to Vista but it was enough to create a 77 MB file
>> and cause Oxygen to crash when trying to open it!
> 
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Rodolfo M. Raya | 2 Nov 2007 10:58

Re: Vista Crash

On Fri, 2007-11-02 at 11:14 +0200, Sorin Ristache wrote:
Hello, Generally you should not try to open files larger than 70 MB in oXygen. In such cases the total memory needed for the Java virtual machine may exceed the maximum limit allowed for Windows processes, that is 2 GB (if 4 GB tuning is not enabled in Windows) which ends up with a crash of the JVM.

Hi Sorin,

I edit larger XML files (100~150MB) in a Java application that uses Xerces parser without memory problems. The maximum memory allowed parameter is set to almost 1GB (-Xmx999M). What parser does oXygen use?

Regards,
Rodolfo
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Sorin Ristache | 2 Nov 2007 11:13
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Re: Vista Crash

Hello Rodolfo,

The cause of the very large memory amount needed for opening large 
documents is the architecture of the Java Swing components needed for 
rendering a document in the syntax highlighted _text editor_. It is an 
inherent problem of the Swing architecture which has no connection with 
the parser.

Regards,
Sorin

Rodolfo M. Raya wrote:
> On Fri, 2007-11-02 at 11:14 +0200, Sorin Ristache wrote:
>> Hello,
>>
>> Generally you should not try to open files larger than 70 MB in oXygen. 
>> In such cases the total memory needed for the Java virtual machine may 
>> exceed the maximum limit allowed for Windows processes, that is 2 GB (if 
>> 4 GB tuning is not enabled in Windows) which ends up with a crash of the 
>> JVM.
> 
> Hi Sorin,
> 
> I edit larger XML files (100~150MB) in a Java application that uses 
> Xerces parser without memory problems. The maximum memory allowed 
> parameter is set to almost 1GB (-Xmx999M). What parser does oXygen use?
> 
> Regards,
> Rodolfo
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Rodolfo M. Raya | 2 Nov 2007 11:25

Re: Vista Crash

On Fri, 2007-11-02 at 12:13 +0200, Sorin Ristache wrote:
Hello Rodolfo, The cause of the very large memory amount needed for opening large documents is the architecture of the Java Swing components needed for rendering a document in the syntax highlighted _text editor_. It is an inherent problem of the Swing architecture which has no connection with the parser.

My app uses SWT, not Swing. That may explain the difference.

Rodolfo
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Eliot Kimber | 2 Nov 2007 20:50
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Re: Plugin Failure at Startup When Used In Previous Editing Session

On 11/1/07 7:54 AM, "George Cristian Bina" <george@...> wrote:

> Hi Eliot,
> 
> The problem has been identified and fixed and the fix will go in the 9.0
> release.

I have verified that the problem does not occur in the V9 released today.

Do all 8.2 owners get upgraded to 9 automatically?

If not then this bug would need to be fixed in 8.2 as well.

Cheers,

E.

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