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Richard Heck | 1 Oct 2007 05:38
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Re: Slowness Progress

Abdelrazak Younes wrote:
> One question, there is still something I don't understand in this 
> issue. In principle the X11 Clipboard should not be triggered if the 
> only thing you did was to select something in some other apps. The 
> only way this could happen is when this other app automatically put 
> the X11 selection in the X11 clipboard (which is bad). I've also read 
> somewhere that KDE do something like this at desktop level... do you 
> use KDE?
Yes. I just tried it quickly under XFCE, and it seemed better. But that 
was very quick.

The issue is definitely connected to the X11 clipboard, but there seem 
to be other issues, too. Sometimes I can make it happen, but not always.

I'll try the patch.

Richard

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Martin Vermeer | 1 Oct 2007 06:23
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Re: Bold button and others ...

On Sun, Sep 30, 2007 at 10:44:37PM +0200, Helge Hafting wrote:
> Bo Peng wrote:
> >>So if we ship LyX with built-in "emph" and "strong" charstyles, then
> >>the users wanting bold and italic gets what they want. And we
> >>still have the advantages of charstyles - a special document
> >>class can override "strong" to do a color trick, for example.
> >>    
> >
> >1. charstyle is more difficult to use than font change. For example,
> >if you have abcdef in a charstyle, and you want to change all or part
> >of them to normal style, several steps are needed. Toggle-bold etc are
> >much easier in this case. So, for simple cases, font-change is easier
> >and should be preferred.
> >  
> Nothing stops us from having toggles on our built-in
> charstyles.

Backspace at the starting position inside deletes the charstyle.

> >2. charstyles are not ready for 1.5.0. There is no default charstyle
> >defined anywhere, and there is no easy way to create one. Do you guys
> >really expect a normal user to hand-edit a .layout file?
> >  
> Not at all. Which is why I suggested that LyX ships with
> "strong" and "emph" charstyles predefined. _We_ can
> put those two into the .layouts we distribute so that
> the users won't have to! They will only need that
> hand-editing if they want _more_ charstyles.
> 
> My impression is that charstyles works in 1.5, there is just no
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Martin Vermeer | 1 Oct 2007 06:35
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Re: [PATCH] Making charstyle inset less prominent.

On Sun, Sep 30, 2007 at 08:08:25PM +0200, Jürgen Spitzmüller wrote:
> Martin Vermeer wrote:
> > For trunk, yes.
> 
> Even for branch, I think (I remember having implemented this some time ago).
> 
> Jürgen

Even for charstyles? They used to use a different open/close mechanism
(now fixed in trunk)

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Jürgen Spitzmüller | 1 Oct 2007 07:42
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Re: [PATCH] Making charstyle inset less prominent.

Martin Vermeer wrote:
> Even for charstyles? They used to use a different open/close mechanism
> (now fixed in trunk)

Yes, just checked again: all-insets-toggle works for charstyles in 1.5. Here's 
the change:
http://www.lyx.org/trac/changeset/

Jürgen
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Jürgen Spitzmüller | 1 Oct 2007 07:52
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Re: [PATCH] Return of the 'basic style' menu item and bold toolbar icon.

Bo Peng wrote:
> And lib/images/font-bold.png is there (and was surely used).

No. Have a look at what icons are there. We just provide these for people who 
want to customize their toolbars.

Jürgen
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Jürgen Spitzmüller | 1 Oct 2007 07:56
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Re: [PATCH] Return of the 'basic style' menu item and bold toolbar icon.

Jean-Marc Lasgouttes wrote:
> As juergen pointed out, this is something that dates back to LyX
> 1.4.0. We cannot add 'strong' support to 1.5 (format change). Bold is
> available through a couple of key bindings, which make it convenient
> for people who really need it (I use it a lot for bold maths). It is
> not easily discoverable for people who use bold infrequently, though.
>
> I am not sure the problem is urgent and important enough to deserve a
> fix before 1.6.

This is _my_ bottom line indeed. The thing (menu entries) were removed 3 years 
ago. I don't remember any complaint about this, except for Bo's. Sorry, Bo, 
this is not enough reasoning to change the ui in a minor release; you can 
customize your ui.

Jürgen
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Alex | 1 Oct 2007 08:01
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Re: Hungarian Tutorial request

Dear Uwe,

Thanks for reminding. Here, I send you the updated file.

Alex

PS. I resend my e-mail, since I had problems with my ISP

Uwe Stöhr írta:
> Hello Alex,
> 
> could you eventually translate section 5.2.2 of the Czech Tutorial.lyx
> (latest SVN 1.5.x branch version)?
> If you find some time to update the document as well, it would be helpful.
> 
> thanks and regards
> Uwe
>
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Jürgen Spitzmüller | 1 Oct 2007 07:57
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Re: [Cvslog] r20595 - /lyx-devel/trunk/src/insets/InsetBox.cpp

Uwe Stöhr wrote:
> As I said, the idea is to omit the optional argument when the default is
> given. Therefore it makes no difference when you set [1\height] or not.
> When the user don't want to use the optional argument, the default
> "1\height" is internally used and in this case the argument omitted. As I
> wrote in the comment above this source code, the Box GUI handles "special
> values" line \height, \columnwidth, etc. internally as "in". So to check if
> "1\height" was set, you check if the value is "1in" and the "special" flag
> is set. This behaviour is not my idea, that's how the box GUI already
> works.

Thanks for the explanations. I have to say that I do not like this.

Jürgen
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Alex | 1 Oct 2007 08:02
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Re: Translation Update for LyX 1.5.2

Dear Michael,

Here, I send you the hu.po update for the next release (1.5.2).

Alex

PS. I resend my e-mail, since I had problems with my ISP

Michael Gerz írta:
> Dear LyX translators,
> 
> we plan to release LyX 1.5.2 by the end of the week.
> Thus, it is a good idea to update the translations. For that purpose, I
> just re-merged the po files.
> 
> To get the latest version of the po file, click on your language name on
> the following page:
> 
>  http://www.lyx.org/devel/i18n.php
> 
> If you have any questions, feel free to ask the LyX team on the mailing
> list lyx-devel@...
> 
> Kind regards,
> 
> Michael
> 
>
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Jürgen Spitzmüller | 1 Oct 2007 08:13
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Re: Slowness Progress

Abdelrazak Younes wrote:
> And not even compiled... here is another one that compiles and seems to
> work fine.

This looks very sensible.
I asked the reporters on bugzilla for testing, to assure the this fixes the 
bug.

Jürgen
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