Shoshannah Forbes | 3 Oct 2005 18:18
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Hebrew UI broken on Windows?


After working for a while with AbiWord on Linux (and a little on OSX), I 
had to do some word on Windows, so I installed the stable version (2.2.10) 
there.
Since my copy of Windows (XP pro SP 2) has a Hebrew UI, I decided to go with 
the Hebrew UI in Abiword.

It seems however, that the UI is broken:

* althugh the UI is in Hebrew, it is still LTR and not RTL as exepected (unlike 
other Hebrew apps on Windows).
And the real problem- in all the menus, the last Hebrew character is missing 
(English items show the full word), which makes the Hebrew UI pretty unusable.
Here is a screenshot:
http://img213.imageshack.us/my.php?image=abiword2210hebrew4qs.png

Does anyone know if this is fixed with the dev builds? If so- how stable 
are they at the moment? 

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J.M. Maurer | 3 Oct 2005 22:24

ATTN: AbiWord 2.4.0 Released!


Dear AbiWord Enthusiasts

It finally arrived. I'd suggest you jump right to the Release Notes:

  http://www.abisource.com/release-notes/2.4.0.phtml

Bye!
  Marc

Mark Richardson | 5 Oct 2005 01:58
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Abi2.4.0: Maintaining Windows 9x


First a huge thank you to the developers for Abi 2.4.0.

Next: In a recent heated discussion on Planet Abisource, someone (Hubert  
Figuiere or Martin Sevior?) defended continuing to maintain Abiword for  
Windows 9x. The context was some glitches surviving in Abi 2.4. I for one  
want to thank the developers for spending great time and effort to  
continue supporting the older operating systems. There are lots of reasons  
for maintaining the support, practical but also philosophical: it helps in  
some small way to reduce Microsoft's power to coerce upgrades. If  
maintaning the older systems is a burden on the developers, resulting in  
some imperfections in the latest Abi release (though I've found it to be  
very solid so far), I want them to know that the effort is much  
appreciated, at least by me.

Again, thanks for the great work.

--Mark Richardson

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The Writing Program
University of Southern California
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r coyne | 5 Oct 2005 02:14
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Re: Abi2.4.0: Maintaining Windows 9x


> 
> Next: In a recent heated discussion on Planet
> Abisource, someone (Hubert  
> Figuiere or Martin Sevior?) defended continuing to
> maintain Abiword for  
> Windows 9x. The context was some glitches surviving
> in Abi 2.4. I for one  
> want to thank the developers for spending great time
> and effort to  
> continue supporting the older operating systems.
> There are lots of reasons  
> for maintaining the support, practical but also
> philosophical: it helps in  
> some small way to reduce Microsoft's power to coerce
> upgrades. If  
> maintaning the older systems is a burden on the
> developers, resulting in  
> some imperfections in the latest Abi release (though
> I've found it to be  
> very solid so far), I want them to know that the
> effort is much  
> appreciated, at least by me.
> 

I second the motion.  I still use NT, and am ever more
annoyed at the way people don't even mention it any
more, so that I have no idea what will or won't work
on it except by trying.  Some of the problem is herd
mentality:  People are simply following MS's lead,
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Barry Wong | 5 Oct 2005 04:27

Newbie questions


[Tried to send this a couple of days ago, but never saw it posted to  
the list and never got a reply, so I thought I'd try again.]

Hi --

Just downloaded AbiWord 2.2.10 for Mac OS X (10.4) from SourceForge.  
The program starts fine and a number of plugins appear to be  
installed (9 all together, including HTML, WordPerfect, and OpenOffice).

But I am surprised that I can't open Word files. It doesn't work when  
I drag a Word file to the AbiWord icon, nor does it work from within  
the app using File -> Open. When I open a file, all I get is a blank  
document (as if I can tried to create a new document). The Word files  
were written with the Mac version of MS Word 2001 under Mac System 9.1.

I have read in more than one place that the program will import Word  
files (which makes a lot of sense), but I must be doing something  
wrong. Can anyone help?

FWIW, I seem to be able to save in Word format, and those files open  
fine with Word.

Finally, I did download AbiWord 2.4, but found it somewhat unstable  
on the Mac, so I switched back to 2.2.10. Has anyone else found this  
to be the case?

Barry Wong, bwong <at> stanfordalumni.org
International Student Ministry
McGill and Concordia Universities
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Michael A. Peters | 5 Oct 2005 08:10
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Re: Newbie questions


On Tue, 2005-10-04 at 22:27 -0400, Barry Wong wrote:

> 
> I have read in more than one place that the program will import Word  
> files (which makes a lot of sense), but I must be doing something  
> wrong. Can anyone help?

I can't help, but I don't think it is something wrong that you are
doing.
It should *just work* (does on Linux, mostly - some weird word files
aren't imported correctly but I really have to try hard to find one now
- stuff people send me just tends to work)

Might I suggest you try the new 2.4.0?
Does it have an OS X build yet?

> 
> FWIW, I seem to be able to save in Word format, and those files open  
> fine with Word.

When AbiWord saves to word format, what it actually is doing (unless
they have changed it) is creating an rtf file and just putting a .doc
extension on it.

> 
> Finally, I did download AbiWord 2.4, but found it somewhat unstable  
> on the Mac, so I switched back to 2.2.10. Has anyone else found this  
> to be the case?

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Alan Horkan | 5 Oct 2005 14:11
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Re: Newbie questions


On Tue, 4 Oct 2005, Michael A. Peters wrote:

> Date: Tue, 04 Oct 2005 23:10:43 -0700
> From: Michael A. Peters <mpeters <at> mac.com>
> To: Barry Wong <bwong <at> stanfordalumni.org>
> Cc: abiword-user <at> abisource.com
> Subject: Re: Newbie questions
>
>
> On Tue, 2005-10-04 at 22:27 -0400, Barry Wong wrote:
>
> >
> > I have read in more than one place that the program will import Word
> > files (which makes a lot of sense), but I must be doing something
> > wrong. Can anyone help?
>
> I can't help, but I don't think it is something wrong that you are
> doing.

I cannot help but think the opposite.  Believe it or not you may be the
first person to have tested abiword against this specific version and
configuration of Microsoft Word.  I'm interested to read "I must be doing
something wrong" but chances are there is something we could improve with
your help.

It would be a big help if you could create an account for yourself in
Bugzilla our bug tracking system and attach a sample document so that we
can test and try to isolate the problem.  Hopefully we will be able to see
if the files you are having trouble with can be opened using the Linux
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Alan Horkan | 5 Oct 2005 14:29
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Re: Abi2.4.0: Maintaining Windows 9x


On Tue, 4 Oct 2005, Mark Richardson wrote:

> Date: Tue, 04 Oct 2005 16:58:22 -0700
> From: Mark Richardson <mrichard <at> usc.edu>
> To: abiword-user <at> abisource.com
> Subject: Abi2.4.0: Maintaining Windows 9x
>
>
> First a huge thank you to the developers for Abi 2.4.0.
>
> Next: In a recent heated discussion on Planet Abisource, someone (Hubert
> Figuiere or Martin Sevior?)

Presumably you are referring to the journal of Martin Sevior
http://www.livejournal.com/users/msevior/6157.html

http://www.livejournal.com/users/msevior/6157.html?thread=35341#t35341
Hubert addresses the issue of maintaining support for Windows 9X

> defended continuing to maintain Abiword for Windows 9x.

There are known issues and there are various people interested in
continuing support for older operating systems but it comes down to how
many people are willing to get invovled and help directly with the work.

Abiword is a community of volunteers and you can get involved and help
out.  Abiword is not a crack commando unit sent to prison for a crime they
didn't commit, who escaped from a maximum security stockade to the Los
Angeles underground, surviving as soldiers of fortune. If you have a
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Keith Powell | 5 Oct 2005 14:44
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Column typing.


Am I asking too much of Abiword 2.3.99?

I would like to make up a two column document. First of all doing some typing 
in column one, then some in column two, then back to column one, then to 
column two, and so on. The start of each block of typing needs to line up 
with the block in the other column.

For example:

First block of typing I do is in 		Second bloc is in column two
column one

Third block is in column one			Fourth block is in column two

I can't find a way of doing this. The only column facility I can find is to 
keep typing until the first column is full and then the text carries on into 
column two. Which I don't want. Creating two columns by tabbing, is a 
non-starter as it plays havoc if the text in one of the columns has to be 
altered!

If someone could either tell me how to do it, or tell me that it can't be 
done, I would be very grateful. Perhaps it needs a publishing program to 
accomplish this?

Congratulations on Abiword. The hard work is paying off and it is a really 
excellent word processor.

Cheers

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Alan Horkan | 5 Oct 2005 14:48
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Re: Abi2.4.0: Maintaining Windows 9x


On Tue, 4 Oct 2005, r coyne wrote:

> Date: Tue, 4 Oct 2005 17:14:47 -0700 (PDT)
> From: r coyne <duckingsnofair <at> yahoo.com>
> To: abiword-user <at> abisource.com
> Subject: Re: Abi2.4.0: Maintaining Windows 9x
>
>
>
> >
> > Next: In a recent heated discussion on Planet
> > Abisource, someone (Hubert
> > Figuiere or Martin Sevior?) defended continuing to
> > maintain Abiword for
> > Windows 9x. The context was some glitches surviving
> > in Abi 2.4. I for one
> > want to thank the developers for spending great time
> > and effort to
> > continue supporting the older operating systems.
> > There are lots of reasons
> > for maintaining the support, practical but also
> > philosophical: it helps in
> > some small way to reduce Microsoft's power to coerce
> > upgrades. If
> > maintaning the older systems is a burden on the
> > developers, resulting in
> > some imperfections in the latest Abi release (though
> > I've found it to be
> > very solid so far), I want them to know that the
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