3 Jun 2012 04:36
3 Jun 2012 09:01
Re: gmane.linux.kernel.tracing.lttng.devel looks stale.
John Steele Scott <toojays <at> toojays.net>
2012-06-03 07:01:17 GMT
2012-06-03 07:01:17 GMT
On 25/05/12 16:49, Wolfgang Schnerring wrote: > * John Steele Scott <toojays <at> toojays.net> [2012-05-14 05:10]: >> gmane.linux.kernel.tracing.lttng.devel is missing a bunch of posts. It >> looks like the list has moved from ltt-dev <at> lists.casi.polymtl.ca to >> lttng-dev <at> lists.lttng.org, maybe that's why gmane is out of date? > > Updated, thanks! (It will take a while for the updated information to be visible > on the web interface.) > > Wolfgang Should messages be coming through via NNTP at least now? Looking at http://lists.lttng.org/pipermail/lttng-dev/2012-June/thread.html, there have obviously been messages to the list since you corrected this, but gmane.linux.kernel.tracing.lttng.devel doesn't show anything newer than the 14th of May. cheers, John
3 Jun 2012 09:45
Re: gmane.linux.kernel.tracing.lttng.devel looks stale.
Wolfgang Schnerring <wosc+gmane <at> wosc.de>
2012-06-03 07:45:46 GMT
2012-06-03 07:45:46 GMT
* John Steele Scott <toojays <at> toojays.net> [2012-06-03 09:01]: > On 25/05/12 16:49, Wolfgang Schnerring wrote: >> * John Steele Scott <toojays <at> toojays.net> [2012-05-14 05:10]: >>> gmane.linux.kernel.tracing.lttng.devel is missing a bunch of posts. It >>> looks like the list has moved from ltt-dev <at> lists.casi.polymtl.ca to >>> lttng-dev <at> lists.lttng.org, maybe that's why gmane is out of date? > > Should messages be coming through via NNTP at least now? > > Looking at > http://lists.lttng.org/pipermail/lttng-dev/2012-June/thread.html, > there have obviously been messages to the list since you corrected > this, but gmane.linux.kernel.tracing.lttng.devel doesn't show anything > newer than the 14th of May. Humm. I'm confused now, because there are two groups on Gmane: gmane.linux.kernel.tracing lttng-dev <at> lists.lttng.org gmane.linux.kernel.tracing.lttng.devel ltt-dev <at> lists.casi.polymtl.ca Do you know what's going on there? Is one of them superfluous? Wolfgang -- -- Gmane -- Mail To News And Back Again: http://gmane.org
3 Jun 2012 10:01
Re: obfuscated email addresses from gmane, can Gnus be taught to handle them gracefully?
Duncan <1i5t5.duncan <at> cox.net>
2012-06-03 08:01:51 GMT
2012-06-03 08:01:51 GMT
Leo posted on Sun, 03 Jun 2012 10:36:28 +0800 as excerpted: > As the subject suggests. > > can gnus show gmane obfuscated email address such as > <joseph.wright <at> MORNINGSTAR2.CO.UK> in its original human-readable form? That looks unobfuscated to me. =:^) I don't have a direct answer to your question, someone using gnus probably does, but FWIW... The obfuscation flag is per group/list. The default is obfuscation, but if requested when the group is created, it can be turned off. (It can also be turned off for a group on request of the list admin, later, altho I don't believe that changes the archived messages.) It's worth noting that those obfuscated addresses *ARE* actually valid. They go thru gmane, which runs (I think) spam-assassin on them, then forwards them to the original address. Thus, it's actually possible to hand someone the obfuscated address if you don't trust them with your real address (but either don't care or do trust gmane not to pry too much into what it forwards, since it obviously has access to it for forwarding), and actually get the mail, as long as it doesn't get filtered by spam-assassin. You can check the information above against what's on the web site, but obviously they aren't going to post the unobfuscation algorithm there, and the above is the gist of it. I'd be surprised if they post the algo in the open here as well, but you might get a private reply, or they(Continue reading)
3 Jun 2012 12:46
Re: gmane.linux.kernel.tracing.lttng.devel looks stale.
John Steele Scott <toojays <at> toojays.net>
2012-06-03 10:46:55 GMT
2012-06-03 10:46:55 GMT
Sorry if you get this twice, my newsreader gave me an error when trying to post this to gmane.discuss, so adding Wolfgang and the list explicitly. On 03/06/12 20:14, John Steele Scott wrote: > On 03/06/12 17:15, Wolfgang Schnerring wrote: >> * John Steele Scott <toojays <at> toojays.net> [2012-06-03 09:01]: >>> On 25/05/12 16:49, Wolfgang Schnerring wrote: >>>> * John Steele Scott <toojays <at> toojays.net> [2012-05-14 05:10]: >>>>> gmane.linux.kernel.tracing.lttng.devel is missing a bunch of posts. It >>>>> looks like the list has moved from ltt-dev <at> lists.casi.polymtl.ca to >>>>> lttng-dev <at> lists.lttng.org, maybe that's why gmane is out of date? >>> Should messages be coming through via NNTP at least now? >>> >>> Looking at >>> http://lists.lttng.org/pipermail/lttng-dev/2012-June/thread.html, >>> there have obviously been messages to the list since you corrected >>> this, but gmane.linux.kernel.tracing.lttng.devel doesn't show anything >>> newer than the 14th of May. >> Humm. I'm confused now, because there are two groups on Gmane: >> >> gmane.linux.kernel.tracing lttng-dev <at> lists.lttng.org >> gmane.linux.kernel.tracing.lttng.devel ltt-dev <at> lists.casi.polymtl.ca >> >> Do you know what's going on there? Is one of them superfluous? > Wolfgang, > > I don't know. I was not aware that gmane.linux.kernel.tracing existed. I have only recently started following the lttng project. > > Adding Mathieu Desnoyers, who is the lttng maintainer.(Continue reading)
3 Jun 2012 23:51
Re: gmane.linux.kernel.tracing.lttng.devel looks stale.
Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers <at> efficios.com>
2012-06-03 21:51:35 GMT
2012-06-03 21:51:35 GMT
* John Steele Scott (toojays <at> toojays.net) wrote: [...] > On 03/06/12 20:14, John Steele Scott wrote: > > On 03/06/12 17:15, Wolfgang Schnerring wrote: > >> * John Steele Scott <toojays <at> toojays.net> [2012-06-03 09:01]: > >>> On 25/05/12 16:49, Wolfgang Schnerring wrote: > >>>> * John Steele Scott <toojays <at> toojays.net> [2012-05-14 05:10]: > >>>>> gmane.linux.kernel.tracing.lttng.devel is missing a bunch of posts. It > >>>>> looks like the list has moved from ltt-dev <at> lists.casi.polymtl.ca to > >>>>> lttng-dev <at> lists.lttng.org, maybe that's why gmane is out of date? > >>> Should messages be coming through via NNTP at least now? > >>> > >>> Looking at > >>> http://lists.lttng.org/pipermail/lttng-dev/2012-June/thread.html, > >>> there have obviously been messages to the list since you corrected > >>> this, but gmane.linux.kernel.tracing.lttng.devel doesn't show anything > >>> newer than the 14th of May. > >> Humm. I'm confused now, because there are two groups on Gmane: > >> > >> gmane.linux.kernel.tracing lttng-dev <at> lists.lttng.org > >> gmane.linux.kernel.tracing.lttng.devel ltt-dev <at> lists.casi.polymtl.ca > >> > >> Do you know what's going on there? Is one of them superfluous? > > Wolfgang, > > > > I don't know. I was not aware that gmane.linux.kernel.tracing > > existed. I have only recently started following the lttng project. > > > > Adding Mathieu Desnoyers, who is the lttng maintainer. > >(Continue reading)
4 Jun 2012 06:35
Re: obfuscated email addresses from gmane, can Gnus be taught to handle them gracefully?
Wolfgang Schnerring <wosc+gmane <at> wosc.de>
2012-06-04 04:35:16 GMT
2012-06-04 04:35:16 GMT
* Duncan <1i5t5.duncan <at> cox.net> [2012-06-03 10:01]: > Leo posted on Sun, 03 Jun 2012 10:36:28 +0800 as excerpted: >> can gnus show gmane obfuscated email address such as >> <joseph.wright <at> MORNINGSTAR2.CO.UK> in its original human-readable form? > > That looks unobfuscated to me. =:^) I /think/ email addresses are only obfuscated for the web access, not NNTP access. Wolfgang -- -- Gmane -- Mail To News And Back Again: http://gmane.org
4 Jun 2012 06:43
Re: gmane.linux.kernel.tracing.lttng.devel looks stale.
Wolfgang Schnerring <wosc+gmane <at> wosc.de>
2012-06-04 04:43:00 GMT
2012-06-04 04:43:00 GMT
* Mathieu Desnoyers <mathieu.desnoyers <at> efficios.com> [2012-06-03 23:51]: >> >>> On 25/05/12 16:49, Wolfgang Schnerring wrote: >> >> gmane.linux.kernel.tracing lttng-dev <at> lists.lttng.org >> >> gmane.linux.kernel.tracing.lttng.devel ltt-dev <at> lists.casi.polymtl.ca >> >> >> >> Do you know what's going on there? Is one of them superfluous? >> > >> > 1) Request to setup a new gmane group gmane.os.tracing.lttng.devel, >> > for the list at lttng-dev <at> lists.lttng.org, and import the list >> > archive. > > Yes, since it's now covering user-space tracing of FreeBSD, and soon > Cygwin, and that userspace-rcu is relevant for Linux, Android, FreeBSD, > NetBSD, Darwin, OpenBSD, it looks like it's not only Linux-specific > anymore ;) It sounds like a good idea. Hmm, that group name doesn't really fit the Gmane naming conventions, gmane.os.* is for respective operating systems. If you don't want to keep gmane.linux.kernel.tracing.devel, I'd suggest gmane.comp.sysutils.lttng.devel >> > 2) Post to the existing two gmane lists, referring readers to the new group. That won't be possible, but I'll mark the two previous groups as discontinued. Wolfgang -- -- Gmane -- Mail To News And Back Again: http://gmane.org(Continue reading)
4 Jun 2012 07:27
Re: Most messages can't be fetched via NNTP
Thufir <hawat.thufir <at> gmail.com>
2012-06-04 05:27:53 GMT
2012-06-04 05:27:53 GMT
On Thu, 24 May 2012 21:36:42 +0200, Yannick Duchêne (Hibou57) wrote: > My Usenet client, is the one embedded with Opera browser (Opera 12). It > asked me if I would like to retrieve only the last 250 messages or else > all of the about 8500 messages. I said all. LOL. Don't do that. For what it's worth, you might want to look into http:// leafnode.sourceforge.net/ to cache various usenet or nntp groups from different servers. -Thufir
4 Jun 2012 12:54
Re: obfuscated email addresses from gmane, can Gnus be taught to handle them gracefully?
Leo <sdl.web <at> gmail.com>
2012-06-04 10:54:22 GMT
2012-06-04 10:54:22 GMT
On 2012-06-04 12:35 +0800, Wolfgang Schnerring wrote: > I /think/ email addresses are only obfuscated for the web access, not > NNTP access. Unfortunately, no. Leo
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