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Frank Ellermann | 1 Mar 2008 13:08
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Re: How to set HTML/Plain Text

Greg Chapman wrote:

> (providing, of course, that have changed the default "Fully
> Featured" setting to what Yahoo calls "Traditional")

Thanks for info, I didn't know this, hm, Yahoo! "feature" ;-)
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jidanni | 1 Mar 2008 23:18
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Re: Missing articles in web interface

PR> Why is this article:
PR> http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.comp.version-control.subversion.announce/243
PR> missing in the web interface:
PR> http://news.gmane.org/gmane.comp.version-control.subversion.announce
Because the web interface can't deal with crosspostings like I also
keep saying over and over here with no attention from management.
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Bruno Harbulot | 4 Mar 2008 11:38
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Problem with snews

Hello,

When I'm trying to connect to snews.gmane.org, Thunderbird closes the 
connection and displays 'snews.gmane.org received a message with 
incorrect Message Authentication Code. [...]'. Similarly, OpenSSL gives 
an handshake failure:

$ openssl s_client -host snews.gmane.org -port 563
CONNECTED(00000003)
depth=0 
/C=NO/ST=Norway/L=Oslo/O=Gmane/CN=snews.gmane.org/emailAddress=postmaster <at> gmane.org
verify error:num=18:self signed certificate
verify return:1
depth=0 
/C=NO/ST=Norway/L=Oslo/O=Gmane/CN=snews.gmane.org/emailAddress=postmaster <at> gmane.org
verify return:1
3311:error:140943FC:SSL routines:SSL3_READ_BYTES:sslv3 alert bad record 
mac:s3_pkt.c:1053:SSL alert number 20
3311:error:140790E5:SSL routines:SSL23_WRITE:ssl handshake 
failure:s23_lib.c:188:

I'm not sure if it's just me. Any idea how to fix this?

Best wishes,

Bruno.
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Adam Sjøgren | 4 Mar 2008 20:18
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Re: Problem with snews

On Tue, 04 Mar 2008 10:38:32 +0000, Bruno wrote:

> I'm not sure if it's just me. Any idea how to fix this?

Ask Lars to restart the tunnel.

  Best regards,

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Sebastian Krause | 6 Mar 2008 03:02

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Hello!

Since I personally find the encryption of email addresses quite
annoying, it bothers me that it's enabled by default on
<http://gmane.org/subscribe.php>. So when I handle the subscription
requests I don't know if the list admin or subscriber really wants
encryption or just forgot to unset it on the subscription page. I
think it should be unset by default and only be used when really
wanted.

Sebastian
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Romain Francoise | 6 Mar 2008 08:39
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Sebastian Krause <sebastian <at> realpath.org> writes:

> I think it should be unset by default and only be used when really
> wanted.

+1
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Torsten Bronger | 6 Mar 2008 08:47
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Hallöchen!

Sebastian Krause writes:

> Since I personally find the encryption of email addresses quite
> annoying, it bothers me that it's enabled by default on
> <http://gmane.org/subscribe.php>. So when I handle the subscription
> requests I don't know if the list admin or subscriber really wants
> encryption or just forgot to unset it on the subscription page. I
> think it should be unset by default and only be used when really
> wanted.

+0 from me.

On a related issue, I suggest to apply similar "valid group name"
heuristics to the subscription page as the ones being used in
gmane.el.  While I understand that many people don't know which list
software is used, all should be able to suggest a quite good group
name that needs to be modified only slightly, if at all.

Tschö,
Torsten.

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Frank Ellermann | 6 Mar 2008 10:37
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Sebastian Krause wrote:

> I think it should be unset by default

+1
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Duncan | 6 Mar 2008 11:40
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"Frank Ellermann" <nobody <at> xyzzy.claranet.de> posted
fqodrt$n2p$1 <at> ger.gmane.org, excerpted below, on  Thu, 06 Mar 2008 10:37:14
+0100:

> Sebastian Krause wrote:
> 
>> I think it should be unset by default
> 
> +1

-1 here.

While there are certainly times I'd prefer unencrypted email in the 
groups I use that encrypt it, IMO if gmane makes that the default, it's 
likely to attract abuse... and ultimately damage gmane's reputation.  
Additionally, it'd be much easier for a list admin to decide they'd 
rather not be on gmane.  The existing default makes it MUCH harder to use 
the "gmane's leaking addresses to the spammers" excuse.

IOW, while having the unencrypted email addresses is nice, I'd a whole 
lot have the lists available on gmane with encrypted addresses, then not 
available, and I believe if the default changes, it'll ultimately cause 
rather more list admins to say "No, gmane may not carry my list", 
regardless.  I don't want that to happen, so I in turn prefer the default 
to stay at encrypted addresses.

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Frank Ellermann | 6 Mar 2008 20:53
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Duncan wrote:

> I believe if the default changes, it'll ultimately cause rather
> more list admins to say "No, gmane may not carry my list",

It's no big deal to uncheck the horrible encryption option in a
subscription request, but of course that only works if I'm first
to propose a list.  And I'm often interested in lists where
discussing mail and news headers is the topic.

IMO lists not available on GMaNe are by definition irrelevant ;-)

 Frank
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