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Steinar Bang | 1 May 2006 14:12
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permalink result from search?

Is there a chance to get permalink instead of article from the search
results?

Looking at some search results, I'm guessing this means "no"...? :-)
	http://article.gmane.org/gmane.discuss/9051
	nntp://news.gmane.org/gmane.discuss/9051

Alternatively, is it possible to get a permalink link on the classic
article view?  Editing the URL is _so_ 90-ies!
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Olly Betts | 1 May 2006 14:22
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Re: permalink result from search?

On 2006-05-01, Steinar Bang <sb <at> dod.no> wrote:
> Is there a chance to get permalink instead of article from the search
> results?
>
> Looking at some search results, I'm guessing this means "no"...? :-)
> 	http://article.gmane.org/gmane.discuss/9051
> 	nntp://news.gmane.org/gmane.discuss/9051

While it's true that I hate the permalink view myself, I realise others
might like it.

I did actually have a quick look at this a while back, but permalink
doesn't seem to currently support highlighting words (the
"match=foo+bar" suffix), which makes it a lot less useful for search
results.

> Alternatively, is it possible to get a permalink link on the classic
> article view?  Editing the URL is _so_ 90-ies!

I pointed this out about a month ago - here's Lars reply:

http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.discuss/9471/focus=9476

| > In a similar vein, you can switch to the "classic" interface from
| > permalink, comments, and blog views, but not vice versa 
| 
| Yup.  I just didn't see any place to put those links without
| cluttering things up...

Cheers,
(Continue reading)

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Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen | 1 May 2006 14:21
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Re: mozilla.project-owners rename

Matt Seitz <mseitz <at> yahoo.com> writes:

> I suggest renaming the group to either
> "gmane.comp.mozdev.project-owners" or
> "gmane.comp.mozilla.mozdev.project-owners".

Group renaming is impossible in Gmane due to the backing storage being
used.

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Olly Betts | 1 May 2006 14:35
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Re: permalink result from search?

On 2006-05-01, Steinar Bang <sb <at> dod.no> wrote:
> Alternatively, is it possible to get a permalink link on the classic
> article view?  Editing the URL is _so_ 90-ies!

Another way to address this would be the idea I posted here:

http://thread.gmane.org/gmane.discuss/8662/focus=8665

Essentially users could specify a preferred view, stored in a cookie,
and then Gmane would then always redirect them to that view from the
other.

I think this addresses what I dislike most about the permalink
view - one of gmane's strengths is to present a uniform interface to
a large number of mailing lists (both on the web, and by allowing them
to be read in a newsreader just like usenet groups).

So it's especially annoying to have two very different web interfaces to
gmane (since external links might take you to either one).  I don't want
to have to deal with two interfaces, and given the choice, my preference
is for the classic version.

Cheers,
    Olly
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Raymond Scholz | 1 May 2006 16:54
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Re: mozilla.project-owners rename

· Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org> wrote:

> Group renaming is impossible in Gmane due to the backing storage being
> used.

Either finish implementing this ridicule thingie or do the traditional
May 1st release of Gnus!  Now! :-)

Cheers, Ray
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Steinar Bang | 1 May 2006 16:59
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Re: mozilla.project-owners rename

>>>>> Raymond Scholz <ray-2006 <at> zonix.de>:

> · Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen <larsi <at> gnus.org> wrote:
>> Group renaming is impossible in Gmane due to the backing storage being
>> used.

> Either finish implementing this ridicule thingie or do the traditional
> May 1st release of Gnus!  Now! :-)

Yes!
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Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen | 1 May 2006 17:13
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Re: mozilla.project-owners rename

Raymond Scholz <ray-2006 <at> zonix.de> writes:

> Either finish implementing this ridicule thingie or do the traditional
> May 1st release of Gnus!  Now! :-)

Amazingly enough I did the May 1st release before reading this.

Spooky.  :-)

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Steinar Bang | 1 May 2006 17:53
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Approving thread head as spam kills the rest of the thread

Approving a thread head as spam seems to be killing the rest of the
thread, at least in the web interfaces.  Here's an example
	http://dir.gmane.org/gmane.comp.sysutils.backup.fsvs.general

(I posted an introductory message, discovered that the group name in
the message I had posted was wrong, and posted a corrected version as
a followup to the original message.  Then I discovered that at least
in the blog view, this meant the corrected message was hidden.  So I
reported my first message as spam, and then approved it... and then
both went away)
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Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen | 1 May 2006 19:03
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Re: permalink result from search?

Olly Betts <olly <at> survex.com> writes:

> Essentially users could specify a preferred view, stored in a cookie,
> and then Gmane would then always redirect them to that view from the
> other.

I'm not against the cookie idea, although I do have some concerns.
Presenting very different pages to people based on cookies has a
tendency to confuse people.  "Look at this.  See how X does Y?"  "Say
what?  There's no X there."

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Lars Magne Ingebrigtsen | 1 May 2006 19:21
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Re: Approving thread head as spam kills the rest of the thread

Steinar Bang <sb <at> dod.no> writes:

> Approving a thread head as spam seems to be killing the rest of the
> thread, at least in the web interfaces.

Indeed.  I just tried the same in gmane.test.  I'll try to hunt down
the bug in weaverd.

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